Poll: Who's babie?

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Shycte

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This is an interesting moral dilemma.

A teenage girl have gets pregnent with her boyfirend because they didn't use a condom. The girl wants to do an abortion but her boyfriend says no and claims that it is his child as well. Should she be allowed to abort the child?

My personal opinion is no. If she did not want to get pregnent she should have made him wear a condom. She wouldn't need to raise the child though, that would be the boyfriend responsibility because he was the one who refused the abortion.

So yeah, I just wanted to know what you guys think. Abortion is a hot topic and I want the know where everybody stands.
 

Beefcakes

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Ah, abortion, I'm letting you know now, unless everyone starts off with a giant all-caps 'THIS IS MY OPINION YOU CAN'T CHANGE THIS' this is going to turn into a mass argument/flame war really quickly
Just letting you know...

Anyway, and yes, this is just my opinion...
I am a pro choice, to a degree, there need to be a limit on when abortion is not on, some say when it develops consciousness, it should be born and put up for adoption. But when that happens is under debate. When the heart starts beating? When it starts making voluntary movements? Its kind of a moral grey area for me at the moment.
I'll make the decision when it affects me personally...

Note: Once again, yes, this is my opinion, not fact, nor is it an attack on anyone else
I'm not going to argue this to anyone
 

ILPPendant

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Wait a second... the boyfriend didn't wear a condom, got her pregnant and then announced that it was all her fault? Hmm... I could have sworn we were in the year 2009, not 1909.

By the way, is the title an in-joke I'm not aware of? Is it some variation of "How is babby formed?"
 

Inverse Skies

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I am also pro-choice when it comes to abortion as there is a lot of situations when the mother shouldn't be forced to carry a baby to term due to health or social problems. There are always exceptional circumstances which justify the use of abortion and the aborted feotus can always be used for stem cell research, as cruel as that sounds. However, when one considers the diseases stem cell research could potentially cure then the grounds for such research are very strong indeed.
 

SmilingKitsune

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Is there a trickier subject in the world than abortion? There may be, but I'm having a hard time thinking what it is.
Yes they should have used protection, yes they were careless, but should that one mistake be allowed to dictate how her life will develop from here? I'm not certain what I think, I think it's her decision.
 

Rascarin

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Personally, I don't agree with abortions for anything other than medical reasons, or rape.

People shouldn't take the risk of unprotected sex if they don't want to deal with the consequences.

So, no, I don't believe the girl should terminate the child.
 

Baby Tea

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I'm pro choice in the sense that I'm all for people choosing to use protection and birth control.
Unless the birthing of the child will cause the mother irreparable harm, or death, then I'm absolutely against abortion. Especially as a form of 'whoops' birth control. You can agree or disagree all you want, but I've been in these debates many times and I can tell you this right now: You won't change my mind, so I'm not going to get into it with anyone here. That's my position, take it or leave it.
 

Lukeje

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I don't know, who is 'babie'?

...seriously though, if they could find a way for the man to carry the foetus around for 9 months, then yes, it may be his decision. Otherwise, it is the womans choice whether to abort or not.
 

Resistance205

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I don't think she should be allowed, for the main reason that it is also her boyfriends child.
If they both agreed on it, then I would say there wouldn't be a problem with it. But if they disagree, then no. She shouldn't be allowed have the abortion.
 

Trivun

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I'm pro choice, but there are too many instances where the girl wants an abortion and the father doesn't, or the father wants her to have an abortion and the mother refuses. Basically, it needs to be looked at on a case by case basis, always, since one situation may be only slightly different to another yet still cause a major effect on the child's possible upbringing. However, I also think that abortion should only be allowed when both parents agree. If the father isn't there to give approval (like, if it's a one night stand, for instance) then the situation can be taken into account and abortion could be allowed without the father's approval. In general though, it's the father's child too and he should deserve a say.
 

Onyx Oblivion

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I'm pro-life, with two exceptions: Rape, and birth control failure when you already have more children than you can afford to care for.
 

Blow_Pop

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Shycte said:
This is an interesting moral dilemma.

A teenage girl have gets pregnent with her boyfirend because they didn't use a condom. The girl wants to do an abortion but her boyfriend says no and claims that it is his child as well. Should she be allowed to abort the child?

My personal opinion is no. If she did not want to get pregnent she should have made him wear a condom. She wouldn't need to raise the child though, that would be the boyfriend responsibility because he was the one who refused the abortion.

