Poll: When did reading become so horrible?

Oskamunda

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For anyone who DOES like to read, get your hands on Charles Baxter's "The Importance of Being Still."

Anyway, the point at where reading became a bad thing is not one single event or timeframe, but rather the synergy of several generations of technological developments. Back in the day, one had to entertain one's self when on the road for the three day trip to market. Or in the time that it took to wind one piece of rope, work a loom, or cook your supper [which used to be a process that literally began before the sun came up]. The mind does many things during these periods of repetitive tasks, not least of all stimulate itself with a tumult of questions, singing, or self-storytelling. These things develop unpatterned responses to stimuli in the brain, reinforcing individuality and auto-didactics.

We have those things no more, as we have not the time to cram them in. Now, we MUST fill the moments of silence with the drone of the TV in the background, or update our immediate feelings on Twitter or Facebook [which is ALWAYS a bad idea...same principle as don't go to sleep angry]. We MUST do this because we CAN. We have iPods and game consoles and the internet and the TV and a five-minute car ride to get some fast food. I'm not saying those times were necessarily better, as I don't think they were. But we are missing a very important part of ourselves that is derived from such moments of boredom:

Our individuality. We are now settling for patterned responses to fill downtime voids. Put the TV on to help you go to sleep, rather than think about something until you do the same...even better, allow the commercials to infiltrate and affect your dreams. You're sad, so go tweet about it, rather than use that feeling for self-reflection. You're lonely, so go to Facebook to interact with people without the responsibility of face-to-face contact, rather than contemplate the nature of loneliness. Allow your individuality to fester, and allow it to be replaced by the left and right extremists, who tell you what your opinions should be about various subjects...but never why and always without substantial evidence. But, we also grow addicted to that ease of living, that not having to think. That is why people get so acerbic when confronted with opposing viewpoints...viewpoints opposing opinions that were never really theirs to begin with; the path of least resistance is being challenged.

Necromancer1991 said:
I'm a high School senior and for some reason whenever my english teacher assigns any kind of reading assignment it sounds like someone is being tortured, grunts and moans of dismay flood my ears and that got me wondering, when did reading become the thing of nightmares? Yeah sure it could be said that reading can be boring but they make it out as this horrible thing which is taking them to a dark room somewhere to torture them. I would like to know all of your opinions on this matter.
This is why those students respond that way. Any time away from their distractions will not only eat away at the time available to them to go get distracted, but reading something may actually open up something in their minds...something that challenges that path of least resistance. And deep down, they know it; that's why they make such complaints as, "But I don't WANNA think right now." It's so bad nowadays that the only real individuality left to be had is through extremism within the already accepted social groupings, and how those groups are counter-culturally opposed to each other. You don't like to read because it's good for you, it's because you're a geek. Further, when you do read, the geeks will judge you based on WHAT you read, even though reading such filth as Twilight is better than tweeting about your stomach pangs. You're not a real singer, because you do/don't like country. You're not a real athlete because golf/pool/cricket/croquet isn't really a sport. It goes on and on.

And it never ends well.

Just remember that, even if you end up miserable for all time because you think too much about things, or your job makes you work to hard because you have the self-dignity to take pride in it, or because everyone else hates you; if all these things happen to you, at least it was because you contemplated it, weighed the cost to benefit ratio, and CHOSE it all the same. If suffering the plight of the intellectual for a lifetime doesn't sound appealing, then go let the marketers shove some more insane troll logic up your ass with a shit chisel, and hang on their every word.

Sorry the post is so long, but didn't think anyone would mind, seeing as the thread is about READING.
 

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Oh and yeah, you have to read some stupid stuff in High School "Tale of Two Cities" is Dicken's worst book by a wide margin but we read that. Meanwhile, Alexander Dumas goes unread. Criminal.
Someone's never read "Pickwick Papers". Good Gods, y'all. I mean, damn.

Shame to see someone slating Pride and Prejudice up there, I really enjoyed it - even as a stereotypical cynical teenage boy I could appreciate its wit, so I think that if you give it a chance APART from its Bridget Jones/Chick Flick bastardised incarnations that currently plague the movie world, anyone can enjoy it.

