Poll: Who really wants a new console?

[RatRace123]

I do, but I'm far too poor to afford a new console right now.
That's really my only reason for not wanting a new generation.

Still, when it comes I'll eventually embrace it.

 

[OldNewNewOld]

There needs to be a new generation soon.
The current gen. is to limited to be of any real use.

And I'm not talking about graphics.
People always forget that the power of a console isn't only the power to render many polygons. The current gen is to limited on ram. Small worlds, no real open worlds (and if they make one, they have to do some ninja coding to constantly load/unload parts of the world which are to far, which uses then the processing power), AI...


I like where the WiiU is going. It should be around 50% stronger than the PS3 in processing power, but it should have a lot more memory which should allow huge open worlds and challenging AI.
Challenging AI isn't the current, cheating one that constantly knows where you are and has aim hacks. In the current generation, difficulty doesn't affect that "smartness" of the enemies. It usually just affects the number of bullets/attacks they need to take you down.

EDIT: According to captcha, I'm a spam bot. I seriously can't read half the shit. :S

 

[Asuka Soryu]

II love new consoles, new technology. Wouldn't want the machines to stagnate, they've already reached their limit.

Besides, this means that with new consoles the old ones will have price cuts before they're removed from the store. Wich means I can pick them up more easily.

 

[ShotgunZombie]

As I read more and more of this thread I've come to realize something. The ones who want a new generation are the PC gamers and the ones who don't are the console gamers. I think that statement speaks for itself. It's rather arrogant to ask for a product that you're not going to spend money on yourself. But perhaps I'm being harsh and over-simplifying things. If I am then I apologize but I personally don't see the need for new consoles. An argument I keep seeing being made over and over again on this thread is that this console generation has passed its prime and is dragging down the technology with it, and perhaps that is true but is that really such a big deal? I mean, big complex games have been made before and personally I don't see the production of these games slowing down at all. After all just look at some of this year's biggest games; Max Payne 3, Bioshock Infinite, Twisted Metal, Mass Effect 3 among others. They all look stunning and if the gameplay videos can be trusted then the gameplay is just as awe inspiring. And do you know what? They are all just fine on this generation. Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to impede progress but maybe we should wait for everybody to be on the same page before we plunge into the next generation, eh?

 

[Westaway]

I have mixed feelings. For one, Microsoft just got the new dashboard out the door, and it's all very fancy and nice. Graphics seem fine to me, I guess I just can't visualise them being any bettee than what they are now, doesn't seem possible. Also, some of my favorite games are this generation (CoD 4, Halo 3, Fallout 3, Transformers: War for Cybertron) and the chances of ke playing them again when I have the new one set up are slim. However, new consols are are exciting and I enjoy finding out what new features/gimmicks they're put in it. And hopefully xbox gets some new exclusives, we have like 4.

 

[chadachada123]

We need some more goddamn memory up in this *****.

That a game like Dark Souls can lag in Blightown shows just how dated both the PS3 and 360 are as far as memory and processing power goes. It's 6/7 year old hardware, dammit!

 

[applesandoranges]

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[Signa]

Since very little has been accomplished this generation that could not have been done on the previous generation I say NO! This generation has shown that graphical fidelity is more important than making an engaging experience. I see no reason to push to the next generation without some REAL promise of new, and inventive things that comes with it.

Processing power alone will not be enough to convince me. Until you can show me that a developer is going to use that extra power to make their game extra fun, then it will be 100% wasted money. What will happen is that extra power will be used to make their game look extra pretty, and that's all anyone will care about.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm sick of paying $60 for 5-10 hour wank tissues. Yank, wipe, throw away so you can buy the next one. Using all that extra power is going to come at a price, and it's our wallets that are going to see the punishment for it.

 

[Hungry Donner]

As a PC gamer (although one, I'll note, that doesn't have a terribly powerful computer) I'd like to see a new console generation come out. I'm not terribly concerned about graphics so much as RAM and processing power. At this point consoles just can't juggle as well as computers, and the ability to handle better AI, larger environments, and more complex physics would help raise the bar on this side as well.

This would no doubt require that I get a new computer, which I can't afford at the moment. Although if MS or Sony made keyboard+mouse controls as a standard option I'd give their system serious consideration. (And if they decided to embrace user-made mods I think they'd win over a lot of PC gamers, and the larger audience would probably balance any loss of DLC revenue.)

 

[infohippie]

All it could mean is even more obsession with graphics and a more expensive system when the PS3 and 360 are doing just fine as it is. Having a slightly faster processor or better graphics isn't some groundbreaking example of progress, it just means less innovation as games become more and more difficult to program, and the massive teams that make big-budget games sap away creative control from the industry.

Faster CPU and better graphics would be nice, but what really cripples current-gen consoles is RAM. A new generation is needed just so developers can use more RAM and not have to try to squeeze everything into the ridiculously small amount a console has. That would make a huge difference in what can be done with a console game. Massive open areas, less linearity, more variation, better AI, more complex environments, greater ability for a player to manipulate the environment. All that would be enabled by simply putting a couple gig of RAM in a new console generation even if all the rest of the hardware was exactly the same.

