Currently my 3DS is seeing the most use, but I also play a lot of Wii and PS3. Not a PC gamer by any stretch.
Your opinion is yours and all, but most of those points can be, quite frankly, objectively debunked. But I'm sure others will so you'll have no more from me. Except the part about Halo =DTrippy Turtle said:I am beginning to believe I really am the only one to prefer Xbox Live for online. I prefer it because: The friends list on Xbox Live. The easy switch between game chat and chatting with friends in another game. Matchmaking never works on PC for me on half the games.Sanat said:This must be a troll, but I'll bite anywayTrippy Turtle said:I prefer console because of xbox live and the xbox controller. I can't be bothered shelling out $15 for the controller adapter and less convenient online play.
How is Xbox live superior to any form of PC-based online play? And the Xbox controller itself goes for ~$40 dollars, a PC based version is a fraction of the price. Hell, a month and a half of sacrificed Xbox live covers it.
The chat one is the main reason for me. I can be playing Halo (another reason now I think about it: Halo is awesome) and talking in game chat. Then my friend comes online and I want to talk to him. On PC it would be incredibly inconvenient to call them on Skype or something but on Xbox I can just invite them to a party chat no matter what game they are playing.
As a lesser reason, I really like achievements and comparing them with friends. Steam does achievements but on Xbox every game has achievements whereas on Steam it only has a few of the PC games I would be playing.
Also not every PC game works with an Xbox controller. Using a mouse and keyboard for any sort of first person game annoys the hell out of me.
Sorry to deconstruct your post so hard, but I feel the need.Trippy Turtle said:I am beginning to believe I really am the only one to prefer Xbox Live for online. I prefer it because: The friends list on Xbox Live. The easy switch between game chat and chatting with friends in another game. Matchmaking never works on PC for me on half the games.Sanat said:This must be a troll, but I'll bite anywayTrippy Turtle said:I prefer console because of xbox live and the xbox controller. I can't be bothered shelling out $15 for the controller adapter and less convenient online play.
How is Xbox live superior to any form of PC-based online play? And the Xbox controller itself goes for ~$40 dollars, a PC based version is a fraction of the price. Hell, a month and a half of sacrificed Xbox live covers it.
The chat one is the main reason for me. I can be playing Halo (another reason now I think about it: Halo is awesome) and talking in game chat. Then my friend comes online and I want to talk to him. On PC it would be incredibly inconvenient to call them on Skype or something but on Xbox I can just invite them to a party chat no matter what game they are playing.
As a lesser reason, I really like achievements and comparing them with friends. Steam does achievements but on Xbox every game has achievements whereas on Steam it only has a few of the PC games I would be playing.
Also not every PC game works with an Xbox controller. Using a mouse and keyboard for any sort of first person game annoys the hell out of me.
Personally I play both PC and 360, I tend to get newer games on the 360 and use the pc for indie games + games on steam sales.Sanat said:Controls:
Personally I find the mouse and keyboard a trillion times better than the controller due to the ability to actually control what you're looking at with finesse, and at a rate that isn't snail slime. If I want my character to suddenly look to the right to see something, I can do it with a deft flick of the mouse. With a controller I have to sluggishly turn around, or with higher sensitivity, fly suddenly in a wayward direction. WASD is just a simpler version of the joystick, but it works well in conjunction with the more convenient mouse. And Controllers will work with most every game with the right drivers, if you're so adverse to using the mouse and keyboard.
This is a fairly opinion based point with a lot of aesthetic qualities, but there's a stronger argument for the mouse and keyboard (Admittedly not by much in most cases. RTSs however...).
For the chat, I hate playing a full screen game and having to alt tab to use skype or other chat programs. Being able to add games to steam would probably help although I would still prefer party chat.Sanat said:Sorry to deconstruct your post so hard, but I feel the need.Trippy Turtle said:I am beginning to believe I really am the only one to prefer Xbox Live for online. I prefer it because: The friends list on Xbox Live. The easy switch between game chat and chatting with friends in another game. Matchmaking never works on PC for me on half the games.Sanat said:This must be a troll, but I'll bite anywayTrippy Turtle said:I prefer console because of xbox live and the xbox controller. I can't be bothered shelling out $15 for the controller adapter and less convenient online play.
How is Xbox live superior to any form of PC-based online play? And the Xbox controller itself goes for ~$40 dollars, a PC based version is a fraction of the price. Hell, a month and a half of sacrificed Xbox live covers it.
The chat one is the main reason for me. I can be playing Halo (another reason now I think about it: Halo is awesome) and talking in game chat. Then my friend comes online and I want to talk to him. On PC it would be incredibly inconvenient to call them on Skype or something but on Xbox I can just invite them to a party chat no matter what game they are playing.
