I'm not a troll and this isn't a skyrim hype thread, I was angered by movie bob's nostalgia blindness and so wanted to see what everyone else thought about this
Poll: Will Skyrim be this generations Ocarina of time
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Sorry that was my light hearted half agreeing with you sarcastic voice not my mean spirited scarcastic voice.zdgrafyd said:
I agree there is a ridiculous amount of hype. But as I said, I've already bought it and I'm looking forward to playing it. I also think there is a ridiclous amount of post-hype for Ocarina of time.
{Ducks behind his desk and gets his flame proof sheild}
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I was hoping the light hearted part would come out when I pointed out that not only have people dug through the game enough to find uncompleted mission scripts that were cut from the game, but they have put time and effort in to speculating how they would have been completed and even trying to recreated them.
I mean I like the game, but there is a limit.
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Don't get me wrong, I like zeda. I didn't have a NES or SNES so I missed a bunch of it, but the zelda I have played I liked. and maybe zelda would have been life changing for me if I had played it when it was released, but I personally think zork was more revolutionary than zelda.agentorange98 said:
I also think Kings Quest 4 and Space Quest 5 were more revolutionary (you can still get KQ and SQ collections on steam so someone is still buying / playing them (I raise my hand that I'm guilty here )
The first game i played that I remember as revolutionary to me was manhunter new york.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhunter_(game)
It is the first game that I remeber that was completely mouse controlled. And I'm old enough that I use to play text based games that didn't even have bitmap graphics and I thought they were fun. (Some of them still are) There is a disk world Text base MUD that is pretty good.
Skyrim has been built up to the point where it is going to have to be SPECTACULAR or people are going to be disappointed, and lets face it, todays game industry doesn't do spectacular.
I'm hoping for good/great. Life changing? I wouldn't hold yer breath.
And also, all Zelda games are arse. Just throwing it out there.
I'm hoping for good/great. Life changing? I wouldn't hold yer breath.
And also, all Zelda games are arse. Just throwing it out there.
anyone is completely welcome to their opinions but we all know that bad mouthing a zelda game makes your more attractive cause you look bad ass like a cop who doesn't play by the rules and lets his gun do the talking and because at the moment I'm really pissed off at nostalgia blindness and movie bob in particular so in conclusion YAY anti-zelda comments iz be friend
Comparing Ocarina of Time and Elder Scrolls is an apples and oranges situation. Both Zelda and Elder Scrolls have groundbreaking titles. While Gothic may have been the earliest example the type of gameplay Morrowind has to offer, Morrowind wasn't plagued by the bugs Gothic titles have on their first release and has more intuitive control schemes and it is the first game of it's kind that most people remember. Even game developers copying the style probably don't realize that Gothic came first.
Ocarina of Time, on the other hand, is entirely different. It's not the RPG style of killing things to get stronger, it's finding items to get more abilities. You use those abilities to solve puzzles to advance further. The game gets more difficult and more complex as you progress.
While growing more powerful in Zelda games, I never lose the sense that I'm a relatively weak hero going up against a great threat like Frodo. I rarely gain powers, I just amass more tools. Elder Scrolls is a different experience. I start off practically helpless, but later become a god. The beginning is the hardest part of the game, then it gets easier.
I'm not drawing these comparisons to say one game is better than the other. I think of these games like pizza and burgers. Both are delicious, but depending on my mood, I'll choose one over the other. As for Skyrim, I think it'll be an awesome game with an epic story, but in terms of gameplay, I doubt it will change that much from Oblivion in terms of gameplay. It's not going to be as gargantuan a difference between Daggerfall and Morrowind.
Ocarina of Time, on the other hand, is entirely different. It's not the RPG style of killing things to get stronger, it's finding items to get more abilities. You use those abilities to solve puzzles to advance further. The game gets more difficult and more complex as you progress.
While growing more powerful in Zelda games, I never lose the sense that I'm a relatively weak hero going up against a great threat like Frodo. I rarely gain powers, I just amass more tools. Elder Scrolls is a different experience. I start off practically helpless, but later become a god. The beginning is the hardest part of the game, then it gets easier.
I'm not drawing these comparisons to say one game is better than the other. I think of these games like pizza and burgers. Both are delicious, but depending on my mood, I'll choose one over the other. As for Skyrim, I think it'll be an awesome game with an epic story, but in terms of gameplay, I doubt it will change that much from Oblivion in terms of gameplay. It's not going to be as gargantuan a difference between Daggerfall and Morrowind.
