Why even come into this thread then? just want to up your post count and be contrary?SL33TBL1ND said:
Poll: Would you have preferred KoTOR3 to TOR?
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I agree with all of this, actually. Gameplay-wise, I liked the prestige classes, I liked that you could make some of your companions into Jedi/Sith, I especially liked the influence component.endtherapture said:
Story-wise, K2 blows K1 out of the water. The worldbuilding is so much more interesting and the characters so much deeper. K2 shows you the Force in all its complexity rather than an all-good vs. all-evil schematic. K1 is more like Lucas' Star Wars, K2 is more what a SW universe would actually be if it were real and ordinary people were living in it. They're both good, but one is more multilayered. And I cannot laud Obsidian enough for its characterization-- I happen to think Kreia is the most interesting character in the EU, right up there next to Vergere (and equally hard to peg).
I'd love to see what Obsidian could do with Star Wars if they had less Executive Meddling. Lucasarts really underestimated the interest in a true sequel, and I think they screwed the pooch with the MMO. I predict it'll go the way of the rest of the WoW clones, with a devoted audience but without sustained numbers high enough to really be a threat to Blizz.
The thread asked for my opinion and I gave it. That's the point of a forum.Chairman Miaow said:
Not even looked at TOR yet. Not really bothered too. I've already got one soul-crushing, life-eating MMO in my life, do I really need to tack Star Wars on? (also, 45 quid + subscription? Pff). Nope, give me KOTOR 3 so I can see WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO REVAN! It's like a huge open ended question in the story that's been nagging at me for years. Where did Revan go, what did he found, did the Exile manage to link up with him and what happened then?
I'm sure TOR will reveal all with a crappy 25-man heroic raid or whatever copy of WoW-style endgame content they're using. I'm willing to bet money it involves looting big shiny gear that once belonged to the crew of the Ebon Hawk... Sigh.
I'm sure TOR will reveal all with a crappy 25-man heroic raid or whatever copy of WoW-style endgame content they're using. I'm willing to bet money it involves looting big shiny gear that once belonged to the crew of the Ebon Hawk... Sigh.
I would have liked an Obsidian KOTOR3 developed over a few years and published when it was finished. As for TOR, I don't pay to play it is terrible value for money. When I am busy I get hardly any time to play games, I'd only get a couple hours every month. I'll play TOR when it goes free to play. Until then...when is Star Trek Online due to go FTP again?
Lucasarts has annoyed me a lot lately when it comes to games (avoiding films)
No KOTOR3
No Battlefront 3
No more Rogue Squadron quality games
No more Jedi Knight games (although I am satisfied with its Kartarn series ending, not his student assuming there is no book I have to read)
No Republic Commando sequel
Series which all held up very well when compared to the other games of their genres. I guess the Force Unleashed is kind of like the replacement to the Jedi Knight series but I personally don't enjoy FU that much and I'm sure many agree with me. /rant
Anyway, I definitely feel that the money I have spent so far on TOR has been worth it based on its Single-player experience alone but I would still prefer KOTOR3. I feel like Bioware are obviously the experts when it comes to making a KOTOR game but KOTOR2 had the better writing.
Bioware should steal those writers and whoever else helped build that brilliantly dark grey universe that was in KOTOR2 as well as work on balancing the difficulty of the game a little better (The hard mode in both games was pretty easy, especially as a soldier/guardian).
I voted Bio-ware even though I understand that Obsidian was not given enough time by Lucasarts. By the way, when did Nar Shaddaa become the Gold Earth? Feels like a Coruscant to me, and that's not a good thing.
No KOTOR3
No Battlefront 3
No more Rogue Squadron quality games
No more Jedi Knight games (although I am satisfied with its Kartarn series ending, not his student assuming there is no book I have to read)
No Republic Commando sequel
Series which all held up very well when compared to the other games of their genres. I guess the Force Unleashed is kind of like the replacement to the Jedi Knight series but I personally don't enjoy FU that much and I'm sure many agree with me. /rant
Anyway, I definitely feel that the money I have spent so far on TOR has been worth it based on its Single-player experience alone but I would still prefer KOTOR3. I feel like Bioware are obviously the experts when it comes to making a KOTOR game but KOTOR2 had the better writing.
