The first 99% of the game is magnificent. and i would say a majority will agree to that it can stay as it is.
the last 1% however.
the last 1% however.
Poll: Why does everyone hate ME3 so badly?
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I keep hearing about this ending, and I almost don't want to finish the game. The way God of War 3 ended did the exact same to me that ME3 did to you. I am always telling friends that mention God of War how much I hate it now. I find that this kind of thing happens in a lot of books I've read too. They have such a great story from the start and the last couple chapters or so they rush everything to a very convoluted and stupid ending. It's one of Christopher Moore's (one of my favorite authors) greatest downfalls.FutureJarhead16 said:
The game is great. But after playing the whole trilogy, you get an ending that basically defies everything you've learnt of the universe.
All your actions, all you've seen. Choices, all steps aside to bring out this completely new thing that we never heard of or aren't even remotely involved with.
After these three games, I've felt that everyone has a choice of survival. We allied the Geth and proved that EDI, an advanced artificial intelligence, can befriend and feel compassion for others.
But no, gentlemen.
That's all thrown out the window.
Everything we worked for in all these three games just poofs.
All your actions, all you've seen. Choices, all steps aside to bring out this completely new thing that we never heard of or aren't even remotely involved with.
After these three games, I've felt that everyone has a choice of survival. We allied the Geth and proved that EDI, an advanced artificial intelligence, can befriend and feel compassion for others.
But no, gentlemen.
That's all thrown out the window.
Everything we worked for in all these three games just poofs.
It's all free blowjobs and crack, right up to the last 15 minutes.
The ending is just mediocre. And were it at the end of any other game it would have probably been overlooked (as it was for example in the new due sex), but this isn't any other game/game series this is Mass Effect. A series that has elevated player choice above everything else (besides the story) and the ending just chucks both of those things in a bin.
Even so the game is well worth playing.
Imagine it like a Popsicle that goes a bit bitter at the end
or rather a nice big cock that fires a not so good tasting liquid at the end.
The ending is just mediocre. And were it at the end of any other game it would have probably been overlooked (as it was for example in the new due sex), but this isn't any other game/game series this is Mass Effect. A series that has elevated player choice above everything else (besides the story) and the ending just chucks both of those things in a bin.
Even so the game is well worth playing.
Imagine it like a Popsicle that goes a bit bitter at the end
or rather a nice big cock that fires a not so good tasting liquid at the end.
They're really only listening to the complaints that they can fix by charging more money.dyre said:
I loved this game. Hell, I talked to everyone on the Normandy dozens of times because I LOVED the characters. I loved the choice systems, and how I managed to help everyone that I could.
But the ending makes this all count for nothing.
Bioware, thank you for an amazing series. The ending hasn't ruined the series for me, I still love it and will replay it again, just next time, do NOT include multiplayer! The funding for that could have improved upon your already excellent game.
But the ending makes this all count for nothing.
Sure, you know from the end of the missions that you saved everyone and united different species, but having an ending which showed the result of this alliance would have been so much better than what we were given. All 3 endings being the same apart from a different coloured explosion was an insult. The endings themselves? Weren't the best, but they were definitely better than some other endings in games. It's not as if it's just EA that have used the DLC trick - Alan Wake did it too! That ending was vague, but the DLC was used to expand upon the vague story.
The ending reminded me of that of LA Noire. You had no choice over Cole Phelps cheating on his wife, and no choice on his demise. That was another game about choice, but it all ended up with the same results. This was also a let-down.
I am a firm believer that Shepard was always on Earth after Harbringer knocked him out with his laser, and it was all a hallucination. I want that to be true, the final assault part was so god-damn epic.
The ending reminded me of that of LA Noire. You had no choice over Cole Phelps cheating on his wife, and no choice on his demise. That was another game about choice, but it all ended up with the same results. This was also a let-down.
I am a firm believer that Shepard was always on Earth after Harbringer knocked him out with his laser, and it was all a hallucination. I want that to be true, the final assault part was so god-damn epic.
Bioware, thank you for an amazing series. The ending hasn't ruined the series for me, I still love it and will replay it again, just next time, do NOT include multiplayer! The funding for that could have improved upon your already excellent game.
You know guys...
(Some sort of spoilers here if you haven't played or you haven't finished Dragon Age: Origins)
I think Bioware is going Dragon Age: Origins with Mass Effect 3, near the end of Dragon Age: Origins you could do a ritual with someone to just before you defeated the main antagonist and after that you became the hero. But if you didn't performed the ritual, you die after defeating the main antagonist or you send that guy to kill the antagonist for you and survive that encounter.
