Blablahb said:
Nonsense. That only flies if you were to never take a shower. Besides, how about we just cut off all our limbs then? Those can also infect after all.
And considering you likely used arms and fingers to type your post, all limbs that can infect, you don't even follow your own line of reasoning.
I'm sorry, but that's retarded logic right there. I understand going to the extreme is the point of arguing, but you are essentially arguing that there should never be stairs because Mt. Everest is hard to climb.Circumcising a penis near birth literally does nothing but prevent the possibility of future infection. Chopping off your arm can lead to phantom limb pain, not to mention inhibit your ability to interact with the world.
I know you can clean it, I'm not stupid. My question is why risk it. You could go camping for two weeks, or hell, he's a boy. I know lots off guys who just go days without realizing they needed to take a shower. It's damage control.
Also, why is it that doctors immediately circumcise the penis if the parents don't say anything? Please tell me because I'd like to know why a physician with 15 years of training would do something so "harmful."
Blablahb said:
All the more reason not to practise genital mutilation at all eh? Besides, it's totally immoral to mutilate a child that has no choice in the matter. It's even immoral to mutilate a child that has seen no other ideas except religious dogma, and pretend it was a free choice.
I'm an Atheist and am glad my parents, who are also not religious, decided to give me the snip. Guess what, I haven't felt pain or any kind of discomfort my entire life, and I'm walking around feeling pretty good about myself. Besides, its as benign as getting your ears pierced, or if you want a more intense comparison, getting your appendix removed. There is no harm, I don't get why you are getting so uppity about this.
Blablahb said:
Sorry, what? I can see such a thing happening in Israel, but outside of that, needless genital mutilation is not practised at all. Heck, female genital mutilation is even a crime in just about any country. Circumcise a girl here and you're going away for 10-15 years in prison.
Female circumcision is harmful, that's why we don't do it. Male circumcision is beneficial, that's why we do it. Also, I apologize, I can't speak for the rest of the world, but that's how it is in the U.S.
Blablahb said:
Again I wonder where you're from that you say that. Such a thing is completely unknown to me. It even sounds outlandish. Why would any woman approve of genital mutilation unless they've been indoctrinated with the religious dogma that pretends it to be a good thing.
Have you seen an uncircumcised penis? It's awkward to look at and kinda gross. I have literally asked all five of the women nearby me just now what they thought, and they all told me they prefer circumcised. They tell its easier to work with, and by golly I agree.
Blablahb said:
Earlier you said that even wearing underwear was painfull, so you're contradicting yourself here.
I said once you're older it is. When your a baby you don't feel a thing, or more so you can't mentally process any potential pain. Besides what the hell does a kid do with his penis besides pee anyways. What I'm confused by is why anybody would actually be angry about being circumcised or the practice of circumcision in general. It's a non-problem.
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Sewora said:
1) The foreskin helps keep it clean and avoid infections, do some research. Following your logic we'd have to remove the armpits too or stitch the labia majora and minora to the thighs on women to expose the vagina and make it dry. The glans is supposed to be somewhat moist to keep a good pH balance. Please name one gland on the human body that's supposed to be dry and sandy.
2) Why would you do it at all if it serves no purpose? No one is doing it at adult age, it's just stupid.
3) One of the very few first world countries that still has circumsizion as a standard procedure is the US. And even there it's becomming less and less common.
Sure it helps keep the penis clean and avoid infections, that is if we are running around naked like we used to as a species. We now have clothes that serve this function, so the argument that we need it to keep clean has literally been evolved out of our system. Doing that other stuff you just mentioned is dangerous, and the risk of danger from a circumcision is minuscule.
When I said it makes no difference, I mean it makes no difference to the person growing up with either a circumcised or uncircumcised penis. When adult men get circumcisions for either religious or hygienic reasons. That is an issue because there are many sensitivity issues involved with adapting to a penis that is newly exposed to the world.
Finally, the U.S. is leading the world in medical innovation. Don't say we are doing it wrong if everyone else is playing catch up.
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CountryMike said:
It's not common at al in Western Europe afaik
Apparently neither is proper grammar or spelling. I guess I should have been more specific because I am speaking from an anecdotal perspective. From what I have read and heard, what I said is probably true, at least in the U.S. I can't speak for places like Spain or France.