Bioware should steal those writers and whoever else helped build that brilliantly dark grey universe that was in KOTOR2 as well as work on balancing the difficulty of the game a little better (The hard mode in both games was pretty easy, especially as a soldier/guardian).
I voted Bio-ware even though I understand that Obsidian was not given enough time by Lucasarts. By the way, when did Nar Shaddaa become the Gold Earth? Feels like a Coruscant to me, and that's not a good thing.
3 places you can find out what happened to Revan. TOR, the "Revan" book, or wookieepedia. However, what they did to the Exile was not cool ¬_¬ And we still don't know what's happened to Revan after TOR...Tom Artingstall said:
OT: Obsidian writing the story and characters, Bioware doing the coding and EA as far away as possible would do me. KoTOR II story and characters was awesome, even if the game was buggy and unfinished (which wasn't Obsidian's fault).
An MMO with shitty single player....or a single player focused game by either Obsidian or Bioware? The developer doesn't matter that much. I want an incredibly decent Star Wars game, considering the KOTOR games are the only ones out there that aren't multiplayer focused (Battlefront was pretty kewl).
It asked what I would prefer, and I said neither. Completely valid response to the question,Chairman Miaow said:
I can't really vote on this due to me actually liking TOR. As an MMO it is actually really good and for the most part the stories are really good. Would I like KOTOR 3, yes am I just as happy with TOR yes. I understand that console games are left in the dust with this, but scale of this game is important and consoles kinda suck now. I am happy now no matter what, only really hope for an expansion asap.
I've been paying attention for longer than the beta for TOR.dyre said:
People have been asking for TOR since...
It's been a lot longer than this dialog.
Yes and no, I think theres room for both games actually. I like ToR and in some ways it is KoToR 3. However I also feel that KOTOR 3 as its own rpg released by bioware still has a place in the industry.
So I guess my question is why isnt there another option that says something like "Why cant we have both?"
So I guess my question is why isnt there another option that says something like "Why cant we have both?"
Or a KOTOR3 from Obsidian, if they actually manage to finish the damn thing this time instead of leaving it 3/4th done like KOTOR2.
While I would love a KOTOR 3, it would never match up to the scale of TOR. One of the things I like best about TOR is the multiple storylines. I've found classes like the Bounty Hunter and Smuggler are far more fun than the Jedi/Sith plotlines and force users are always the focus of a KOTOR game.
Also, playing TOR with a friend makes it a million times more enjoyable. I've gotten bored with the grind a number of times playing on my own, but when a friend or two joins up with me it's a whole different experience, the combat is quick and fun and it's really interesting to see how conversations play out as a group. It adds a level of unpredictability to the story which is nice.
So, If I could get a KOTOR with 8 different storylines and co-op that would be great, but for the moment I'm happy with TOR.
But I agree with the sentiments expressed by some people here: Why can't we have both?
Also, playing TOR with a friend makes it a million times more enjoyable. I've gotten bored with the grind a number of times playing on my own, but when a friend or two joins up with me it's a whole different experience, the combat is quick and fun and it's really interesting to see how conversations play out as a group. It adds a level of unpredictability to the story which is nice.
So, If I could get a KOTOR with 8 different storylines and co-op that would be great, but for the moment I'm happy with TOR.
But I agree with the sentiments expressed by some people here: Why can't we have both?
I would have preferred a new IP single-player RPG. However, if it had to be Star Wars, I'd prefer a single-player RPG by Bioware or Obsidian, basically anything that isn't an MMO.
It looks like Bioware tried giving TOR a single-player focus with an MMO bit but I haven't actually played the thing. As someone above said, I don't see why there couldn't have been both (unless of course they really did spent $500 million or however much to make TOR). The thing is, I wouldn't have played the MMO if it was free mainly because of how weak my PC is but also because I don't care for MMOs in general.
Yes, I would have preferred a proper Knights of the Old Republic 3 especially since Sith Lords was rushed out the door so hard that it forgot to pack a majority of its C-Plot. I know I've said this before though and I also known I've gone on to say this: "I know now how Warcraft fans must have felt when they found out they were getting an MMO instead of another RTS".
Yes, I would have preferred a proper Knights of the Old Republic 3 especially since Sith Lords was rushed out the door so hard that it forgot to pack a majority of its C-Plot. I know I've said this before though and I also known I've gone on to say this: "I know now how Warcraft fans must have felt when they found out they were getting an MMO instead of another RTS".