Poll: Which Deus Ex: Human Revolution Ending did you choose? *SPOILERS*
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Who was adam (Or me I guess since I was playing him) TO make a choice for humanity. Self-destruct seemed like the best course, it got rid of the three most important parts of the pro/anti augmentation arguments, allowing for humanity to make its own choice.
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Pretty much this. Especially the brofist.
But no, I chose Sarif because I 1: objected to the illuminati, 2: have no qualms about twisting the truth a bit for the greater benefit and 3: I love the idea of cybernetics, cyberisation, all that. I'd love to work on it one day, hence why I'm studying genetics. I like to think one day I'll get there. I can dream!
Hugh Darrow. It is the only honest path. Although it might lead to the abollishment of augs, that will be for humanity to decide, once they know the truth. There are no guarantees with this option, just as there are none in real life.
Sarif's was a Corporate lie to give power to the corporations.
Taggart's a Big Government lie to press government even more into our personal lives.
Destruction was a big cop out.
What it boils down to is: who do you trust, mankind, corporations, or government?
Sarif's was a Corporate lie to give power to the corporations.
Taggart's a Big Government lie to press government even more into our personal lives.
Destruction was a big cop out.
What it boils down to is: who do you trust, mankind, corporations, or government?
Okay, Hello people. I got an account on this site just for this discussion, and here is how I see it and how I believe it is.
I chose Hugh Darrow's ending for these reasons, believe me or not.
Okay, I hated that Hugh Darrow was a complete bigot because he could not have Augmentations himself, BUT the fact is Eliza and Darrow both said that his confession contained UNBIASED, FACTUAL truths about the Illuminati using the Bio-Chips to control people. I don't agree with him using the signal, I don't agree with his bigotry but in no way does this ending mean that Augmentations will he banned, outlawed or even harshly regulated. Hugh Darrow only exposed the Illuminati's plans never once in the confession did he say anything about how Augments should not be used or banned even though that was his sentiment. He only wanted people to know the truth so they could make their own decisions, and in no way does this mean you are controlling the opinions of other people.
I've heard a lot of people say that the Self-Destruct ending is probably canon and that it's the only one that is unbiased and allows people to choose for themselves. So I ask you, has the truth ever swayed your opinion on computers??? Cyber-Predators, Hacking, Identity theft, Tracking people through GPS and such.. I don't see people banning computers, because essentially the technology is GOOD. BUT you know the truth about computers... THIS is only what Hugh Darrow had done. May some people not want Augs after the confession? YES, will EVERYONE refuse Augs? NO because people have their own opinions and no matter what happens as long as they get THE COMPLETE UNBIASED TRUTH on the matter like Hugh Darrow gave humans will always be able to make their own opinions.
(Chose Hugh Darrow for those reasons)
plus I wasn't about to slaughter hundreds of innocent workers who would have been fine after stopping the signal. It's not my place to decide when a group should live or die.
I chose Hugh Darrow's ending for these reasons, believe me or not.
Okay, I hated that Hugh Darrow was a complete bigot because he could not have Augmentations himself, BUT the fact is Eliza and Darrow both said that his confession contained UNBIASED, FACTUAL truths about the Illuminati using the Bio-Chips to control people. I don't agree with him using the signal, I don't agree with his bigotry but in no way does this ending mean that Augmentations will he banned, outlawed or even harshly regulated. Hugh Darrow only exposed the Illuminati's plans never once in the confession did he say anything about how Augments should not be used or banned even though that was his sentiment. He only wanted people to know the truth so they could make their own decisions, and in no way does this mean you are controlling the opinions of other people.
I've heard a lot of people say that the Self-Destruct ending is probably canon and that it's the only one that is unbiased and allows people to choose for themselves. So I ask you, has the truth ever swayed your opinion on computers??? Cyber-Predators, Hacking, Identity theft, Tracking people through GPS and such.. I don't see people banning computers, because essentially the technology is GOOD. BUT you know the truth about computers... THIS is only what Hugh Darrow had done. May some people not want Augs after the confession? YES, will EVERYONE refuse Augs? NO because people have their own opinions and no matter what happens as long as they get THE COMPLETE UNBIASED TRUTH on the matter like Hugh Darrow gave humans will always be able to make their own opinions.
