Poll: Would you harbor a nazi?

[Verlander]

Other: Rehabilitation is always better, I'd hide them not because they changed, but because they're a human being

 

[funguy2121]

Wow. Flame-bait-much? Nearly half said they would harbor Nazis because "they've changed." I haven't ventured past page 1 but I predict what I will find will be troll-riffic.

Let the anti-semetic nonsense commence!

 

[Kouryuu]

Listen, there are always two sides to a story and I'm more than willing to admit the huge flaws of justice system and that alot of judges are subjective.

Do you know how many cases there are in a year when some Jewish organisation gets a warrant for a Latvian legion soldier in the USA to get arrested and then they cant get them even to court cuz Hag said not happening? more than 100 a year for a dozen soldiers, the USA judges a trusting a Nazi is a Nazi give warrant.

I admit I would infringe justice in helping him, but I would do so only after talking to him, seeing what kind of human he is. But I still would not believe in a sister who prosecutes only the losers after a war, we had our terrors here too, and they where not the work of the German forces.

I am on this side of the coin because I have been born under CCCP occupation of my country. And my Grandmother still speaks how good the time was when the Germans had taken over in comparison to the Russian occupation.

 

[silasbufu]

Listen, there are always two sides to a story and I'm more than willing to admit the huge flaws of justice system and that alot of judges are subjective.

Do you know how many cases there are in a year when some Jewish organisation gets a warrant for a Latvian legion soldier in the USA to get arrested and then they cant get them even to court cuz Hag said not happening? more than 100 a year for a dozen soldiers, the USA judges a trusting a Nazi is a Nazi give warrant.

I admit I would infringe justice in helping him, but I would do so only after talking to him, seeing what kind of human he is. But I still would not believe in a sister who prosecutes only the losers after a war, we had our terrors here too, and they where not the work of the German forces.

I am on this side of the coin because I have been born under CCCP occupation of my country. And my Grandmother still speaks how good the time was when the Germans had taken over in comparison to the Russian occupation.

I too am from Eastern Europe and I hate Stalin ten times more than Hitler, but that's another story.

 

[neoontime]

No, if they police are already after him I don't want to get into trouble as well as for lying. Although if it was the other way around I would hide him.

 

[6037084]

Yes, since he was good to ME and the people I know I couldn't care less what his political views were and where he "worked" (or who he killed) because of them and since he was a good friend to me he'd probably do the same for me if our positions were switched. If however a family member of mine or a close friend was killed in a camp where he "worked" I'd tell him to fuck off.

 

[Les Awesome]

just 99 nazi scalps to go

 

[k-ossuburb]

Regardless of who he is or what he has done, it's foolish for me to "protect" him from the law. He needs rehabilitation and possibly psychiatric treatment, this can only be done within the system. Also, it's illegal to interfere with an arrest, even if he was my brother I'd still let things happen the way they're supposed to happen as trying to prevent it is only going to make things worse.

He still has a right to a fair trial, so what will be, will be.

 

[Viking Incognito]

If he really truly regrets what he did then yes.

 

[TinCynic]

I'd turn him in. If he's truly sorry, then he most also face the consequences of his actions. If I were to hide him, I'd be condoning whatever crimes he may have committed.

We can forgive, but not excuse.

 

[Kouryuu]

READ BEFORE VOTING!

You live in a small town. In it, there is a man.

He is a generous man, kind to all and very into philanthropy. He is by any definition a good neighbour and friend.

One day he asks you to house him for a while. He tells you he was an officer in a concentration camp. He cries for a long time. He is very sorry for what he's done (which happens to be a lot). He knows he will never be able to fix what he has done, but is afraid of what will happen to him if he is incarcerated.

Police soon come to your door asking for him. What do you do?

I was talking about something similar with my english teacher. We are both very convinced that rehabilitation is the best solution to crime, but for very severe crimes there is an instant desire to make someone pay. Usually harshly. This is that internal debate at its logical extreme.

Edit: Crimes against humanity, in case you were wondering.

just for reference

I too am from Eastern Europe and I hate Stalin ten times more than Hitler, but that's another story.

Basicly I would decide only after knowing what exactly he was in the camp. But by definition I would, like him to repent by doing good, rather then getting him through court to and up in jail or be spoken free. then from the information i got from the first post I gather that he will do good, why should we take his chance him to do good in his last years in his life, in best case he is 78 if he was 16 in 1938. it has no point.

Would you as a human go and kick a dog who has stolen you a ham sandwich 3 years back?

 

[Kinokohatake]

I voted to end the garbage myself. Something that hateful can't be truly fixed. Not to mention that he hasn't paid for his crimes.

