Poll: Who Do You Think is Best RPGs Between Bioware, Square Enix, and Bethesda?

[MikailCaboose]

Bethesda. While story in RPG's is important, I just love the worlds that are created (specifically Morrowind, which really loved its politics).

 

[Gluzzbung]

Unfortunately, Bethesda, for me, seems to have few new ideas.

Bethesda: "Hey, we made a game thats sort of like warhammer but with less depth, a buggy choice system, a mathmatically calculated combat system and a bad setting and characters, let's make this two hundred thousand times." Yeah, some of the later games improved but the settings are the same in every game really with only two or three unique zones and the combat, though more fluid, is still a fight or flight system after you find out how strong the enemy is against your shield.

Square Enix I like but again, a certain lack of ideas rescently, so everything FF10+, but the gameplay is what you paid for, it always has new settings, characters and a descently balanced combat system which you could run pretty well, but Bioware just seem to be better, though all their games are more tactical than D'age 2.

Which brings me to Bioware, my favourite boon of RPGs. Maybe it's because they only have a few titles out but at least they take the time to develop their ideas and add things to the last game in the series, though I don't know what happened with D'age 2, they must have lost their planning sheet down the back of the sofa or something, but their games are nicelyy tactical, if a little difficult. Wait... scratch that, very difficult, but it makes sure you pay attention and out of Bioware and Bethesda, being the only two with a WORKING speach mechanic, Bioware have the better, with jucier voice acting and more influencial choice of opinions.

 

[A Weakgeek]

Old Bioware, the time of Kotor. Nowdays? Well possibly bethesda, atleast they release games that are enjoyable for me.

 

[Durgiun]

Bethesda and BioWare are like Ass or Tits. Both are awesome for different reasons, but are still part of the same thing. To me, both of them are pure win.

Square Enix. Haven't played anything of theirs since FFXII, so I can't really count them into the equation. They're like the feet to me. Some like them, some don't. Personally, don't feel strongly, I just ignore them.

 

[FinalHeart95]

I enjoy Squeenix RPGs more than the other two, to be honest. Mass Effect was good and all, but Kingdom Hearts is my favorite game ever, and I quite like a few of the Final Fantasy installments as well. I will say I have yet to play a Bethesda game though, so I guess my opinion isn't entirely valid yet.

 

[Theron Julius]

Bioware > Bethesda > Square Enix

Tough choice, but Bioware does good work as a whole. You can generally depend on them to make a nice, solid RPG.

 

[TornadoFive]

To me, an RPG is a game where you have some input into your character. Some games have more than others, some games focus on certain aspects of your character. But Square Enix don't really allow you to do this. You play as the character the game gives you, going where the game tells you to, making the choices the game tells you to. There's no interaction from the player, apart from the combat and movement.

So then it's mostly an issue of customization and sandboxyness?

taking FF12 for example, I don't feel like I have no input into the characters just because I can't pick their names or appearance. I can still decide how to build them , how to use them, I still imagine an internal dynamic for my party, I still imbue my version of a given character with a personality different than that of other players' version.

maybe the role playing doesn't count because a large portion of it is internal to me rather than overtly included into game assets? do I find/create role-playing where there is none because I grew up playing pen&paper RPGs?

is Eye of the Beholder no longer an RPG? it certainly didn't give you more choices than a modern "JRPG"

To me, it's not about names, or appearance's. That's just extra, a little bit of immersion boosting. For me, it's about what I can do with the character once I'm in control. Can I choose to do this quest, or one that involves doing the opposite? Can I control how I fight? How I react to situations? How I interact with other people in the world? When playing an RPG, I either want to play as I would, or create a totally new character and play as they would. In my experience, Square Enix doesn't give you those options.

Perhaps your pen-and-paper background gives you an advantage when playing RPG's. But by that argument, you could apply a background, history, and dynamic for the characters in the latest CoD game and, for you, it would be an RPG.

And I've never played Eye of the Beholder, so I can't make comments on it.