As a lesser reason, I really like achievements and comparing them with friends. Steam does achievements but on Xbox every game has achievements whereas on Steam it only has a few of the PC games I would be playing.
Also not every PC game works with an Xbox controller. Using a mouse and keyboard for any sort of first person game annoys the hell out of me.
Friends list:
See Steam; you can play any game, and talk to anyone in any other game. It's applicable to nearly every single non-steam game there is too, and if that's not possible, Alt+tabbing is rarely an option. And if both of those irritate you too much, there's always Xfire.
Chat:
Covered already, as has inconvenience; it takes mere seconds to call someone in Skype, even with alt+tabbing, and Steam itself has a voice calling option.
Halo:
One of the greatest console games (in my opinion, Halo 2 is the best console game) to have ever existed. Ported to PC, and I like it even more on that. If they also ported 3, the pseudo-spin offs and 4 to PC, I'd be a very happy panda. Basically it's a shame they're exclusives. I think that that applies to all exclusives personally, however.
Achievements:
I think this plays to each platform's strengths. Xbox games have more achievements, to an extent, but it'll be the same with Steam eventually anyway (New Steam games almost always have a set, and Steam is a newer platform). I don't like the achievements on Xbox because I don't enjoy the Xbox's online in any way. I do like Steam's, because I like its online. Obviously for you, it's vice versa.
Controls:
Personally I find the mouse and keyboard a trillion times better than the controller due to the ability to actually control what you're looking at with finesse, and at a rate that isn't snail slime. If I want my character to suddenly look to the right to see something, I can do it with a deft flick of the mouse. With a controller I have to sluggishly turn around, or with higher sensitivity, fly suddenly in a wayward direction. WASD is just a simpler version of the joystick, but it works well in conjunction with the more convenient mouse. And Controllers will work with most every game with the right drivers, if you're so adverse to using the mouse and keyboard.
This is a fairly opinion based point with a lot of aesthetic qualities, but there's a stronger argument for the mouse and keyboard (Admittedly not by much in most cases. RTSs however...).
I prefer matchmaking over dedicated servers. It trys (and often fails I will admit)to put you with people on your level and with people you don't constantly face. I would rather play with randoms than the same people over and over again.teh_gunslinger said:Matchmaking is the devils work, so I for one is quite happy that it's not a thing in most PC games. Why anyone would settle for match making over proper dedicated servers baffles me. How would you kick and ban racists, cheaters and other assholes? No sir. Give me a dedicated server any day over being forced to play with random jerks on the internet. And that's not even mentioning the major flaws in using P2P for playing.Trippy Turtle said:I am beginning to believe I really am the only one to prefer Xbox Live for online. I prefer it because: The friends list on Xbox Live. The easy switch between game chat and chatting with friends in another game. Matchmaking never works on PC for me on half the games.Sanat said:This must be a troll, but I'll bite anywayTrippy Turtle said:I prefer console because of xbox live and the xbox controller. I can't be bothered shelling out $15 for the controller adapter and less convenient online play.
How is Xbox live superior to any form of PC-based online play? And the Xbox controller itself goes for ~$40 dollars, a PC based version is a fraction of the price. Hell, a month and a half of sacrificed Xbox live covers it.
The chat one is the main reason for me. I can be playing Halo (another reason now I think about it: Halo is awesome) and talking in game chat. Then my friend comes online and I want to talk to him. On PC it would be incredibly inconvenient to call them on Skype or something but on Xbox I can just invite them to a party chat no matter what game they are playing.
As a lesser reason, I really like achievements and comparing them with friends. Steam does achievements but on Xbox every game has achievements whereas on Steam it only has a few of the PC games I would be playing.
Also not every PC game works with an Xbox controller. Using a mouse and keyboard for any sort of first person game annoys the hell out of me.
As for friends lists there are several programs, including Steam, that sort your friends out. Only issue can be to get everyone in one place, but I personally prefer to split it up.
I'm a bit confused why calling someone on Skype is more a hassle that party chat, but whatever. No need to use Skype. I personally use Mumble or TeamSpeak for all my multiplayer needs. For the Arma 2 sessions it's great to be be able to put people into different fire team channels with a command channel between the leaders. We still die hilariously though. Skype is a bandwidth hog I think, and I wouldn't use it while playing unless I had no choice.
Achievements can go die in a fire. I wish no games had them.
As for controllers, it's very rare indeed for a game not to support it these days unless we're talking Hearts of Iron or Crusader Kings 2. If for some made reason people want to use a controller they can, bar a scant few exceptions.