Poll: Would you hook up with/date a trans person?

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Good question, and one I'm not sure I can answer.
On one hand, my desire for dating or even casual sex is virtually non-existent, boarding on asexual (no, I can't be bothered quibbling over definitions).
On the other hand, as low as my desire is, my sexuality is rather vague and ill defined, with massive quotes around "straight".

Would I kiss a trans person? Probably. Would I have sex with them? No so sure.
My main issue would be what exactly there is to greet me down there. I've kind of wondered this, but how closely does a sex change operation end up resembling the real thing?
 

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I don't think you could find a single trans-sexual considering or having undergone op that is not internally crippled with serious self-hatred...
 

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Leon Royce said:
I don't think you could find a single trans-sexual considering or having undergone op that is not internally crippled with serious self-hatred...
I have to echo this sentiment. While I have met many a nice trans individual they've always come with far more emotional/psychological baggage than the average person.

I'm too pragmatic to deal with such things so I'll settle for folks without those social issues.
 

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I don't theoretically have a problem with it. Problems ensue when you get practical, people aren't all in the same situation with their bodies, desires, emotions,... so it makes for one awfully awkward exchange to work out how things stand with them.

And I have enough problems dealing with "regular" people as it is, another layer of complications does not bode well.
 

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I figured that since I picked the: "I'm trans and none of these apply to me" I might as well comment for once. Hm. Anyways, while I am bisexual, I don't want to hook up with anyone now, to me sex is sorta icky with the "parts" I have now. Sure, I can get turned on and all that fun stuff, but having sex with sexual parts you find outright disgusting (as in, my own) is... not going to happen. That's sorta why I'm going to either get an operation, or live a life without sex, the latter of which sounds a lot less fun.

Oh, I'm FtM, btw, which might make a difference, I dunno.

Now, lets say I had the right tools for the job... then sure. Only thing is that I've never been attracted to women/men with both breasts and a penis. The other way around is fine, women/men with no breasts and a vagina would be fine, but the whole "boobs + penis" thing is a bit... odd to me. Could be okay with it, I'm not sure, the other person's body has never been my main concern, clearly a pretty face is by far the most important. (I'm vain, but in a more personal way).

So, I suppose my answer is that I'd be fine with both dating and hooking up with transgendered people, but not at the moment. I don't want to date anyone now, because that'd be such a mess to explain and deal with, and ugh.

Leon Royce said:
I don't think you could find a single trans-sexual considering or having undergone op that is not internally crippled with serious self-hatred...
Hello, I am a transsexual who is not only considering, but have applied for the whole program, and I am not crippled with serious self-hatred. Actually, I'm closer to crippled by my over-the-top self-confidence, because I'm arrogant as fuck. :p

It's nice to meet you.
 

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Not pre-op. Maybe not post-op, but I wouldn't be able to answer that one with any certainty until I had encountered the situation, which I have not. At the very least, having kids isn't an issue, since I already have one of those(she lives with my ex-wife). Hard to say, really. The idea itself doesn't weird me out(I'm just not going to have sex with someone who also has a penis is all), so it really just comes down to a matter of attraction. Whether I would be or not isn't something I can give a blanket answer to.
 

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Bisexual and trans myself. Why yes of course I would. I don't know what more to add, it is really that simple. I guess I can add that other transfeminine people have an easier time relating to me, my relation to my body and so on. Which means things get simpler when it comes to sex. Otherwise I am not that fuzzy with the details. Intelligence, empathy and a fun eccentric personality is far more important in my book.
 
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No, I'd be quite freaked out TBH. Not only is it too weird, I wouldn't want to have someone in my life with that level of psychological issue. I'd prefer someone normal without the "issues" in the first place.
 

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Oddly enough, it was the Night Vale fanfic community that helped me to understand some of the issues that trans people are facing, and to better empathize with them (even so much as trying to figure out whether they can go to the bathroom without making anyone else uncomfortable or getting harassed themselves). I'm quite grateful for that, as I'm writing a couple intersex characters in the cast of an upcoming project, and while they aren't major characters I did want to treat them as human beings and with appropriate sympathetic awareness of what their reality is like. I just didn't expect to find that via fanfics of a guy dating a thoroughly endearing tentacle beast (life is funny sometimes).

I don't think I could ever be comfortable marrying a man who is genetically female -- but that's tied in with my religious beliefs, that the soul at its creation (first breath) has a gender, that the genders have particular characteristics to highlight deeper truths about reality beyond our limited space-time, that a corruption or "curse" happened across all creation when Adam sinned and that it blurred the lines between genders (essentially, we had a Platonic ideal two-party system beforehand, and that got all screwed up). But I equally wouldn't marry a man with long hair or earrings, and for roughly the same reason (symbolism of deeper truths), so it's not like gender is The One Big Thing with me; it's just a set of standards that I've grown up with.

(And I do think that gender identity is tied to getting the wrong hormones in the womb (they've done this with rats, and they'll totally act like the opposite gender), so it's not the person's fault that they feel this way, and since it's the brain doing it and not a choice, it makes zero sense to harass them over it. How they care to dress or talk or whatever is nobody's business but their own, and it's not like it's hurting anybody.)