 

[Windcaler]

With the announcement of a new Xbox (and possibly Playstation, though I've heard rumors of Sony not debuting a new console), I have to ask; why? Why do we need another console? I've become accustomed to the way my Xbox360 works and do not look forward to having to upgrade to the new Xbox(720?). Maybe I'm just the odd man out on this issue, but I feel like so much more could be done with the current technology.

By the way, a lot of this comes from my hatred of Kinect, and for some reason I feel that the new Xbox will use a lot of the motion feature, which would be a deal breaker for me.

So, what do you want? The current generation, or the next?

The short of it is that current consoles are working off of parts that are 7 years old. Many developers have already had to use a lot of tricks to render enough graphical power out of consoles to stay in line with PCs. As a primarily PC player Im noticing that consoles are just lacking the processing power that games need in todays market.

Theres a good example of the console limitations in Dark souls (which I play on Xbox). Theres a place in blighttown where these giant leeches appear and they drop large titanite shards which are needed to upgrade a lot of gear. However after Ive gone in and killed them all, as I walk out and see blighttown in its entirity there is a major drop in frames per second. So much so that it becomes nearly unplayable unless I look at a wall or my feet. Ive seen similar moments in Skyrim (on Xbox) and infamous 2 (on PS3). However I dont get these problems with my PC even when i set all graphics to maximum but to be fair I have a rig that has pretty much state of the art equipment in it while consoles have 7 year old equipment

I think its time for the next console generation and delaying it much longer will make PC games too far ahead in processing power. As long as the companies dont screw up the backwards compatibility (like they did for the current generation) Ill still get the new versions (assuming there are a lot of exclusives I want to play)

 

[Furioso]

Maybe I'm just the odd man out on this issue, but I feel like so much more could be done with the current technology.

No way, that is pretty much wrong by fact, the only reason games these days have seemingly better graphics is by them cutting corners (such as the low field of view in CoD MW3, which limits what's on screen at any given time), which they have gotten very good at over the years, but think about it, would you trust the technology in a PC from 2003?

 

[DustyDrB]

Yeah, it's time. It's passed time, actually. The consoles of a previous gen can be supported a good while after the new generation has begun. Look at the PS2. You don't have to buy a console on launch. I certainly won't, as I don't see the point in buying a gaming machine until it has enough games to justify a purchase (the magic number for me: 12). Start the new generation, the cheap and patient ones of us can abstain for buying them until we're ready.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Personally, I hate it every time a new console generation comes around. Just as I've gotten comfortable with the current line of consoles and stuff, they go the throw all that out the window and bring out the new stuff which I usually can't afford right away; and by the time I can, out comes the next one. So no, I'm not looking forward to any new fucking consoles.

 

[Shoggoth2588]

While I fear change I don't think I would deny it. I loved my Xbox but I jumped on the 360 band-wagon pretty damn quick. The main thing that I'm worried about though is the possibility of consoles requiring an internet connection to play games and, games themselves no longer being on a physical medium. When I buy a game I want something to show for it after all. Other than that change is generally...well, hit or miss honestly. I can't wait for the Wii-U because even though there's a strong emphasis on motion controls you can't ignore the stick/button layout on the tablet, always a good sign I'd say. I'm a bit worried about what the new Xbox will be though...the 360 controller is generally regarded as a top-3 controller of all time and the rumors of a kinect-exclusive console is a bit worrying. That's all I've got though, honestly.

 

[Waaghpowa]

Yes, Sweet zombie Jesus yes. I want devs to start pushing boundaries again. I'm tired of games using DX9. Not to mention all the other reasons regarding processing power, cost etc.

 

[Rad Party God]

Consoles desperately need an upgrade. They can keep a similar architecture they already have, just beef them up a bit, mainly more video and ram memory, c'mon, the 360 has 512 mb of ram and my crappy PC has 3 gb.

I'd say that they need to keep the architecture similar, just upgrade a couple of things and you're done!, better and crispier games for another 10 years!.

 

[The_Blue_Rider]

Because new consoles are fucking expensive, and the worlds still sort of in that recession.
Also current gen games can go for another solid 2 years, 2014 seems like a reasonable amount of time to introduce a new generation of consoles.
Also it seems the only people who want new consoles are PC gamers, and their only justification is usually just "better graphics" We've reached that point where we dont necessarily need better graphics because most games already look amazing.

 

[infohippie]

Consoles desperately need an upgrade. They can keep a similar architecture they already have, just beef them up a bit, mainly more video and ram memory, c'mon, the 360 has 512 mb of ram and my crappy PC has 3 gb.

I'd say that they need to keep the architecture similar, just upgrade a couple of things and you're done!, better and crispier games for another 10 years!.

Ten?! God, no. Consoles should have a life cycle of no more than five years.

 

[Astoria]

I do and I don't want a new one. With the rage about motion controls I'm worried that they might become the selling point for the next gen and I really don't like motion controls. But having more power will give developers more room to make better games so that's a definitely plus.