 

[Plazmatic]

LOL what? fallout new vegas buddy, just as un-choice full as bethesdas fallout 3 if now more un choicy

That didn't make any sense at all.

ah, well that's your fault for making weird comments that, as well, don't make a Iota of sense. Also I see you yourself realised this since you failed to include your own comment in the quote. Please refrain from posting unless you are sincerely trying to contribute to the thread

Thank you.

 

[Continuity]

well... bioware dont make RPG's anymore and I dont think i've played a square enix game )ok so I have but not many)

Bethesda wins by default.

 

[YamadaJisho]

Square has been loosing its touch ever since the Playstation came out, and I really haven't enjoyed the Elder Scrolls games, so I'm gonna go with Bioware. After all, I've throughly enjoyed KOTOR and Dragon Age so far...

 

[DazBurger]

Would have said Bioware without any hesitation.... I would! Honestly... But they seem to have been chained up and medicated by EA, in order to produce moar money.

Maybe Mass Effect 3 will convince me otherwise, but I fear it wont.

 

[crazie_soviet]

they all do RPG's in a different style to another so you can just compare them that cut and dry if i had to be honest. and truthfully I've liked games from each because of something that makes them different from the others

 

[Mandalore_15]

Really warms my heart to see how badly the J-"rpg's" are failing...

 

[Chelsea O'shea]

so its a choice between bethesda and bioware,as square does not make RPG's in my opinion as none have choice involved. JRPG's are not RPG's,they need a different genre title.

 

[Semitendon]

Feel free to suggest a modern RPG that was better. Keep in mind that I do not play JRPG's.

Fallout: New Vegas, it actually lets you choose who you want to fight for, that automatically makes it a better RPG (that's: role playing game) than Oblivion.

I am glad you said that, at the very least, I can respect your answer.

I did play Fallout: New Vegas, and I did think the game was pretty good. Unfortunatly, the game was broken and glitchy. I started playing that game, and every 3 hours, the game would freeze up my x-box.

Eventually it got so bad, I couldn't play it because the x-box would freeze up the second I tried to play it.

Now knowing that I enjoy RPG's, and knowing my x-box was getting old, I went and bought a brand new x-box ( $ 300) just so I could continue playing that one game. Again, the game caused my brand new x-box to freeze up. I never got to finish New Vegas.

I am not upset about the money I spent on the new x-box, I needed to upgrade to a bigger memory, and the old x-box did freeze up occasionally when I played games other than New Vegas.
But, I think I have shown why I didn't include New Vegas as a "better" to Oblivion.

It's like watching a movie, Oblivion's wasn't quite as in-depth as New Vegas, but at least with Oblivion I didn't have to get up every few moments and reset everything.

If you actually got to finish New Vegas, then I envy you.

 

[GrandmaFunk]

I wonder if this whole "jrpg != rpg" issue is really an age thing.

by the arguments made so far, RPGs apparently didn't exist prior to 2000 because none existed that offered the range of choices currently available in modern games.

 

[RedDeadFred]

Mass Effect... Oblivion.... Mass Effect 2...Skyrim....

There is no answer.

I am also this conflicted.
I just couldn't vote.

 

[Kizi]

Bethesda. I like Bioware but I think Bethesda just add much more RPG elements into their games than Bioware.

 

[floobie]

Bioware, Square Enix, Bethesda. In that order.

Bioware pushes all the right buttons for me. Perfect blend of story and non-linearity. Square knows how to tell an awesome story, sometimes at the expense of gameplay. Bethesda is pretty great too, but I find their games too open-ended for their own good.

 

[C95J]

I played Mass Effect, and had very mixed feelings about it, some days I liked it, other days I hated it. Overall I never really enjoyed it as much as I wanted too. The Mass Effect series is just not for me.

Never played a Final Fantasy game, mainly because I don't like that type of gameplay. I will never play a Final Fantasy game as well. Sorry Square Enix fans

I have always been in love with Bethesda games. Fallout 3 and Oblivion were absolutely fantastic, and I cannot wait for Skyrim!