Poll: who won at E3?
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Its clearly a 2 horse race because MS bombed so hard its not even funny.
Personally i feel that the Move is what many hardcore gamers want in a motion control gaming system (yes i know many hard core gamers dislike motion controls). PS3 hardware + move being the better gaming system than the Wii. Of course Nintendo has a much bigger install base so i wouldn't expect any major losses in sales for Nintendo. The Natal is 100% a casual toy (using a controller and natal at the same time is basically impossible so no hardcore motion games on 360). Also PS3 having 3D gaming is going to give a huge edge over the 360 IF 3D TVs start dropping in price so more consumers can afford to buy them.
In terms of games i feel that while Nintendo had the "best" lineup, its sorta cheapened because its the same 6 or 8 IPs Nintendo has been remaking sense the SNES. (seriously no Pikmin?) PS3 had a decent game lineup unlike MS who keeps riding on the success of gears and halo. Natal shovelware looks like crap and at least PS3's motion control lineup have some FPS games (which many gamers wanted from motion controls and the Wii never delivered).
In the handheld market Nintendo won hands down because of there new 3D device.
I personally feel that Sony as the most to gain from the E3 showing because there main competition is MS and with Sony's upcoming lineup of games and a superior motion control system its putting Sony in a great position for growth in the fall. If Sony came out with a price cut to the PSP they might increase there install base enough to matter but with Nintendo unloading a new 3D portable, the PSP doesn't have a chance. With Nintendo they are kinda running there own race and nothing Sony or MS can do will stop there success at pulling big money from the casual market that the Wii opened up. MS really dropped the ball and putting themselves in a bad position for the rest of 2010.
Personally i feel that the Move is what many hardcore gamers want in a motion control gaming system (yes i know many hard core gamers dislike motion controls). PS3 hardware + move being the better gaming system than the Wii. Of course Nintendo has a much bigger install base so i wouldn't expect any major losses in sales for Nintendo. The Natal is 100% a casual toy (using a controller and natal at the same time is basically impossible so no hardcore motion games on 360). Also PS3 having 3D gaming is going to give a huge edge over the 360 IF 3D TVs start dropping in price so more consumers can afford to buy them.
In terms of games i feel that while Nintendo had the "best" lineup, its sorta cheapened because its the same 6 or 8 IPs Nintendo has been remaking sense the SNES. (seriously no Pikmin?) PS3 had a decent game lineup unlike MS who keeps riding on the success of gears and halo. Natal shovelware looks like crap and at least PS3's motion control lineup have some FPS games (which many gamers wanted from motion controls and the Wii never delivered).
In the handheld market Nintendo won hands down because of there new 3D device.
I personally feel that Sony as the most to gain from the E3 showing because there main competition is MS and with Sony's upcoming lineup of games and a superior motion control system its putting Sony in a great position for growth in the fall. If Sony came out with a price cut to the PSP they might increase there install base enough to matter but with Nintendo unloading a new 3D portable, the PSP doesn't have a chance. With Nintendo they are kinda running there own race and nothing Sony or MS can do will stop there success at pulling big money from the casual market that the Wii opened up. MS really dropped the ball and putting themselves in a bad position for the rest of 2010.
You fail to recognise the fact that the Wii's motion control is by far the worst out of all of them and generally unresponsive, even with the 'motion plus' that they sold afterwards costing you 30 pounds for something that could have come with it in the first place, the fact is the Wii remote is bulky with the attachment of the motion plus, dangerous to those around you if you don't wear the irritating little strap and about as useful to the games you play on it as a ash tray is on a motorbike.Anticitizen_Two said:
The fact is Microsoft are the only ones offering something different, more involving and just down right awesome if I'm honest and more-over the 'Play station wand' is a better, if a hell of a lot more uglier, version of the Wii remote. The Wii is being undercut in every way but it will still never lose it's audience of home bound mums trying to get fit and mates coming over to have a laugh.
Don't call me a fan boy because I own all 3.
OT: has anyone else realised the only good games that you can get on the Wii are the ones published BY Nintendo?, why? well I'll tell you, Game development companies with go the extra length to programme for xbox 360 and the PS3 just because it widens their profit and appeals to a greater audience, the Wii however is so easy to programme for that anyone trained to a certain lower level can programme for it, this is why you get the refuse pile that is the stack of games that the Wii has underneath it's belt, digging through the refuse you will find the occasional gem that can be played to the full extent of the Wii's capability, a perfect exsample of this is Mario Galaxy 2.