(Chose Hugh Darrow for those reasons)
plus I wasn't about to slaughter hundreds of innocent workers who would have been fine after stopping the signal. It's not my place to decide when a group should live or die.
to me the ending is all about the choice. The stock footage and narrative was just an artistic choice that I agree they shouldn't have made... I kinda wanted to know if Megan and Adam ever got back together and how everything worked out with that guy I helped with the Neuropozine shipments (Gave him a contact in Sarif Industries apparently) but that's just how the developers wanted it to end... suspenseful sort of.
I saved before I made my choice so I could go back and see all 4 endings in one go and get the trophy. I personally liked the self-destruct ending.
However considering the fact that Human Revolution is a prequel to the first 2 games and the first 2 games feature people with augments. Unless you choose the "yay augments" ending, every other choice you make is kinda pointless anyway.
However considering the fact that Human Revolution is a prequel to the first 2 games and the first 2 games feature people with augments. Unless you choose the "yay augments" ending, every other choice you make is kinda pointless anyway.
It helps relate to the real world and similar dilemas we had faced. Could it have been an ending where Adam talks with Sarif/Taggart/Darrow and asking them about their future and his and pending on your ethics will change Adam's dialogue but the ending is fine on it's own.Ashen1 said:to me the ending is all about the choice. The stock footage and narrative was just an artistic choice that I agree they shouldn't have made... I kinda wanted to know if Megan and Adam ever got back together and how everything worked out with that guy I helped with the Neuropozine shipments (Gave him a contact in Sarif Industries apparently) but that's just how the developers wanted it to end... suspenseful sort of.
Sarif's ending. Overall I felt the selection and the execution of the endings was one of the worst parts of Deus Ex 3, Sarifs ending would pave the way for wider augmentation and unless you weren't paying attention to the story, using Jensen as a base would eliminate the need for Neuropozene eventually. Not a perfect world but better than the other choices.
Destruction, otherwise known as stupidity, killing yourself is not a viable option when faced with such a dilema, the moralty of it also implies that common people are smart enough to make the best future, unfortunately this isn't the case and SOMOENE ELSE would just step up with their own reasons for the incident occurring and spin it in their favour, someone like BOB ****ing PAGE!
Taggart: Augmentations are powerful, they can create armies that no normal force would oppose, lets give supreme power over these to the Illuminati, that way they can decide the lives of everyone by dicking around with the on/off button or using them as an iron fist (it would happen eventually)
Darrow: : Lets be afraid of technology, it's obviously the mother of all evil, don't forget those dark days when we discovered how the AC current could kill a man, god forbid we wired entire nations this way. Oh and lets not forget that dreaded population surge that followed curing smallpox. Utter stupidity, besides killing yourself this has to be the worst of the endings.
Way I see things is that strangely Sarifs ending would be the only one that could alter the timeline and prevent the effects of the original game. More people would have freedom to research the technology and the illuminati (which includes Bob Page) would have to race to keep up, in the other endings they can take advantage and get into first place always making sure there's no real competition.
EDIT: Also note that if you kill yourself you'll never get to give Megan a piece of your mind, seirously ALL of my hate.
Destruction, otherwise known as stupidity, killing yourself is not a viable option when faced with such a dilema, the moralty of it also implies that common people are smart enough to make the best future, unfortunately this isn't the case and SOMOENE ELSE would just step up with their own reasons for the incident occurring and spin it in their favour, someone like BOB ****ing PAGE!
Taggart: Augmentations are powerful, they can create armies that no normal force would oppose, lets give supreme power over these to the Illuminati, that way they can decide the lives of everyone by dicking around with the on/off button or using them as an iron fist (it would happen eventually)
Darrow: : Lets be afraid of technology, it's obviously the mother of all evil, don't forget those dark days when we discovered how the AC current could kill a man, god forbid we wired entire nations this way. Oh and lets not forget that dreaded population surge that followed curing smallpox. Utter stupidity, besides killing yourself this has to be the worst of the endings.
Way I see things is that strangely Sarifs ending would be the only one that could alter the timeline and prevent the effects of the original game. More people would have freedom to research the technology and the illuminati (which includes Bob Page) would have to race to keep up, in the other endings they can take advantage and get into first place always making sure there's no real competition.
EDIT: Also note that if you kill yourself you'll never get to give Megan a piece of your mind, seirously ALL of my hate.
That was my first pick too, for the same reason.busters said:
.....I was dissapointed at the result.
After looking at all the endings, I think I would have sided with Taggart. It was the least worst, IMO. Augmentation can continue, the world isn't thrown into anarchy, etc.
But I do think that the "blow up everything" ending is the canon one. It leaves the least amount of plotholes.
