Poll: Who really wants a new console?

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Windcaler

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The_Blue_Rider said:
Because new consoles are fucking expensive, and the worlds still sort of in that recession.
Also current gen games can go for another solid 2 years, 2014 seems like a reasonable amount of time to introduce a new generation of consoles.
Also it seems the only people who want new consoles are PC gamers, and their only justification is usually just "better graphics" We've reached that point where we dont necessarily need better graphics because most games already look amazing.
Actually, the reason I want new ones is more to do with processing power and I play games on my PC when I have the choice to. When current games make the consoles chug, despite all the tricks used to render less like narrow FoV and large portions of a screen being covered up by weapons consoles still slow down to near unplayable levels when graphical rendering is pushed.

This is not a "better graphics" argument as much as it is a "consoles need more processing power" argument
 

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Windcaler said:
The_Blue_Rider said:
Because new consoles are fucking expensive, and the worlds still sort of in that recession.
Also current gen games can go for another solid 2 years, 2014 seems like a reasonable amount of time to introduce a new generation of consoles.
Also it seems the only people who want new consoles are PC gamers, and their only justification is usually just "better graphics" We've reached that point where we dont necessarily need better graphics because most games already look amazing.
Actually, the reason I want new ones is more to do with processing power and I play games on my PC when I have the choice to. When current games make the consoles chug, despite all the tricks used to render less like narrow FoV and large portions of a screen being covered up by weapons consoles still slow down to near unplayable levels when graphical rendering is pushed.

This is not a "better graphics" argument as much as it is a "consoles need more processing power" argument
Notice how I used the word usually. I know that theres a good reason for PC gamers to want a new console but in most cases it usually amounts to them wanting better graphics.
Also as a console gamer its hard to feel sympathy for PC gamers, I dont want you guys to the short end of the stick, but I really dont have the cash to buy a new console anytime soon
 

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because once a new generation of consoles come out games that can actually USE the hardware us pc gamers have, will be more common... for a few years...
 

synulia

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A new hardware generation means games get EVEN MORE expensive to make, meaning more rehashes, less innovation, and oodles of overpriced DLC. Fuck it, I'll just stick with the indie scene.
/hipster
 

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The_Blue_Rider said:
Windcaler said:
The_Blue_Rider said:
Because new consoles are fucking expensive, and the worlds still sort of in that recession.
Also current gen games can go for another solid 2 years, 2014 seems like a reasonable amount of time to introduce a new generation of consoles.
Also it seems the only people who want new consoles are PC gamers, and their only justification is usually just "better graphics" We've reached that point where we dont necessarily need better graphics because most games already look amazing.
Actually, the reason I want new ones is more to do with processing power and I play games on my PC when I have the choice to. When current games make the consoles chug, despite all the tricks used to render less like narrow FoV and large portions of a screen being covered up by weapons consoles still slow down to near unplayable levels when graphical rendering is pushed.

This is not a "better graphics" argument as much as it is a "consoles need more processing power" argument
Notice how I used the word usually. I know that theres a good reason for PC gamers to want a new console but in most cases it usually amounts to them wanting better graphics.
Also as a console gamer its hard to feel sympathy for PC gamers, I dont want you guys to the short end of the stick, but I really dont have the cash to buy a new console anytime soon
Then suck it up, so what if YOU don't have the cash right now, just don't buy it till you do. Just because you personally cannot get something RIGHT NOW shouldn't be a reason to make those who can get one right away and those who have even a basic gaming computer, who've had to keep playing a majority of games made for hardware from 2004, be unable to enjoy the emergence a new generation in console technology.
 

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Not yet. I'm still enjoying xbox live and don't want to waste money on a console when we could wait for something better.
 

Windcaler

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The_Blue_Rider said:
Windcaler said:
The_Blue_Rider said:
Because new consoles are fucking expensive, and the worlds still sort of in that recession.
Also current gen games can go for another solid 2 years, 2014 seems like a reasonable amount of time to introduce a new generation of consoles.
Also it seems the only people who want new consoles are PC gamers, and their only justification is usually just "better graphics" We've reached that point where we dont necessarily need better graphics because most games already look amazing.
Actually, the reason I want new ones is more to do with processing power and I play games on my PC when I have the choice to. When current games make the consoles chug, despite all the tricks used to render less like narrow FoV and large portions of a screen being covered up by weapons consoles still slow down to near unplayable levels when graphical rendering is pushed.

