My thoughts exactly.coolredmk said:I've always considered games Mature if it contained no cursing or swearing, and had artwork capable of shaming the Mona Lisa. It'd also have to contain no immature humor, gratuitous scenes of gore or violence, sex (just for the fun of it, but sex is okay if used as a serious topic), and it has to have puzzles that weren't invented by my little brothers daycare.
Games I consider "mature" include: Legend of Zelda, Okami, Harvest Moon (most of the time, excluding Tree of Tranquility), Alan Wake, and Final Fantasy.
The problem is that the mature games on the Wii are, unfortunately, few and far between. The last one I managed to get my hands on was Silent Hill: Shattered Memories, which had *far* better nuance and restraint than anything else I'd played that year - Dragon Age included! Beyond that, though, is that the mindless little fluff games (e.g. Mario Galaxy and Boom Blox!, not to mention all the utterly crap 3rd party titles) are what get produced en masse on the Wii, since they'll have the most mass appeal.Mr. In-between said:I'm with the OP on this one. Like I've said time and again, when I see games like FEAR and GTA, I picture a group of thirteen year olds sitting around a TV thinking that they are hot shit in a champagne glass because they are playing a game that has the word "fuck" in it.
It's why Nintendo falls victim to what I dub the "Barney complex". In an effort to look more like adults, teenagers lambaste Nintendo for making "childish games" much like a younger child goes through the whole "I hate Barney" phase in an effort to look less like a toddler.
Well spoken!coolredmk said:I've always considered games Mature if it contained no cursing or swearing, and had artwork capable of shaming the Mona Lisa. It'd also have to contain no immature humor, gratuitous scenes of gore or violence, sex (just for the fun of it, but sex is okay if used as a serious topic), and it has to have puzzles that weren't invented by my little brothers daycare.
Games I consider "mature" include: Legend of Zelda, Okami, Harvest Moon (most of the time, excluding Tree of Tranquility), Alan Wake, and Final Fantasy.
Eisenfaust said:same as with dvd's, rough, gory and full of sex...
a game with sublety, nuance and restraint is normally classified as "good"
I agree with both of these guys. We can say that subtle nuance makes an adult game, but that is pretty subjective.Ghostwise said:Anything rated M?
What he said.Eisenfaust said:same as with dvd's, rough, gory and full of sex...
a game with sublety, nuance and restraint is normally classified as "good"
Essentially this.Eisenfaust said:same as with dvd's, rough, gory and full of sex...
a game with sublety, nuance and restraint is normally classified as "good"
Nautical Honors Society said:Eisenfaust said:same as with dvd's, rough, gory and full of sex...
a game with sublety, nuance and restraint is normally classified as "good"I agree with both of these guys. We can say that subtle nuance makes an adult game, but that is pretty subjective.Ghostwise said:Anything rated M?
There could be some really bright kids out there that appreciate subtlety, nuance, and restraint...but probably not too many youglings can handle certain levels of blood and gore.
dfcrackhead said:Porn... That is "adult"... Subtlety could only be "adult" if you're mature enough to notice it.
I couldn't agree more with this. It really pisses me off when people hate on Nintendo because they're making colourful games. Who cares, they're FUN! Just because they didn't pump out "Brown Ultra-Violent Cover Based Shooter 36" doesn't make their games childish. The games may be suitable for children, but they aren't designed for children. Rated E for everyone should perhaps be taken a bit more literally.Mr. In-between said:I'm with the OP on this one. Like I've said time and again, when I see games like FEAR and GTA, I picture a group of thirteen year olds sitting around a TV thinking that they are hot shit in a champagne glass because they are playing a game that has the word "fuck" in it.
It's why Nintendo falls victim to what I dub the "Barney complex". In an effort to look more like adults, teenagers lambaste Nintendo for making "childish games" much like a younger child goes through the whole "I hate Barney" phase in an effort to look less like a toddler.