Oh, and BTW, I blasted Darrow with the PEP gun.
A couple broken ribs will do that idiot some good. He was the only guy I wasn't able to win a debate against. Not even with the Casie aug (and no, I NEVER used that one move convince move in a full on debate battle. It felt too cheap for that.)First off I'd like to say that this game was crazy awesome. I love games that actually make you think.
Personally I chose Sarif's. You DO lie slightly and put the blame on the anti-aug organizations (douches) but it also paves the way to continue technological advancement, and honestly who cares about those bastards. Over time humans have evolved and always been able to use their creative and innovative minds to come up with new solutions for arising conflicts/problems. Technology and human advancement will always be around, its not going anywhere, hence why I chose this path.
I liked Darrow's for the mere fact that it was the truth, whole truth, and nothing but. This truth brought exposure of the Illuminati (assholes) and their dreams of human enslavement. I did NOT like the fact that it would make the people who already had augs become outcasts, what's done is done, past is past. This would also pave the way for more illegal activity for blackmarket augs and cause far more crime than previously.
Let's face it, we all hated Taggart the first time we met him in David's office. He's an arrogant douchebag know-it-all who thinks he is supreme. I wasn't about to lie for Taggart's ass and not expose the Illuminati. The only point that stood out to me is that everything does need regulation so it will not get out of hand, which brings me to.....
Self DESTRUCTO!!! This option was my second choice because of the fact that the people's lives would be in THEIR own hands. Humans have always had control over big decisions and always seem to choose correctly, for the most part. Not letting the people know about the dickhole Illuminati isn't ideal but ignorance is bliss I suppose. I wasn't about to wish death upon Mr. AJ. Plus he still needs to ask Megan if she is down for the aug penis, considering he thought she was dead. Thus, I didn't choose this because I didn't want AJ to die and also wanted the Illuminati exposed.
Basically when it comes down to it there was something I liked about each of them, which is what the game intended, making the decision all that more difficult. Word of advice, save your game before making your first decision so you can go back and select each ending. (Plus you get an achievement). Also, there is a little something after the credits you'll get to see if you have the patience to sit through them.
I love games that actually make you think.Personally I chose Sarif's. You DO lie slightly and put the blame on the anti-aug organizations (douches) but it also paves the way to continue technological advancement, and honestly who cares about those bastards. Over time humans have evolved and always been able to use their creative and innovative minds to come up with new solutions for arising conflicts/problems. Technology and human advancement will always be around, its not going anywhere, hence why I chose this path.
I liked Darrow's for the mere fact that it was the truth, whole truth, and nothing but. This truth brought exposure of the Illuminati (assholes) and their dreams of human enslavement. I did NOT like the fact that it would make the people who already had augs become outcasts, what's done is done, past is past. This would also pave the way for more illegal activity for blackmarket augs and cause far more crime than previously.
Let's face it, we all hated Taggart the first time we met him in David's office. He's an arrogant douchebag know-it-all who thinks he is supreme. I wasn't about to lie for Taggart's ass and not expose the Illuminati. The only point that stood out to me is that everything does need regulation so it will not get out of hand, which brings me to.....
Self DESTRUCTO!!! This option was my second choice because of the fact that the people's lives would be in THEIR own hands. Humans have always had control over big decisions and always seem to choose correctly, for the most part. Not letting the people know about the dickhole Illuminati isn't ideal but ignorance is bliss I suppose. I wasn't about to wish death upon Mr. AJ. Plus he still needs to ask Megan if she is down for the aug penis, considering he thought she was dead. Thus, I didn't choose this because I didn't want AJ to die and also wanted the Illuminati exposed.
Basically when it comes down to it there was something I liked about each of them, which is what the game intended, making the decision all that more difficult. Word of advice, save your game before making your first decision so you can go back and select each ending. (Plus you get an achievement). Also, there is a little something after the credits you'll get to see if you have the patience to sit through them.
I think the fact that there is a non-secret Achievement, or even an achievement at all, for doing all of them ruins the weight of the endings, as in the end I just saved beforehand and plan on doing them all to get 50g.
However, if I could only make one choice for the whole game, I'd choose Sarif's.
Augmentation technology is here, it's here to stay, you can't reverse it's existence as much as Darrow wanted to, and you can't regulate it too heavily as Taggart wanted to, so logical option for me was to calm fear and proceed into the inevitable new age of Augmentation.