This is not a "better graphics" argument as much as it is a "consoles need more processing power" argument
Notice how I used the word usually. I know that theres a good reason for PC gamers to want a new console but in most cases it usually amounts to them wanting better graphics.
Also as a console gamer its hard to feel sympathy for PC gamers, I dont want you guys to the short end of the stick, but I really dont have the cash to buy a new console anytime soon
I understand that. I just wanted to give an alternative to what you considered the normal argument for new consoles.

With the speed that computer technology develops however I highly doubt we will see longer console generations then this one. IMO this one even ran on a little to long and it made console exclusives suffer for it. Five year intervals between new consoles seems about right to keep everything up to date and not fall into the territory of obsolete technology for the games of the current era
 

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DoomyMcDoom said:
The_Blue_Rider said:
Windcaler said:
The_Blue_Rider said:
Because new consoles are fucking expensive, and the worlds still sort of in that recession.
Also current gen games can go for another solid 2 years, 2014 seems like a reasonable amount of time to introduce a new generation of consoles.
Also it seems the only people who want new consoles are PC gamers, and their only justification is usually just "better graphics" We've reached that point where we dont necessarily need better graphics because most games already look amazing.
Actually, the reason I want new ones is more to do with processing power and I play games on my PC when I have the choice to. When current games make the consoles chug, despite all the tricks used to render less like narrow FoV and large portions of a screen being covered up by weapons consoles still slow down to near unplayable levels when graphical rendering is pushed.

This is not a "better graphics" argument as much as it is a "consoles need more processing power" argument
Notice how I used the word usually. I know that theres a good reason for PC gamers to want a new console but in most cases it usually amounts to them wanting better graphics.
Also as a console gamer its hard to feel sympathy for PC gamers, I dont want you guys to the short end of the stick, but I really dont have the cash to buy a new console anytime soon
Then suck it up, so what if YOU don't have the cash right now, just don't buy it till you do. Just because you personally cannot get something RIGHT NOW shouldn't be a reason to make those who can get one right away and those who have even a basic gaming computer, who've had to keep playing a majority of games made for hardware from 2004, be unable to enjoy the emergence a new generation in console technology.
Yes god forbid Id rather come out with the better deal, what a stupid way of thinking that no one else shares obviously. Its not just me, a lot of console gamers dont want a new system because they dont have the money and theyre fine with the games we have now.

Besides a new console generation wouldnt really change anything Im betting, it would be good for a year or so then PC gamers would be back to crying about how much console gaming is holding them back, not just that but its also a bad business decision for companies like Sony and Microsoft, can they really risk selling a new console, knowing fully well theres a good chance of it completely bombing? May I remind you that for the majority of its life the PS3 has actually been making a loss? The only thing that would definitely change things for PC gamers is if more developers started making PC exclusive games, and if C ports were made with a PC in mind.
 

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Do i care if they come out with the next generation consoles soon? No.
Would i spend my money on them if they come out? Absolutely not.

Every single game ive played on the 360/PS3 has been a disappointment for me, especially after the awesome games on the ps2 (and some for the xbox, although never got into many games there...except for kotor, i love you!!!). The next generation, especially when they first come out, will not have any games that interest me, and if they do, will most likely be too concerned with "harnessing the power" of the new shiny console.

Here's hoping that im suprised by the games for the new consoles, but im not holding my breath. Besides, i have a gaming computer, so im good :D
 

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the xbox will never be called xbox720 becouse that would suggest that it would only display images of 720p. so its time for thAt to stop
 

TechieBoy

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Console upgrades help the developers and inspire them to make better games every year. This also means that it helps consoles get new concepts like motion sensing and simulation.
 