Ridgemo said:
Oh nah, just keep in mind 'It's still Bethesda who makes the game' and you're all set to go.
On topic, no it will not be the new Ocarina of time for this generation, as that is already Ocarina of time on the 3ds. badum-tish.
Seriously though, it's not the same... well same everything actually. I'll be genuinly suprised if there is a water temple in Skryim (And yes, do call me out on that, cuz I'll be dead curious about it.) And it will not be the same. Will it be an epic game for those who love the gamestyle and type? Yes, yes it will. Will it get high grades (90+)? Yes, most likely.
Will I spend 500+ hours on it? Definitly.
But lots of people will say "ah this game sucks". Because if it's not your type o game, it's just not your type of game (like minecraft for example)
Industry doesn't do spectacular? Maybe you missed Mass Effect 2, Portal Series, Bioshock, Dragon Age, Red Dead Redemption, Uncharted 2 and 3, HeavyRain/AlanWake (personal choice), Psychonauts, Shadow of the Collosus, Persona Series, COD4, Arkham City, Twilight Princess, Okami, and so many many many more.
So question to all, is everyone just in agreement that no game could ever beat Ocarina of Time, it's just the undefeatable lord of the games and will forever be considered the best game there is? and on that note we all agree that Ocarina of Time is in no way an RPG right?
Yeah, and it makes me wonder why people call out Call of Duty as 'formulaic' while simultaneously enjoying games like Oblivion...Palademon said:
also apologies all round as the stupid thing didn't make the pole show up don't know why probably cause its stupid
As much as I am looking forward to it, it will sadly not.
I don't think such a leap is POSSIBLE anymore. We have 3D. Honestly, the next step is some kind of holodeck or brain-powered game, and I doubt games will have that impact when those things come along.
Ocarina of Time was a game that not only survived the jump to 3D (Twice!), but also transcended it and changed its genre in ways that are still felt today.
Ask yourself this:
Would modern adventure games be where they are today without Ocarina of Time? Probably not.
Do you think Skyrim will bring that kind of innovation to the table? Doubtful. There's nothing to innovate. We're on the same platforms we were four years ago (For the most part) just with shinier graphics.
Skyrim is, as awesome as it looks, a modern adventure-RPG, and has Ocarina of Time to thank, at least a little bit.
I don't think such a leap is POSSIBLE anymore. We have 3D. Honestly, the next step is some kind of holodeck or brain-powered game, and I doubt games will have that impact when those things come along.
Ocarina of Time was a game that not only survived the jump to 3D (Twice!), but also transcended it and changed its genre in ways that are still felt today.
Ask yourself this:
Would modern adventure games be where they are today without Ocarina of Time? Probably not.
Do you think Skyrim will bring that kind of innovation to the table? Doubtful. There's nothing to innovate. We're on the same platforms we were four years ago (For the most part) just with shinier graphics.
Skyrim is, as awesome as it looks, a modern adventure-RPG, and has Ocarina of Time to thank, at least a little bit.
No. How many 9 year olds do you know that are buying it... not a whole lot. Nostalgia property is random and capricious.
Skyrim will be this generations Skyrim.
OoT was that generations OoT.
Don't oversell games... Ocarina of Time was a fun game but it isn't the world beating classic people hype it up to be.
I 100% completed it (100 skulltullas, 20 hearts, Hylian loach etc.) with no guides and I still don't think its a better game than many others.
Don't make pointless comparisons. It hurts games.
OoT was that generations OoT.
Don't oversell games... Ocarina of Time was a fun game but it isn't the world beating classic people hype it up to be.
I 100% completed it (100 skulltullas, 20 hearts, Hylian loach etc.) with no guides and I still don't think its a better game than many others.
Don't make pointless comparisons. It hurts games.
Then aren't all games "formulaic" when you really break it down? I figure it has something to do with the TES formula being rather deep and complex while the CoD formula is shallow (aside from story elements). Not to say this makes CoD any less enjoyable but fact is that a game like TES V has had a lot more production time+resources.leet_x1337 said:
Will Skyrim be a masterpiece like OoC? Probably not. Gaming has diversified itself so much now. Everyone has found their very own select preference of games, Skyrim is trying really hard to reach everyone and in the process depth of the orinigal RPG experience has to be sacrificed. Maybe we'll remember Skyrim as the game that pleased everyone (stealth, story, shooter, rpg fans, etc) but did not quite excell in any one area.