Dumas I've always felt to be a little pulpy personally, but then he has a kind of weirdly prescient postmodern attitude to his work...and as always, I can chuck in a "NOTTHATTHERE'SANYTHINGWRONGWITHTHAT" at this point.

And the Shakespeare issue: I love the language in Shakespeare, and unless you're an upper-class Elizabethan who patronises the theatre regularly (whosa good theatre? yes oo are), you can't appreciate that without deep reading. Also, going to the actual plays results in irritating pretentious c-words who insist on laughing unnaturally loud at every joke. Yeah, well done, you got the joke. Move the hell on.

EDIT: At Kaiser Jon, WHAT?! Reading your hates and likes it seems you're almost the opposite of me. Always disliked Twain here. So, I'm biased against you from the start ;)
But you seem to have placed Woolf, Austen and Steinbeck in the same mythical time period and that confuses me. And makes me dismiss the rest of what you say :p.
 

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I love reading and have done ever since I was 5. I would read anything I got my heands on including the dictionary. I adored anything by Dickens, Austen, Eyre even Shakespeare...

Then came high school where I had to read weird crazy stuff (IMO) like Calamity Jones, The Giver etc. etc. which I detested and so was miserable anytime I was made to read any of those books.

I think my English teacher (American guy from Detroit teaching in a Swiss high school) knew that I couldn't bear the books and barely read 1 out of 3. He kept calling my name and asking me to outline the plots, summarize, theorize etc. Needless to say, I didn't really like him much.
 

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I read almost every night... as does my girlfriend and most of my friends =/

Probably the "youth culture of today" that think reading isn't as cool as watching a film or getting drunk every night of the week.
 

Coldsnap

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This is pretty simple; people don't enjoy things they are forced to do.

I mean we're all here because we enjoy video games, but if you had to play them all the time, or ones you couldn't choose, would they really be fun anymore?

Also this isn't just reading a book. It's summaries and analyzing and all other manner of bull to go along with it.
 

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Because most of the books read in school are "Classics" which I like to define as "Books experts praise but don't read". Most of them are either boring, stupid, pointless, and/or irrelevant to our generation. Of all the books I read in high school, the only one I actually found halfway interesting was "The pearl" by Steinbeck.
All of the other were deeply flawed. To Kill a Mockingbird for example, took forever to get anywhere and had no real point. Shakespeare was virtually impenetrable in its dialog, so much so nobody in class understood half of what the characters were saying. Plato's Republic was even harder to read and was detailing a society that would make Hitler look like a moderate. And so forth. Personally, I think if we were assigned to read books that were not so archaic in their language, then the classes might have liked books more. But asking someone to read something over three hundred years old and have them understand it is a bit like trying to teach a senior citizen how to program a computer game. It's just not relevant to their lives, and much of the context is missing.
That's funny, I hated the Pearl, but like How to Kill a Mocking Bird. I agree that To Kill a Mocking Bird had no point, but I like books like that, they're like the Catcher in the Rye. I don't really like Shakespeare either. It's not the context, but the old language it uses. I can't wrap my head around all the weird speaking quirks that they used back then. I haven't read Platos Republic though, it doesn't sound good though.
 

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"I read almost every night... as does my girlfriend and most of my friends =/

Probably the "youth culture of today" that think reading isn't as cool as watching a film or getting drunk every night of the week."


Ha! You sound so stereotypically grumpy and old there :D.

And reading isn't "cool", nor will it ever be. I hope the idea of "cool" disappears from the face of the earth. It's a smug, complacent, middle-class concept that clearly opposes itself to hard work or even the idea of a power-structure that some people HAVE to conform to, like it or not.

I was "cool" at University, and it's only after I left I realised how I'd become everything I hated growing up. It could happen to you too! Kids - say no to cool.
 

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I love to read. I just don't enjoy reading without a choice as to what I'm reading.

I can't stand Atwood because my first year university English professor forced us to read Alias Grace, and he sucked the joy out of that so very much. We also had to read A Tale of Two Cities and that was almost as bad as Alias Grace. I haven't been able to touch a book of hers since, which, considering that I'd read all her novels and short stories before I started university, is pretty sad. Thank goodness he didn't ruin Timothy Findley for me.