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ShotgunZombie said:
As I read more and more of this thread I've come to realize something. The ones who want a new generation are the PC gamers and the ones who don't are the console gamers. I think that statement speaks for itself. It's rather arrogant to ask for a product that you're not going to spend money on yourself. But perhaps I'm being harsh and over-simplifying things. If I am then I apologize but I personally don't see the need for new consoles. An argument I keep seeing being made over and over again on this thread is that this console generation has passed its prime and is dragging down the technology with it, and perhaps that is true but is that really such a big deal? I mean, big complex games have been made before and personally I don't see the production of these games slowing down at all. After all just look at some of this year's biggest games; Max Payne 3, Bioshock Infinite, Twisted Metal, Mass Effect 3 among others. They all look stunning and if the gameplay videos can be trusted then the gameplay is just as awe inspiring. And do you know what? They are all just fine on this generation. Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to impede progress but maybe we should wait for everybody to be on the same page before we plunge into the next generation, eh?
I think your missing the point about exclusives. I made a point to mention Dark souls earlier which you can not get on PC without pirating a copy. Now I really like Dark souls, for me its a really fun game with a really tough but fair difficulty curve that goes back to the old days of gaming where every insect, person, and blade of grass was trying to kill you. However I can not play it on my PC without doing something illegal even though it is easily the superior machine. So I play it on my XBOX, meaning Im still using the XBOX as a product I purchased and does not live up to my personal needs of a gaming machine.

As a consumer I have the right to speak up and say this console isnt meeting my needs anymore because it doesnt have the processing power to run the game at its peak. It gets worse in even more intense games like battlefield 3 where split second decisions and reactions are required but the console limitations impede my experience (and I play Battlefield 3 on XBOX as well because I refuse to install origin on my PC). There are some tricks to increase processing power like narrowing Field of View but for some player (myself included) narrow FoV can lead to physical illness. This is why I cant play MW3 at all, its narrow FoV makes me feel sick after about five minutes

People can feel free to disagree with me but the argument I make is far more complex then "Im a PC gamer". The short of it is, as a consumer who owns these machines I continue to find them lacking for the exclusives that I have bought and want to play.
 

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I don't understand why people are all up in arms over Sony supposedly not following their "10 year plan". If they announced something now, it'd be out sometime in the next 2 years and then would cause the PS3 to take a back seat to the new kid the same way the PS2 was forced to a few years ago. It'd coast its way through the rest of the "10 years" the same way the PS2 did with its last few.

Personally, I didn't have much stake in this console generation, so a new batch of consoles might be nice to see although with the economy still not being what it used to be I don't know if it will be the most intelligent course of action to release something like that now.
 

Rodrigo Girao

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I'm still playing on the Gamecube and the Dreamcast, and won't get an X360 until it's as cheap as they are. :p
 

Safe in the Dark

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I only play Indie games, Doujin games, the occasional sequel to a franchise I like, and jrpgs, as far as I'm concerned, things are just fine.
 

WolfThomas

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I'll buy a new X-box if it has reverse compatibility, because really a lot of the games I have on Xbox are still great and could benefit from a faster system.

Also reverse compatible controllers etc.
 

Reaper195

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When everything else is better in video games, I will want a new console. Until then, stop bringing out fucking sequels.
 

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xshadowscreamx said:
the xbox will never be called xbox720 becouse that would suggest that it would only display images of 720p. so its time for thAt to stop
xbox720+..?
 

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As a PC gamer, I am dying for a new console generation, preferably with a very beefy hardware upgrade. The hardware in consoles nowadays is an absolute joke.
I say release new consoles and have them be as powerful as humanly possible. I would like my PC to finally be able to stretch its legs.
 

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RickyRich said:
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Because, if everyone thought like you, we'd still be playing Super Mario Bro's style games. Technology advancement would stagnate.
boundaries currently set by the console limitations.
I'm not saying to stay on this generation forever, but definitely give it some more time to live out its usefulness. It just seems like it has a couple more good years left in it.
Even after all the bitching console players did due to Skyrim? You do realize that was 100% a hardware problem, 256mb of dedicated RAM is just ridiculous for todays games.