What I'm trying to say is... We better wait for a "Closure" DLC or in the case of DA:O an expasion pack (a term that has been lost), I read somewhere that Bioware is defending their ending... But are we really seeing the "ending" of Mass Effect 3?
If not... Then we'll get a spin-off with one of the main characters, most likely with that annoying and useless James Vega or with Garrus Vakarian which would make a decent spin-off.
(Some sort of spoilers here if you haven't played or you haven't finished Dragon Age: Origins)
I think Bioware is going Dragon Age: Origins with Mass Effect 3, near the end of Dragon Age: Origins you could do a ritual with someone to just before you defeated the main antagonist and after that you became the hero. But if you didn't performed the ritual, you die after defeating the main antagonist or you send that guy to kill the antagonist for you and survive that encounter.
What I'm trying to say is... We better wait for a "Closure" DLC or in the case of DA:O an expasion pack (a term that has been lost), I read somewhere that Bioware is defending their ending... But are we really seeing the "ending" of Mass Effect 3?
If not... Then we'll get a spin-off with one of the main characters, most likely with that annoying and useless James Vega or with Garrus Vakarian which would make a decent spin-off.
Garbage on a disk, because the endings do in 10 minutes what usually takes developers several games to do; i.e. fuck up everything.
But then Bioware has been absorbed by EA so what am I complaining for? Should have seen it coming, to be honest.
But then Bioware has been absorbed by EA so what am I complaining for? Should have seen it coming, to be honest.
Don't hate *it*, but the corporate product it has become. Instead of making a game for the players, like Bethesda or Valve do (and Bioware used to), the game was made to please EA board room execs. It HAS to have MP, online passes, Day 1 DLC, Origin only, "broad mass market appeal". It's basically become almost a sci-fi Call of Duty game, with the helicopter turret sequence, forced slo-mo dream sequences and soooooo linear.
Bioware did NOT make the best game they could have. ME3 was not the best it could have been, it didn't do true justice to the saga or it's predecessors.
Bioware did NOT make the best game they could have. ME3 was not the best it could have been, it didn't do true justice to the saga or it's predecessors.
As has been said many, many...many times, the ending was just bad. Other than that, the fact that, without multiplayer, it's damn near impossible to get the best ending. There was this one spot behind Joker that I repeatedly got stuck in. Vega was a shitty character that I wish I could have kicked off the ship like Allers.
And even with those gripes, I can't really say I hate ME3. However, I find that subsequent play-throughs are much, much less enjoyable after seeing the ending. That and knowing I'll never be able to get the best ending due to a bad internet connection.
Kai Leng was horribly introduced. I didn't read any of the books, and he's supposed to be an important character in some of them, but he just came off as pathetic. His plot armor was bullshit. Without the gunship backing him up on Thessia and the constant shield recharging, he would have been beaten within a minute. And the final fight with him was just awful. I was more worried about the two phantoms during the last wave than I was about Leng. And the "OMG Kai Leng is so badass, watch your back Shepard!" BS that Anderson feeds you is horrible.
It annoyed me to no end that you don't get any of the ME2 squadmates on the Normandy, and that they killed off my three favorite squadmates from ME2, with no way to save them.
It annoyed me to no end that you don't get any of the ME2 squadmates on the Normandy, and that they killed off my three favorite squadmates from ME2, with no way to save them.
And even with those gripes, I can't really say I hate ME3. However, I find that subsequent play-throughs are much, much less enjoyable after seeing the ending. That and knowing I'll never be able to get the best ending due to a bad internet connection.
So much bitching over nothing - its pathetic really. The games amazing with a disappointing ending, but still a great game. I guess people lack imagination and want every single thing spelled out for them. Like for me, i think Joker was rushing because he had all the knowledge stored on his ship and was told to leave (as Normandy is the fastest ship) to ensure our knowledge survives the ending. I also like how now all the races are restricted to the Sol system and have to work together and give up old arguments to ensure all races survive. Wrex, Grunt, Garuss etc will work together with everyone else to survive and rebuild.
What i believe Bioware failed on was reusing the same cgi with different colours when they should have had 3 different endings. I dont want a new ending at all, i find that insulting. An any fan shouldnt want a new ending either as you will always know its their just to stop all the bitching and whining. What i want is DLC to show the aftermath and how the races struggle to survive and how your team mates deal with your death etc. This can be done in a story or comic.
The Tali picture moaning was so lame. Its a non issue.
