My side with a heart:No thats aful
My normal self:Coat hanger or doctor? Screw it either will work!
My normal self:Coat hanger or doctor? Screw it either will work!
Down's Syndrome itself can't be latent.EcoEclipse said:He had surgery as an infant and an intern nurse screwed up his medication, which triggered a seizure, which triggered the Down's. I think it's possible for it to be latent, right? Maybe his condition was amplified by that, I'm not entirely sure; it's been a while since I actually heard the story.RhombusHatesYou said:Wait a second... how can you not be born with something that's caused by a chromosonal disorder?
I agree that the main crux of "They're deficient, so let's kill them" is bullshit. Simple ignorance on the part of strangers on the internet. Life's pretty much meaningless for everyone, not just the disabled. Those eugenics fools are kidding themselves.tehroc said:This thread makes me lose respect for the escapist audience and I'm pro-its-her-choice. Sounds like eugenics too me, which many of these posters wouldn't even qualify for birth.
Wow, Edgy McEdgerton in the house.ghostalker.cepo said:Absolutely. Down's syndrome is a detrimental genetic mutation to the species, and were we to live in a world where we had natural predators, natural selection would see to it that they wouldn't reproduce.
Pffft. A few asprin should be enough to cause a miscarriage.Judgement101 said:My normal self:Coat hanger or doctor? Screw it either will work!
I did in fact know that they had low fertility rates, although you have educated me as to exactly HOW low. However you conveniently cut out the the next part where I expand that to all genetic disabilities, not just that of Down's Syndrome. DS may be self correcting, and for the mistake, I'm sorry, but as I said, I expanded my argument to encompass all genetic defects, and I really should have said that in a world where we had natural predators, they would be among the first to be dragged off by the lions.RhombusHatesYou said:Wow, Edgy McEdgerton in the house.ghostalker.cepo said:Absolutely. Down's syndrome is a detrimental genetic mutation to the species, and were we to live in a world where we had natural predators, natural selection would see to it that they wouldn't reproduce.
You do know, don't you, that people with Down's Syndrome have very low fertility rates, don't you? Females with Down's not only have low fertility but they have many problems carrying a pregnancy full term, especially if the fetus falls within the 50% chance of inheriting DS where there is a very high incidence of spontaneous abortion (miscarriage). In males with Down's Syndrome fertility is so low that only 3 have been recorded as having fathered children.
Apart from women with Down's Syndrome, despite low fertility and high rates of spontaneous abortion for fetuses with Down Syndrome (which are only roughly 50% of the fetuses anyway), hatching their own spawn the only other hereditary form of Down's Syndrome is the extremely rare Translocation type.
So, from a species wide view, it's a very self-correcting genetic disorder.
Of course I did. Why would I address points that don't allow me to pontificate? Where's the fun in that?ghostalker.cepo said:However you conveniently cut out the the next part
Just don't start on a 'modern medicine is anti-evolutionary' trip...Children born with serious congenital defects wouldn't have survived in prehistoric times
Nobody likes a quitter.Also, I'm trying to quit smoking, so yes, right now I am Edgy McEdgerton heh.
Your mom never seems to mind having your "family heritage" corrupted.Rocket Dog said:Yes.
I honestly would not want my family's heritage to be... "corrupted" by having Down Syndrome thrown in there somewhere. It sounds bad, yes, but that is my wish.
Fair enoughRhombusHatesYou said:Of course I did. Why would I address points that don't allow me to pontificate? Where's the fun in that?ghostalker.cepo said:However you conveniently cut out the the next part
It's something I happen to believe, athough I won't start, I think I've already stated my view.Just don't start on a 'modern medicine is anti-evolutionary' trip...Children born with serious congenital defects wouldn't have survived in prehistoric times
Right-o *grabs coat and heads to the shop*Nobody likes a quitter.Also, I'm trying to quit smoking, so yes, right now I am Edgy McEdgerton heh.