Interestingly enough, I didn't think MS bombed as hard as people say they did. They did show actual intriguing applications for Kinect like Harmonix's Dance Central. Ubi showed us Q Entertainment's Child of Eden, which is also an interesting game in its own right. And yes, while Kinect is an obvious reaction to the Wii, there's at least an effort to go somewhere else. Move is just, well... an expensive wiimote with a motionplus.
The thing that bothered me about Sony's conference (even more so than with Nintendo's) is that they basically showed a huge bunch of trailers of games that... well, to be honest, I didn't care about. Portal 2? Going to get in on PC. A multiplayer Assassin's Creed? Yeah, I'll pass. Twisted Metal? Always was a Carmageddon guy. Sequels after sequels after sequels. Sorcery was interesting though, Sony obviously needed more of that and less of Killzone 3.
Which brings us to... Nintendo. I personally thought the 3DS was the most interesting part of the show. I was kind of afraid they'd really go for something massively powerful with the 3DS but they kind of didn't. The games look nice but still look cheap enough that we'll see lots of experimental things. Nintendo also suffered from sequelitis but the Kirby's Epic Yarn was a whole new take on the series and we hadn't heard from some of these series since the NES/GB era. All in all, the 3DS means Nintendo obviously came out on top.
The thing that bothered me about Sony's conference (even more so than with Nintendo's) is that they basically showed a huge bunch of trailers of games that... well, to be honest, I didn't care about. Portal 2? Going to get in on PC. A multiplayer Assassin's Creed? Yeah, I'll pass. Twisted Metal? Always was a Carmageddon guy. Sequels after sequels after sequels. Sorcery was interesting though, Sony obviously needed more of that and less of Killzone 3.
Which brings us to... Nintendo. I personally thought the 3DS was the most interesting part of the show. I was kind of afraid they'd really go for something massively powerful with the 3DS but they kind of didn't. The games look nice but still look cheap enough that we'll see lots of experimental things. Nintendo also suffered from sequelitis but the Kirby's Epic Yarn was a whole new take on the series and we hadn't heard from some of these series since the NES/GB era. All in all, the 3DS means Nintendo obviously came out on top.
Capcom has consistently been releasing awesome games on the Wii. Zack & Wiki, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Monster Hunter Tri and Spyborgs for instance. Namco's releases are often good but they aren't nearly as consistent with quality as Capcom is.Lewboi03 said:
But at any rate, there are plenty of good games on the Wii not published by Nintendo. The Wii is like the PS1 of the old: plenty of good games but also there's a whole crapload of shovelware.
If the Wii controls are unresponsive for you, it's a probably with the way you set it up. I have never (really, never) experienced this in the four years I've owned mine. I have to wonder if you've even played a game with the Motion Plus attachment. Like I said, it's gotta be a problem with your setup. At the worst, you were sold a faulty controller.Lewboi03 said:
I don't know who won, and frankly I don't give a fuck.
I do know who lost, that's us, the consumers. We lost like we've been losing for the last couple of years, actual content is swaying for the likes of better graphics and the latest gimmicky fad. If it weren't enough that us gamers are already getting less and less gameplay for our money they also have to dumb down their games to appeal to a broader audience.
I do know who lost, that's us, the consumers. We lost like we've been losing for the last couple of years, actual content is swaying for the likes of better graphics and the latest gimmicky fad. If it weren't enough that us gamers are already getting less and less gameplay for our money they also have to dumb down their games to appeal to a broader audience.
I believe a Starfox title was announced for the 3DS though I don't think we know yet whether its a sequel or a remake.AidoruKami said:
Ugh, I can't be bothered to respond to all of the anti-Nintendo fanboys, especially when all their arguments are the same. It gets tiring. Still, I'll respond to one who actually had an intelligent response (even if it was the same old argument in disguise) and another whose hackneyed, blatantly Yahtzee-stolen post particularly pissed me off.
Enjoy.
Seriously man, Nintendo just does what every developer does. Every single developer just makes sequel after sequel. Microsoft's big titles were a new Halo and a new Gears. Sony was all about LBP2 and Killzone 3. No company (except the indie ones) are actually making new games.
Enjoy.
Name one developer who does not churn out sequels.Programmed_For_Damage said:
Congratulations. That is such a clever argument! Nobody's ever blamed Nintendo for rehashing old games before! How observant! So much thought must have gone into that comment!RMcD94 said:
Seriously man, Nintendo just does what every developer does. Every single developer just makes sequel after sequel. Microsoft's big titles were a new Halo and a new Gears. Sony was all about LBP2 and Killzone 3. No company (except the indie ones) are actually making new games.