So yeah, I just wanted to know what you guys think. Abortion is a hot topic and I want the know where everybody stands.
She should give it up for adoption. If you don't want a kid give your partner ultimatum. Wear a condom or no sex. simple as that. And if you're like me and carry knives on you threaten them if you have to. (i'm not condoning threats to get what you want though)

My thoughts on abortion is that you shouldn't do it except in these cases:

A. Under 18 (especially if you're 13 or under *shudder*)

B. Rape/Incest

C. Life threatening to mother and/or baby if baby is born

C mostly because if my mom had another child after my bro it would have been either her or the baby that lived.

A lot of pro lifers disagree with me on the topic of rape and incest and say that she should put it up for adoption, but think about the possible emotional and mental scars you could have from it.

Also, THIS IS ENTIRELY MY OPINION AND I DO NOT WISH TO DEBATE MY OPINION. I will answer questions if they are legitimate (ie asking me to explain because I am a little vague and could expand on all three points) but I DO NOT WISH TO BE FLAMED FOR MY OPINION. IT IS WHAT IT IS AND WON'T CHANGE. that is all have a great day
 

Arcticflame

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He doesn't have to go through swollen feet, 9 months of being nauseous and eating weirdly, and carrying the extra weight.

The dumbass boyfriend has no right at all to force her. He can plead his case maybe, but nothing else.

And yes, she should be able to abort.
 

Xaryn Mar

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Unless they are married or living together as registered partners it is her choice whether or not to have an abortion. Since she is a teenager (how old?) she will actually be under-age and I would think the best choice would be an abortion, since she otherwise would have to raise a child while still being no more than an old child herself.
 

rainman2203

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Whatever the state law says is really the deciding factor. Methinks most states would fall on the girl's side, and it is her body that is being affected, not the boy's. Yeah morals play into it but I'm pretty sure it's up to the girl's discretion alone. Roe v. Wade saw to that.

I've always thought of myself as pro-life, but looking at my comment I'm apparently pro-choice. I think there should be requirements to qualifying to get an abortion. Girls shouldn't be rewarded for being promiscuous by being able to have as many abortions as they can afford, but it should be an option for those who don't think it's a great idea to raise a child at that time.

As to the whole "when does life start?" thing, I don't know, you don't know even if you claim to, and frankly I don't see any point in arguing.

/duck and cover
 

Lord Kofun

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Either the guy needs to grow some stones and realize he probably wouldn't be able to raise the child on his own, seeing as how the girl doesn't want to have any part in it.

Or, the girl needs to realize that she shouldn't just scrape her mistakes away. If you take the money, you keep the change.
 

Rivana

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Lukeje said:
I don't know, who is 'babie'?

...seriously though, if they could find a way for the man to carry the foetus around for 9 months, then yes, it may be his decision. Otherwise, it is the womans choice whether to abort or not.
I'm still trying to figure out what a babie is :(


If we are taking about a baby, well then it is probably her choice as it is her body. I'm not sure why the father would want to have the baby knowing the financial and emotional responsibility he has to it at that point. I'm not a fan of children though so my opinion is probably biased quite a bit.
 

Neonbob

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Ugh. As long as the baby is in the woman, she has the right to choose what she wants to do with it. You can keep that bs argument about "it's an innocent baby! Abortion is murder!" Honestly, it doesn't matter if it's "alive" or not. The way I see it, if the thing is only living because it's attached to another living organism, then the host has final say in what happens. I really wish people would stop trying to tell others what they can and cannot do when it comes to their own bodies.
 

magicmonkeybars

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I got a better one, a woman rapes a man and becomes pregnant of his child, should the man have the right to have her have an abortion ?
 

DeadRow

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ILPPendant said:
Wait a second... the boyfriend didn't wear and condom, got her pregnant and then announced that it was all her fault? Hmm... I could have sworn we were in the year 2009, not 1909.

By the way, is the title an in-joke I'm not aware of? Is it some variation of "How is babby formed?"
It takes two to tango- the OP said nothing that the Boy said he it was her fault just that he has as much right over the child as she does.

As to my opinion, depending on the situation, the girl should have it and hand it over to the father if he is willing to take it/is able to support it.

Quick Edit: In this situation it sounds like the girl should have an abortion as its highly unlikely that the boy(presuming he is teenage as well) can look after the kid properly. After the abortion the girl and the boy should be slapped around the head a few things, might knock some sense into them.