Poll: What Did You Think of Sony's PS4 Event?

[yamy]

Went with C. I'm happy with everything I saw (bar the social aspect of the console, which I never bothered with), but the majority of things here is a case of evolution rather than revolution. Its nice, but not unexpected. Some of the stuff (like the 8GB unified memory) were long due fixes to the PS3.

Whist the demos of the games looked graphically impressive, we have to remember that this level of graphical detail had been available to PCs for some time already. For the past few years PC games had been held back graphically by increasingly outdated consoles; it had only taken till now for developers to bother to make use of that power

Only thing about the PS4 that I was impressed with was the sleep and resume function, which isn't available on any other gaming platform. The promise for instantaneous gaming with reduced waiting time sounds good but again I'm wondering how much of an improvement its going to be. Consoles may get faster but my internet connection doesn't...

 

[mirage202]

Not much to be excited about.

They tell us the next gen is basically a current mid-range PC, ramble on too long about social features and then show off the usual safe bet franchise games.

May change my mind in the coming months when those 3rd party devs show off their stuff (hopefully something new in there) but until that point, meh.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

the reveal itself was rather underwhelming. Can't really say the graphical leap was all that big, but it's about what I expected. Sony also just let the event drag, probably be being at least a half hour too long.

Not that big of a graphical leap forward? They are practically jumping forward 9 graphics card generations, moving to six core from single, and adding 8 gigs of standalone memory, thus quadrupling the amount of RAM compared to the PS3. This thing is going to scream.

Can they back it up with good titles? Well, that we will probably have to wait until E3 to see.

I am going by what I saw with my eyes and this is what I conclude: the leap to the PS4 was NOT as big as the leap was to the PS3. That's the truth of the matter, mostly because of graphics reaching a plateau (and thank merciful BUDDHA for that). Plus it's obvious that not ALL of that RAM is going to be used for the games with all those background features taking up estate.

 

[soren7550]

I give it a G because I didn't watch it, but rather just heard a few things about it, most of which I don't care for.

And a console reveal without an actual console to reveal? Weak.

 

[martyrdrebel27]

ugh, you lost me at integrated motion control and built in touchpad. that tiny touchpad is going to be an afterthought in games that even choose to utilize it. i just cant imagine reaching over to the touchpad being in anyway more functional than just using the d-pad. mtion gaming is a dying fad that only microsoft has KINDA made cool. this just reaffirmed that if microsoft can manage some regular fan service, they'll win the next generation. (again. boom.)

 

[Weaver]

Can we talk about just what in the hell was happening in the Media Molecule presentation?

 

[mokes310]

Does it play used games? Everything else is ancillary.

 

[MrHide-Patten]

New inFAMOUS game... who wants a kidney's, I've got kidneys?!

 

[darthzew]

I'm thoroughly underwhelmed, to be honest. It just doesn't have the same leap there was from PS2 to PS3. Maybe we'll learn more as time goes on, but for now, I'm kinda meh.

 

[Nocturnus]

the reveal itself was rather underwhelming. Can't really say the graphical leap was all that big, but it's about what I expected. Sony also just let the event drag, probably be being at least a half hour too long.

Not that big of a graphical leap forward? They are practically jumping forward 9 graphics card generations, moving to six core from single, and adding 8 gigs of standalone memory, thus quadrupling the amount of RAM compared to the PS3. This thing is going to scream.

Can they back it up with good titles? Well, that we will probably have to wait until E3 to see.

I am going by what I saw with my eyes and this is what I conclude: the leap to the PS4 was NOT as big as the leap was to the PS3. That's the truth of the matter, mostly because of graphics reaching a plateau (and thank merciful BUDDHA for that). Plus it's obvious that not ALL of that RAM is going to be used for the games with all those background features taking up estate.

That's because they were demonstrating current gen games.

The Playstation 3 is using the equivalent of a 7 Series GeForce Card, a Single Core Processor, and 256 MB System Memory with 256 MB of Graphics Memory.

The Playstation 4? Is using the equivalency of a mid-range 6 series GeForce (like the GeForce 660) (Yes... that's 9 full graphics processors ahead of its predecessor), a Six Core processor that is leaps and bounds faster than the PS3, and 8 Gigs of Physical System Memory.

The difference is HUGE, and they didn't do a very good job of demonstrating how good games can look on a system like that, and how fluid those good looking games can possibly run. And all that crammed into a package that is likely to sell for less than 500 bucks.

And I wouldn't be so sure about the console's background processes. Windows, for example, when idle runs at 1 gig of system memory, and consoles have historically used less, because really all they do is play games. Even with an app that ties to say... Facebook, if it isn't plugged into an operating system like Windows (which it won't be), it won't use more than one hundred megabytes of system memory.