However, I chose to read and compare Moby Dick and Jaws for my last English class in high school. Because I chose to read them, I enjoyed reading those two books, excluding the very detailed account of whaling in the middle of Moby Dick.
 

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School ruined reading for me. Ever since I had to read the honors books, I've stopped reading regular books.
 

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The groans are understandable at my school. All they make us read there are Animal Farm, Lord of the Flies, stuff by Edgar Allen Poe, and stuff by Shakespeare. After a while of reading the same thing over and over again it gets pretty annoying.
 

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I am considered a nerd in my class just by the fact that i can actually READ properly.
Books deliver a magical experience in which we are given a description and we can imagine whatever we want in our mind.
I cant watch iron man and imagine he turns black.
But i can read about him and imagine him pink.
 

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It really seems to depend. I think books become horrible when they stray to far from the point. And the issue on kids not learning to read is what the first guy said, pretty colors and explosions (I.E. Iron Man 2) are all that is needed to satisfy the average human brain. Not color-less text that actually have to make the dumb****s think. They shudder when they think about it. Things like this are only increased when a series like Twilight comes out, not saying its bad, but people who don't like the idea get discouraged about all books. though it does help those who like the idea and gets them to read more. I love books however, but like I said, they lose the fine quality that books had way, way back when. Much like cinema, books seem much like a rehash of everything that came before. Nobody lets thier imagination wander anymore, they simply follow the dopey guidlines every book follows, giving you the same story. That and people are boring these days. It is not bad to "steal" an idea from something, especially if it should've been a book instead of something else.(I'm looking at you Mass Effect) And people lack imagination to. You could write down the dumbest think on paper, but if it's executed well, then nobody should complain. Like a book about a fire-breathing cheeseburger that eats cats.
 

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I just deleted three paragraphs. I'll keep this short. You already answered your own question. The reason on one reads is because the school makes it boring. The schools pick a boring book, force you to read it (or use cliffnotes haha like I did) and write about it. *Then* next semester they assign you another book and now you cringe because you suspect it'll suck just like the the last two.

I mean, what would you rather be doing, reading some boring book the school selected or playing xbox, hanging with friends (or the gf) and sports. They (the schools book choices) suck and the schools don't understand their audience.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
Marowit said:
MiracleOfSound said:
What pissed me off in school was how the teachers always picked the most dumb, slow readers who used to stumble and tumble over every word like their tongues were drunk.

I would just read ahead myself and then daydream while I waited for them to catch up.
Hey!

That was me! I have dyslexia, and I would always get lost on the page and then feel even more awkward....

Thanks for reassuring all my fears that were running through my head while I read out loud.

/rocksinacorner
No probs!

Really though, there were 2 dyslexic guys in my English class and they were never asked to read because they didn't want to. No-one thought any less of them for it. Believe me, Dyslexic poeple are not the only ones who have trouble reading... and at least you have an excuse! :D
That reminds me of a 6th grade reading test I took back in the day. Our teacher randomized and made our results anonymous and then we all plotted a graph of the results (shown as reading level) on a large sheet of paper. The Mexican immigrant kid scored better (4th-5th grade reading level) than this dude named Dustin in my class. I'm pretty sure that Dustin did not have the excuse of being dyslexic, he was just a lazy idiot. Everyone in class knew which results were mine though, I had college level scores at that age.

EDIT: On topic though, I think people groan and complain because too often they are forced to read the "classics" for school. While these books may speak to human universals and experience, there are other books that do so equally well and in a more modern style that current readers can appreciate better.
 

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Funnily enough, I was in the "slow readers" group in my primary school and yet I'm now considered "superior" in the reading speed rankings. Though I can't really imagine why reading would become so irksome, personally I tend to read the books which inspired the films and then judge the film adaption based on the book's concept. Usually, they disappoint and never meet my expectations.

Reading is fun though, it enables you to imagine the scenario instead of having shite actors who only got hired because they're attractive/popular enough. Unfortunately, reading can be offputting especially if you're forced to do it for lessons (especially if they're mind-numbingly boring ones). Although, I say this as an enthusiastic literature fanatic and everyone's tastes are different.