Jeez Louise, i wasnt offending anyone by saying "normal "thats what the quotation marks are for. There is no such thing as a normal person in my book.Everybody is different in one way or the other. I was using it to say normal as in the gender it says on your birth certificate.Natasha_LB said:No, it does not mean a "Normal" person, I'll let you off this once, because I can see how easy it must be for people to make that mistake, but it implies that we are not "normal" and that's quite offensive. Trans people are as normal as cis people are. Gender identity disorder is a disease... suffering from a disease does not make a person not normal, would you say that someone with cancer was not normal?westcoast1313 said:Ahhh okay, so its a "normal" person. Then whats with the cis part?MartianWarMachine said:A cisman is a man who was born with a male body, and a ciswoman is a woman who was born with a female body.westcoast1313 said:Okay, question, what the hell is a cisman and a ciswoman?
Anyways on topic now i anwsered no as i find it weird. Cant really put a finger on the exact reason i feel that way, i just do.
This is why we have the term "cis", it's essentially a shorthand way of saying "not trans", without having to fall back on terms like normal. The cis part once again comes from latin, it means "On the same side as" so cissexual would mean to be on the same side as your birth sex. IE, you don't need to travel across the plain of sex, because you're already on the correct side.
I don't think you intended to offend anyone, because I don't think you'd realized the connotations of how what you were saying might affect trans people, and as I said I can completely see why someone would make that mistake. I just though I'd let you know for the future. I will say that I didn't notice your quotation marks, and perhaps if I had I would have interpreted your reply a little differently.westcoast1313 said:Jeez Louise, i wasnt offending anyone by saying "normal "thats what the quotation marks are for. There is no such thing as a normal person in my book.Everybody is different in one way or the other. I was using it to say normal as in the gender it says on your birth certificate.
Hmm... well, you first. Please explain where you got any of your initial retort, starting with "Oh come on...". At no point did I state anything about TGs living "as they pleased" or disagreeing with anyone elses choices or right to have or not have any choices. I only implied I was saddened by the results of the poll and that I possibly expected similar results, not which aspects of the poll, which specific results or why. For all you knew at the time you wrote this, I was upset by what I viewed as limited options for answer, the gender lines upon which they were skewed or my own specific demographic being excluded. You seem to be assuming things which I never even stated. Why...?airrazor7 said:Come on now, (not trying to offend) you can't have it both ways. You can't say that transgender people should have the right to live and be as they please like anyone else only to later disagree with the choice of people who refuse to consider a relationship with a transgender person. They have a right to their choices as well.TheDarkestDerp said:Pretty sad results on the poll, if not unexpected.
"was married..."Well, I'm technically a hermaphrodite and I was married to a MTF transgendered person, so, there you go.
If you truly 'love' someone, what they are isn't going to matter. I loved her before I knew what crockery was in her cupboards and when I did know I didn't care. Why would I? She was what she was and I loved her for the person she was, not the thing. She was a gamer, a geek, a fetishist and a dancing fool with a great sense of humor and some sense of social propriety. I fell in love with those things, not her genitals. It's always seemed so ridiculously shallow to me that anyone would care about something so trivial.
It seems like you were really in love with that person and the relationship that you two shared. It's a shame that your relationship is now in past tense. You've piqued my curiosity. If you don't mind sharing, how and why did it end?
don't forget getting fake breasts if they are a guy and taking a hell of a lot of the opposite genders hormones.Deathmageddon said:Mutilating your genitals beyond recognition does not change your gender...
You know, just like pro-lifers and pro-choicers. Of course everyone is going to choose a label they are more comfortable with.Kendarik said:Because they are trying to normalize themselves by suggesting that there are multiple normal states, one called cis, one called trans. It's like if CP patients wanted to call those who don't have CP want to call people without the disease "CPabsent" or something like that.
So, the world will be ruined if we do not share your opinion on the matter?Arsen said:Edit - The fact that the options for the first, third, and fifth have an ear for support, deeply frightens me about future generations and how they will end up viewing the world.