Considering that they're planning on putting an engine like Unreal 4 on the thing... which is an AMAZING engine... that's going to take a lot of processing power,and this system looks ready to handle it. Which is awesome at the price point.

 

[The Eupho Guy_v1legacy]

I give it a B. There are some interesting features and the specs at a casual glace look nice... But I wont be rushing out and grabbing it at launch, unless the launch lineup is some kind of amazing.

 

[octafish]

Meh in general. Cryengine demos from seven years ago that console fanboys said weren't impressive. Whoopee the console can play prerendered video. Ho hum...wait is that a new SIN episode...yuck!

I was surprised at 8gb of RAM I thought the console would only get 4gb. That is good, but I see crapware in Sony's future that will waste that potential.

The big news is that all of this comes from AMD and their crappy not eight proccessing unit eight core design APU that no-one wants to program for. Now they will, and a lot of them too. That should make AMD a little more relevant to PC gaming in general. I was worried the Intel was going to get it all their own way and that wouldn't have been good for PC gaming at all. Competition is always good.

Now can we please move out of the corridors and small levels please?

 

[Nocturnus]

The big news is that all of this comes from AMD and their crappy not eight proccessing unit eight core design APU that no-one wants to program for. Now they will, and a lot of them too. That should make AMD a little more relevant to PC gaming in general. I was worried the Intel was going to get it all their own way and that wouldn't have been good for PC gaming at all. Competition is always good.

Likely because of cost. AMD Chips are a lot cheaper than Intel, even though they don't pack as much processing power as some of the later Intel i series chipsets.

I doubt they want a repeat of the launch of the PS3... too expensive out the gate, which shot themselves in the foot.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

That's because they were demonstrating current gen games.

The Playstation 3 is using the equivalent of a 7 Series GeForce Card, a Single Core Processor, and 256 MB System Memory with 256 MB of Graphics Memory.

The Playstation 4? Is using the equivalency of a mid-range 6 series GeForce (like the GeForce 660) (Yes... that's 9 full graphics processors ahead of its predecessor), a Six Core processor that is leaps and bounds faster than the PS3, and 8 Gigs of Physical System Memory.

The difference is HUGE, and they didn't do a very good job of demonstrating how good games can look on a system like that, and how fluid those good looking games can possibly run. And all that crammed into a package that is likely to sell for less than 500 bucks.

And I wouldn't be so sure about the console's background processes. Windows, for example, when idle runs at 1 gig of system memory, and consoles have historically used less, because really all they do is play games. Even with an app that ties to say... Facebook, if it isn't plugged into an operating system like Windows (which it won't be), it won't use more than one hundred megabytes of system memory.

Considering that they're planning on putting an engine like Unreal 4 on the thing... which is an AMAZING engine... that's going to take a lot of processing power,and this system looks ready to handle it. Which is awesome at the price point.

...Okay, all that technical jargon you just spouted, you just wasted your time because I have NO CLUE WHAT YOU JUST SAID. It literally came off like hearing the trumpet-voiced adults in Peanuts. All the stuff they showed like Deep Down, Killzone 4, and Infamous 3, yeah, it was an improvement over what the PS3 can do visually, but it wasn't as big a leap as the PS2 was to the PS3. And thank freaking Buddha for that because it means graphics are finally reaching a plateau

 

[Nocturnus]

That's because they were demonstrating current gen games.

The Playstation 3 is using the equivalent of a 7 Series GeForce Card, a Single Core Processor, and 256 MB System Memory with 256 MB of Graphics Memory.

The Playstation 4? Is using the equivalency of a mid-range 6 series GeForce (like the GeForce 660) (Yes... that's 9 full graphics processors ahead of its predecessor), a Six Core processor that is leaps and bounds faster than the PS3, and 8 Gigs of Physical System Memory.

The difference is HUGE, and they didn't do a very good job of demonstrating how good games can look on a system like that, and how fluid those good looking games can possibly run. And all that crammed into a package that is likely to sell for less than 500 bucks.

And I wouldn't be so sure about the console's background processes. Windows, for example, when idle runs at 1 gig of system memory, and consoles have historically used less, because really all they do is play games. Even with an app that ties to say... Facebook, if it isn't plugged into an operating system like Windows (which it won't be), it won't use more than one hundred megabytes of system memory.

Considering that they're planning on putting an engine like Unreal 4 on the thing... which is an AMAZING engine... that's going to take a lot of processing power,and this system looks ready to handle it. Which is awesome at the price point.

...Okay, all that technical jargon you just spouted, you just wasted your time because I have NO CLUE WHAT YOU JUST SAID. It literally came off like hearing the trumpet-voiced adults in Peanuts All the stuff they showed like Deep Down, Killzone 4, and Infamous 3, yeah, it was an improvement over what the PS3 can do, but it wasn't as big a leap as the PS2 was to the PS3. And thank freaking Buddha for that because it means graphics are finally reaching a plateau

Alright... in simplicity: No, Graphics are not reaching a Plateau.