 

[Kouryuu]

I'd turn him in. If he's truly sorry, then he most also face the consequences of his actions. If I were to hide him, I'd be condoning whatever crimes he may have committed.

We can forgive, but not excuse.

But logical thinking he can do more good outside the jail as inside. in other words we would forbid him his way of repenting for his crimes.

this is basicly a deeper debate.
Werther we would like to see him punished for his crimes or him repent for his crimes?

 

[FolkLikePanda]

Meh, I couldn't forgive him for what he had done but I wouldn't report him I'd just wait till they got there and I would have to do nothing with him. He knows what he has done and he should of thought of the consequences before his actions but then again if he truly is sorry I have a tiny spec of sympathy but netherless he is still a cold hearted murderer in my eyes.

 

[Kouryuu]

What the fuck happened to people? Would you harbour a paedophile too, if he said he was really sorry, honest, and would never, ever do anything to hurt anyone ever again. Would you believe them more if they cried a little bit, and got a wobble in their voice?

We have a brain, you don't, we use more than 2 colours, you don't, we are educated, learned history, taken a moment to think it over, you, as it looks, did not.

Simply said, with such comments you just show that you do not use your head the way it was supposed

 

[Fetzenfisch]

Nope i wouldnt. If he was living in my neighbourhood since then, as a nice old man, now in his 90s he had more freedom and happiness than he deserved and its time that he gets his punishment, even if its just the short time he has left to live.

 

[ELD3RGoD]

Have some people just fought the idea that killing 7 million Jews is on the same level as a few war-crimes by the allies? Ohhhh dear, it is in no way at all the same thing.

On a different note, No, i'd give him in. Being a nazi isn't being a regular German. It is promoting and commiting hate crimes for their own twisted beliefs. Let him 'repent' in prison and I can keep a clear conscience.

 

[silasbufu]

READ BEFORE VOTING!

You live in a small town. In it, there is a man.

He is a generous man, kind to all and very into philanthropy. He is by any definition a good neighbour and friend.

One day he asks you to house him for a while. He tells you he was an officer in a concentration camp. He cries for a long time. He is very sorry for what he's done (which happens to be a lot). He knows he will never be able to fix what he has done, but is afraid of what will happen to him if he is incarcerated.

Police soon come to your door asking for him. What do you do?

I was talking about something similar with my english teacher. We are both very convinced that rehabilitation is the best solution to crime, but for very severe crimes there is an instant desire to make someone pay. Usually harshly. This is that internal debate at its logical extreme.

Edit: Crimes against humanity, in case you were wondering.

just for reference

I too am from Eastern Europe and I hate Stalin ten times more than Hitler, but that's another story.

Basicly I would decide only after knowing what exactly he was in the camp. But by definition I would, like him to repent by doing good, rather then getting him through court to and up in jail or be spoken free. then from the information i got from the first post I gather that he will do good, why should we take his chance him to do good in his last years in his life, in best case he is 78 if he was 16 in 1938. it has no point.

Would you as a human go and kick a dog who has stolen you a ham sandwich 3 years back?

Sure, I can't agree more. But that only depends if he would tell you the truth about what he did ( because I would turn him in within a blink of an eye if he really killed innocents just for being jewish or whatever the reason - and note again, I'm talking about innocents, not opposing soldiers ), even if after so many years, he was the true definition of a saint . So it just boils down to depends, depends, depends.
Also, there's alot of repenting and doing good in a prison, God knows the people in there need it.

P.S. I know it's just an example but I would not kick a dog for anything in the world maybe just in self-defence.

 

[Artic Xiongmao]

What the fuck happened to people? Would you harbour a paedophile too, if he said he was really sorry, honest, and would never, ever do anything to hurt anyone ever again. Would you believe them more if they cried a little bit, and got a wobble in their voice?

Of course, if they're truly sorry.

Some people have a scary belief of what "Justice" is... At least the polls say there are more civilized people here.

Some of you are pretty biased.

"Would you harbor a Vientman veteran?" Exhange that for any recent war in which the US and others have masacarred thousands. Not following order, always. The nazis had a pretty monstruous philosphy and they deceived their country; but soldiers from Western countries have done pretty awful stuff too.

So, would you harbor a war veteran?

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

I would turn him in. I don't care how "repentant" you are, you have still commited a crime. And I don't care how kind you are either. That dosn't change anything for me. I honestly believe justice is superior to mercy.


EDIT: On a personal note, I had a relative who was a Nazi in a concentration camp, and had he not have gotten his justice at the end of a rope, I would turn him in in a heartbeat.