What i believe Bioware failed on was reusing the same cgi with different colours when they should have had 3 different endings. I dont want a new ending at all, i find that insulting. An any fan shouldnt want a new ending either as you will always know its their just to stop all the bitching and whining. What i want is DLC to show the aftermath and how the races struggle to survive and how your team mates deal with your death etc. This can be done in a story or comic.
The Tali picture moaning was so lame. Its a non issue.
Because I find the mass effect series boring?
That's my reason, I never liked the first or second one (Thank god I never owned them, just borrowed)
1st mass effect: Yawn (Yet I still completed it)
2nd mass effect: More yawn (Again, I saw it throught to the end)
3rd mass effect: Not interested.....
That's my reason, I never liked the first or second one (Thank god I never owned them, just borrowed)
1st mass effect: Yawn (Yet I still completed it)
2nd mass effect: More yawn (Again, I saw it throught to the end)
3rd mass effect: Not interested.....
I also saw the destruction of the mass relays as the reapers "taking their ball and going home" type attitude. As in, you dont want us, fine, then you dont get our technology. Also all 3 games could have been the stories Stargazer was telling that kid.
I agree. Use your imagination, do you really need to see every single thing onscreen? I KNOW what happened to my crewmates, where they are and what happened after ME3. I dont need DLC or add on to TELL me what happened. These are you crew mates, your friends and your story....why would you want some one else telling you "this is what happened"?SajuukKhar said:
I'm seeing a lot of people dismissing the anger as "typical, ungrateful fans" and "they're only attacking it because it's popular!"
Well, allow me to retort.
You are WRONG!
We were promised, time and again that there would not be a bog-standard ending at that our choices up to and after the finale would mean something.
An ending is supposed to give closure and, at the very least, not leave us with a million unanswered questions. It's also not supposed to unravel the very fibre of the three games and blast massive great holes in the plot and established canon with an M-300 Claymore!
I think what made it that much harder to swallow is that the game, up to that point, was so frigging good that I'm surprised it doesn't come with a warning about the sheer levels of awesome. The problem is that the ending just undoes all your hard-work leading up to that point and you might as well have not bothered. It renders the hundreds of hours of preparation the games urge you to do totally and utterly irrelevant.
So it's not just "hating for hates sake" - smart-arse! While I cannot condone people demanding people are fired over this, I have some perspective after-all, but we invested a lot of time, effort and money into the series because we wanted to find out, when the dust had settled, what were the consequences of our actions?
Because the ending (I refuse to use the plural "endings" because they are essentially all the same, just in different colours) is the same, no matter what, it also removes the incentive to replay with a new character, gender, class and so on - something that the loading screens in ME2 were so keen on telling us!
Think about it before dismissing us out of hand. Yes there are those that are so pissed off that they are gonna need a lobotomy but there are some of us that can actually argue the toss without a witch-hunt!
It is a shame that a classic experience was bought crashing down by such a cock-slap of an ending, it really is.
Finally - think about what games would be like if nobody called companies out on their bulls*it now and again and they just figured we like dick-moves like this.
Well, allow me to retort.
You are WRONG!
We were promised, time and again that there would not be a bog-standard ending at that our choices up to and after the finale would mean something.
An ending is supposed to give closure and, at the very least, not leave us with a million unanswered questions. It's also not supposed to unravel the very fibre of the three games and blast massive great holes in the plot and established canon with an M-300 Claymore!
I think what made it that much harder to swallow is that the game, up to that point, was so frigging good that I'm surprised it doesn't come with a warning about the sheer levels of awesome. The problem is that the ending just undoes all your hard-work leading up to that point and you might as well have not bothered. It renders the hundreds of hours of preparation the games urge you to do totally and utterly irrelevant.
So it's not just "hating for hates sake" - smart-arse! While I cannot condone people demanding people are fired over this, I have some perspective after-all, but we invested a lot of time, effort and money into the series because we wanted to find out, when the dust had settled, what were the consequences of our actions?
Because the ending (I refuse to use the plural "endings" because they are essentially all the same, just in different colours) is the same, no matter what, it also removes the incentive to replay with a new character, gender, class and so on - something that the loading screens in ME2 were so keen on telling us!
Think about it before dismissing us out of hand. Yes there are those that are so pissed off that they are gonna need a lobotomy but there are some of us that can actually argue the toss without a witch-hunt!
It is a shame that a classic experience was bought crashing down by such a cock-slap of an ending, it really is.
Finally - think about what games would be like if nobody called companies out on their bulls*it now and again and they just figured we like dick-moves like this.