You can YouTube Unreal 4's technical demos, many of which are not pre-rendered cinematics, and look really really neat, and all of which would turn the Playstation 3 into a smoldering pile of ash in even attempting to render it.

 

[Godhead]

I want to know about the Giant Enemy Crab. Will we be able to attack its weak point for massive damage?

For you m'lord.
OT: It has some neat things, but it also looks as if it has the potential to flop majorly in the long term.

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

Overall I think it was 'meh'.

I think they talked way too much about the social aspect, and not enough of anything else. Still, I'm intrigued to know what they also have planned for the PS4, and not really surprised about Diablo 3 since that was teased to death months and months ago.

Didn't get to see what it looked like, but that's just a small gripe. Having said that, I couldn't care less what the thing looks like since I want to know if it really can do what Sony says it can.

The Sony E3 conference will be very interesting.

 

[Pedro The Hutt]

I'm kind of worried about some of the social aspects of it.
If I understood it correctly it'll learn what you like and dislike and predict what game you'll probably buy next and even start preloading it. That to me sounds like a very insidious form of marketing. "Oh go on, buy Uncharted 4, it's already on your PS4 anyway". Especially for families with kids that could be a problem if the feature can't be turned off. As it's basically like the salesman shoving a puppy into the arms of your child.

Not too happy about that. They also seem to think everyone by now has internet connections that actually let you play a game as soon as you buy it and stream the rest. Considering on my connection I get around 600kb/s at best I -really- doubt that'll fly for me.

I already was pretty sure I wasn't going to buy a PS4, but nothing in the show managed to make me even start considering changing that idea.

 

[el_kabong]

Overall, I like where Sony's head's at with regards to the design tenants they are trying to embody. Sure, the specs are amazing, but they should be. Good graphics are a pre-requisite to a new console. With maybe the exception of Gamecube to Wii, I've never seen graphics go down in quality from one gen to the next. No surprises or excitement there. What really got me revved up is their development ideology.

They've included game developers outside the company in at (what appeared to be) near-ground level of the development life cycle and that they've actively tried to make the console developer-friendly and more equivalent to the freedom you get on a PC. They are attempting to make things easy for AAA studios and independent developers alike. If the PS4 truly does these things, then owners will see more available games from a greater variety of sources. People talk about how the PS2 was so great, but may not factor it that a large percentage of its greatness was from its 3P developer support.

Most of the social integration stuff I don't really care about. Honestly, I'm not going to continually post my KD ratio to Facebook...I want to keep my non-gamer friends. As long as it's not in the way, I can't really call it a negative thing, especially in the realm of integrating contact lists with social media. Hopefully, that means that they'll get rid of the 100-friend limit (or however large it is) currently being imposed on us.

I do love the idea of the "share" button. In my own opinion, Sony's really showing us how it's responding to legitimate demand in the gaming community. Last year, Microsoft worked legalese into its user agreement which prevented game play footage from being shown on advertised or subscription sites. Rather than attempt to restrict this popular practice, Sony is helping to facilitate it through built-in tools. Also, unlike most socialization touted by other devices, it's focused on something that only core gamers do. Casuals don't care about Let's Plays or Walkthroughs.

The "immediate gameplay" tenant is also something that's nice to hear. Background computing for downloads without sacrificing the game processors is a great idea. While streaming gameplay may have connection issues, how cool would it be for them to have a Netflix-esque service for games (pure speculation)? And don't tell me that when they say they want to have a playable portion of the all games available for trial with the phrase, "only buy what you love" doesn't sound completely refreshing considering most publishers will gladly skew demos/trailers/release dates in the hopes of selling you something they know is terrible (Aliens:Colonial Marines, anybody?)

There are certainly things I didn't like about the presentation (Square Enix, why did you even get any time with nothing substantial to announce?). In fact, most of the non-engine, 3P developer bits I could have done without. Overall, though, I went from not caring about the PS4 to being mildly excited. I rated it a "B".

Afterthought: Why is everyone so obsessed that they didn't show the console itself? It could be vomit-brown and held together by duct tape for all I care (if it delivers on the promises listed above and doesn't fall apart).

 

[Weaver]

Afterthought: Why is everyone so obsessed that they didn't show the console itself? It could be vomit-brown and held together by duct tape for all I care (if it delivers on the promises listed above and doesn't fall apart).

Because it was press event specifically to announce the console and to give us information about the console. If they were just going to hold off until E3, why do this at all?

Also, some people do have space considerations in their living room. If it's a massive beat (like the original PS3) then they'd probably like to know.