Poll: would you die for your country?
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No, no I would not.
And not because I don't love it, but I'm 1 of about 50 million living here and I like living, ta.
And not because I don't love it, but I'm 1 of about 50 million living here and I like living, ta.
My logic is the opposite of the OPs. If I love it, why would I die and not enjoy it anymore?
Also, I can help my country in much better ways than dying. Dying is counter-productive. I could start a business, employ tons of people, and bring money to the economy and do 500000% more good for my country than being dead.
This also probably belongs in the Religion and Politics.
Also, I can help my country in much better ways than dying. Dying is counter-productive. I could start a business, employ tons of people, and bring money to the economy and do 500000% more good for my country than being dead.
This also probably belongs in the Religion and Politics.
What? WTF? Why would anyone DIE for a such an abstract construct?
People take dying pretty lightly these days. "I`d catch a grenade for you".
You realize that dying means it is game over? Or maybe I am just a selfish person, but I really don't want to die.
And why live there, if I am not going to die for it? What the hell? I live here because I was born here and learned that language. If I was born a few more kilometres West, I would have been from the Netherlands. Wouldn't want to die for that country either.
People take dying pretty lightly these days. "I`d catch a grenade for you".
You realize that dying means it is game over? Or maybe I am just a selfish person, but I really don't want to die.
And why live there, if I am not going to die for it? What the hell? I live here because I was born here and learned that language. If I was born a few more kilometres West, I would have been from the Netherlands. Wouldn't want to die for that country either.
I'd risk my life for england, not sure if I'd go on a complete suicide mission for it though.
England's government however...If I really desperately needed to pee and number ten was catching fire, I'd find somewhere to pee that didn't risk saving the life of a complete good for nothing scumbag.
England's government however...If I really desperately needed to pee and number ten was catching fire, I'd find somewhere to pee that didn't risk saving the life of a complete good for nothing scumbag.
What do you mean by "die for your country" anyway? Are you suggesting some hypothetical situation where my country would dissolve like the old Soviet Union if I say no? Would my country be physically destroyed if I said no? Are you talking about getting killed by the enemy whilst serving in the military (if that's the case then I'd like to remind you that Patton once said: "No one ever won a war by dieing for their country. They won by making the other son of a ***** die for his country.")? I don't understand the question.gabe12301 said:
Well said.Mr Thin said:
The thing is though you would get more people wanting to die for their country if they had to. If there was a world war 3 then I would think even the people not fit for war would be wanting to fight for what was right.
Depends on the war.
I'm not fighting for the damn government, I'm fighting for the people I've never met, and will never meet.
I'm not fighting for the damn government, I'm fighting for the people I've never met, and will never meet.
Well first of all, maybe I live here because I was born here and I don't have the means to simply up sticks and move somewhere nicer because I don't happen to love the place.gabe12301 said:
Anyway, I have a bit of a problem with this kind of question because what exactly do you mean by "my country"? The physical land mass itself? The people who live here? The political landscape as it is right now? Someone's subjective ideal of Britain (or England)? Sorry to be a smart-ass, but I can't help wondering about the definition.
I think ultimately, I love my country in a very emotional, sentimental kind of way. (I love my land, no matter how fucked up it gets, to paraphrase Mr. Barret Wallace). I feel a definite connection with it, so I guess I'm patriotic in my own way. But on an honest intellectual level, in terms of how it is right now, with idiots running it, public services being cut in half all over the place, no jobs, no money, and an underclass of youths so cut off from the rest of society that they would pull the shit we put up with the other week? Hell no, it's a fucking shit hole.
To answer the question, no, I wouldn't die for Britain (or England).
You mean would I put myself in the line of fire or actually die? Going to war doesn't necessarily mean dying for your country.
Hahah, I like the way that between us, we have questioned what the "dying" part of the OP meant, AND what the "country" part meant.Iron Lightning said:
Anyone want to question the meaning of the word "would" in this context?