However, I agreed with Taggart that regulation should exist, to some extent, in the same way gun laws are regulated, but only for the potentially dangerous Augs.
Things like increased strength/speed/etc shouldn't be regulated, as there are exeptionally strong/quick normal humans too, that's like saying the average man can go to the gym, but he can't have too much muscle. Ridiculous.
I did love the ending, I was wondering how Adam would end up affecting the entire human race, and it kept me guessing and was satisfying.
Final boss fights were shit, though.
Took out Namir with 3 Grenade Launcher shots...
They should've been more than just 'Shoot repeatedly in any way possible until dead'; like you should've had to figure out one of a few specific ways to kill them, for example luring the boss into an electrical field and then short-circuiting them.
Apart from the girl, they were just 'Use explosives at start'.
Still sucks that you couldn't either talk them out of violence or avoid them altogether, as is the style with the rest of the game.
However, if I could only make one choice for the whole game, I'd choose Sarif's.
Augmentation technology is here, it's here to stay, you can't reverse it's existence as much as Darrow wanted to, and you can't regulate it too heavily as Taggart wanted to, so logical option for me was to calm fear and proceed into the inevitable new age of Augmentation.
However, I agreed with Taggart that regulation should exist, to some extent, in the same way gun laws are regulated, but only for the potentially dangerous Augs.
Things like increased strength/speed/etc shouldn't be regulated, as there are exeptionally strong/quick normal humans too, that's like saying the average man can go to the gym, but he can't have too much muscle. Ridiculous.
I did love the ending, I was wondering how Adam would end up affecting the entire human race, and it kept me guessing and was satisfying.
Final boss fights were shit, though.
Took out Namir with 3 Grenade Launcher shots...
They should've been more than just 'Shoot repeatedly in any way possible until dead'; like you should've had to figure out one of a few specific ways to kill them, for example luring the boss into an electrical field and then short-circuiting them.
Apart from the girl, they were just 'Use explosives at start'.
Still sucks that you couldn't either talk them out of violence or avoid them altogether, as is the style with the rest of the game.
There's only one ending in Human Revolution. Some shit goes down on Panchea, people seem to forget about it inside a year, events progress to the original Deus Ex.
And this is (IMO) the worst failing of the game - lack of a meaningful choice. The only choice that I really got to make and that felt "significant" was when I stayed around to save Malik. The other choices come down to "kill a dude and get nothing or save/spare a dude and he gives you free shit later on". Gee, I wonder which I will pick. At least with Malik I had to risk my arse and go into the middle of a massive firefight to do the right thing. She doesn't pay me, I don't benefit from that decision at all. In fact, stealth characters on Give Me Deus Ex might have genuine problems with that fight if they aren't chock full of guns and grenades. It's a rare moment where the "good" choice costs you more than the "evil" choice.
And this is (IMO) the worst failing of the game - lack of a meaningful choice. The only choice that I really got to make and that felt "significant" was when I stayed around to save Malik. The other choices come down to "kill a dude and get nothing or save/spare a dude and he gives you free shit later on". Gee, I wonder which I will pick. At least with Malik I had to risk my arse and go into the middle of a massive firefight to do the right thing. She doesn't pay me, I don't benefit from that decision at all. In fact, stealth characters on Give Me Deus Ex might have genuine problems with that fight if they aren't chock full of guns and grenades. It's a rare moment where the "good" choice costs you more than the "evil" choice.
I went with self distruct. The idea was about as american as you can be. Leave no corperation to lead the people but let them decide for themselves as a conglomerate. I chose this over Darrows even though it is tecnicly lying because hiding the truth is the same as lying but either way it was the corperations causing the issue so removing all obsticles all together sounds the best, although sarif's was tempting =p.
I was sorely tempted on my first play through to hit the Self Destruct, but that game's Jensen was so anti violence (I saved Malik non-lethally, that wasn't so easy) that it didn't fit with his character, so I went with Darrow. Truth will out. Second playthrough Jensen was a bit more of a killer, so I followed my heart and destroyed the whole damn thing, just like I did with Tracer Tong in Deus Ex.
Funny thing the saving of Malik, it had the same affect on me as Paul in Deus Ex. In both cases I did what they told me and about thirty minutes later I felt bad about it and had to load an old save game to try and rescue them.
Funny thing the saving of Malik, it had the same affect on me as Paul in Deus Ex. In both cases I did what they told me and about thirty minutes later I felt bad about it and had to load an old save game to try and rescue them.