No-one 'won'. IMO.
But I don't like Nintendo and enjoyed there's most.
Sony's was good just boring.
Microsoft's was pretty bad IMO.
And I'm a Microsoft supporter.
But I don't like Nintendo and enjoyed there's most.
Sony's was good just boring.
Microsoft's was pretty bad IMO.
And I'm a Microsoft supporter.
I choose sony but it was very close between them and nintendo the epic speech by KB was epic and the anouncement of TM and Valves suprise did it for me. microsoft FAILED!
there not sequels as much milk MILK!Anticitizen_Two said:
but they were good anoucements...
ps. the zelda controls looked ASS!
Nintendo FTW!
Zelda, Donkey Kong Country, Kid Icarus, Kirby, Golden Eye, 3DS, Metroid.
If you don't have a love for classic NIntendo franchises there probably isn't much of interest but I was very happy to see stuff for the Wii that I actually want to play.
Zelda, Donkey Kong Country, Kid Icarus, Kirby, Golden Eye, 3DS, Metroid.
If you don't have a love for classic NIntendo franchises there probably isn't much of interest but I was very happy to see stuff for the Wii that I actually want to play.
did you whatch sony's they had Valves suprise and TM and infamous 2Anticitizen_Two said:
in my view the moition controls where not the biggest anouncement and scince when were 20 rehashes good? 3 or 4 ok but 20? thats called running out of ideas.
You should really quote my original quote and not the one that was edited by some anti-fanboy. I never used the word "rehashes."Fallen-Angel Risen-Demon said:
oh hehe sorry didn't see youre origonal post though still they where all rehashes.Anticitizen_Two said:
I'd have to give it to Sony. Their Move presentation showed that games for multiple audiences can me done with motion control with "Sorcery",and"Tiger Woods 11". Plus it'll cost less the Microsoft's,"Kinect" and $99 altogether. May as well buy a PS Eye now while it's only $30.
Nintendo's lack of actually showing the 3DS really annoyed me. I get that they couldn't show how it worked while I watch it on my PC, but how can they expect me to spend money on something I haven't seen in action? Also, the LoZ Skyward Sword demo had a mass amount of technical issues,which was embarrassing since Miyamoto was the one demonstrating.
Microsoft showed off more mini-games with,"Kinect". The only thing that interested me was The Star Wars game, but then I realized that if it wasn't basically a Star Wars sword fighter, I would not have cared. Also the Cirque de Soliel really has me thinking that Microsoft Jumped the shark. Plus the Kinect has already been sent to GamesStop. My friend who works there showed me that the retail price is $149.99.
Nintendo's lack of actually showing the 3DS really annoyed me. I get that they couldn't show how it worked while I watch it on my PC, but how can they expect me to spend money on something I haven't seen in action? Also, the LoZ Skyward Sword demo had a mass amount of technical issues,which was embarrassing since Miyamoto was the one demonstrating.
Microsoft showed off more mini-games with,"Kinect". The only thing that interested me was The Star Wars game, but then I realized that if it wasn't basically a Star Wars sword fighter, I would not have cared. Also the Cirque de Soliel really has me thinking that Microsoft Jumped the shark. Plus the Kinect has already been sent to GamesStop. My friend who works there showed me that the retail price is $149.99.
Nintendo certainly "won" it for me; I was really thrilled for the 3DS, and it sounds like it's awesome. Also Kirby Wii, and tonnes of games for the 3DS. Lots of _classics_.
When it comes to Sony and Microsoft, I have to say Kinect interests me. I'll probably be alone, but I think it's a really interesting control mechanism. Certainly not for gaming, though, but for a multimedia center of some sort.
Sony, well, I've never been fond of Playstation, and I guess my view is pretty biased here. LBP2 looks interesting, though, and I agree that user-created content is awesome. Also, too much time on 3D and Move (and of these especially the 3D part).
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When it comes to Sony and Microsoft, I have to say Kinect interests me. I'll probably be alone, but I think it's a really interesting control mechanism. Certainly not for gaming, though, but for a multimedia center of some sort.
Sony, well, I've never been fond of Playstation, and I guess my view is pretty biased here. LBP2 looks interesting, though, and I agree that user-created content is awesome. Also, too much time on 3D and Move (and of these especially the 3D part).
Rant ends here.