I think I could marry an intersex man. I don't believe that God meant for the entire group of intersex people to be celibate, nor indeed to marry only other intersex people, so it makes sense that they should be acceptable in normal marriages and I shouldn't have a problem with it. Intellectually, I think it shouldn't be any weirder than marrying a guy with any other genetic abnormality or deformity... though I don't know how I'd feel about it if I actually were in that situation, and sometimes our feelings don't match our rational understanding of things (you can be disgusted by something that you reasonably shouldn't find disgusting). And in my understanding, intersex covers not only visibly weird stuff between the legs, but also just having a genetic setup that doesn't clearly indicate either male or female (XXY, XXXY, etc.).

I haven't read this entire thread yet but it cheers me to know that the transgender community also thinks it's wrong to deceive someone about your full gender profile en route to sex/marriage. I know that if I ended up married to a guy and found out he'd been born female, I would flat-out divorce him -- not over the gender thing in and of itself, but because failing to share that at an earlier stage in the courtship says some incredibly dark things about that person's character and especially their respect for me and my right to informed consent ("she'll never find out so she doesn't need to know" is like the opposite of respecting me as a person). (Rape by Deceit is an issue I'll be tackling in my project. Like a decade ago I saw an Oprah special about men who realize they're gay after marriage, don't tell their wives, and start sleeping around... and at the time I saw it, I got vibrating mad and saw it as way worse than mere cheating, and I didn't even know why I thought that. Turns out that the statistics back up my intuition: Men who sleep with men are an ASTOUNDINGLY huge jump in STI risk compared to a guy who cheats with other women.)

But, on the other hand, Leftover Soup made me think it over: Where along the courtship line do you say stuff like this? "John, I'm not sure how far this relationship is going to go, but I thought you should know something about me. Or rather, about my body...." You need to convey this information clearly prior to any sexual relationship of any kind -- that includes kissing! -- and prior to getting engaged. But just how far back do you go? And how much do you have to trust a person before you share with them some intimate part of yourself, a secret that could get you fired (still happens!) or ruin some of your relationships to friends and family? And that's not even taking into account the amount of social and linguistic dancing we do to avoid stating the facts in a clear and straightforward manner, or the fear of seeing a relationship crumble after you were taking such comfort in it up to that point. It's a complex issue.
 

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Every time there's one thread about transgender people there's always a few more 'would you X a transgender person?'that crop up.

Either way I don't really date right now but I'd have no issue with it.
 

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If I found them attractive and we got on well, I would. Butt-play can be fun, dicks don't freak me out (I am attached to one), and I've been to some certain websites.

The real question is, why would somebody date me?
 

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My partner of 10 years is trans. I am a stright cis male and my partner is a biolgical female. It's a bit complicated but basically she identifies as male but has no interest in transitioning. We have a wonderful relationship and since I'm attracted to her mind and her body, the fact that she identifies as male does not bother me in the least. Obviously, I do refer to her as "she, her" despite her self-identification but this is because everyone does given how she looks and her disinterest in transitioning. If I walked around calling her "he, him" we'd probably have to explain to people constantly what the real situation was when we'd prefer to keep it a private matter.
 

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chuckman1 said:
lax4life said:
No, doing something that sounds like it would require some amount of effort. Also Alex Jones told me that trans people have super cooties, and nobody wants super cooties.
Don't you know they're part of the gay agenda and the globalist zionist islamist lizard jewish banker conspiracy that got obama the socialist elected ;) Ah Alex Jones what an interesting figure for the people to put their trust in to. BUY MY WATER FILTER THE GOVT WATER IS COMMIE MIND CONTROL.

Idk I just think trans people are sexy, it's like genitals that can seem disgusting on a guy are somehow cute to me on them, and the post op ones can be pretty great to. Hopefully one day I can be part of the jewish islamic gay lizard consspiracy of bankers and try something with a trans girl :)

Alex Jones isn't crazy, he's just a Dragon Ball.
 

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Kilyle said:
I think I could marry an intersex man. I don't believe that God meant for the entire group of intersex people to be celibate, nor indeed to marry only other intersex people, so it makes sense that they should be acceptable in normal marriages and I shouldn't have a problem with it. Intellectually, I think it shouldn't be any weirder than marrying a guy with any other genetic abnormality or deformity... though I don't know how I'd feel about it if I actually were in that situation, and sometimes our feelings don't match our rational understanding of things (you can be disgusted by something that you reasonably shouldn't find disgusting). And in my understanding, intersex covers not only visibly weird stuff between the legs, but also just having a genetic setup that doesn't clearly indicate either male or female (XXY, XXXY, etc.).
Hmmm, I kind of fall into that category given Klinefelter's. But if you are talking Klinefelter's (XXY) specifically, you're still talking males in most biological contexts. But in situations of specifically XXY, etc, it's not technically intersex for the great majority. Your average, run of the mill human has 44 autosomes (regardless of male or female), and a pair of sex chromosomes. 22 pairings of autosomes, 1 pairing of XX or XY. In Klinefelter's where you have increased number(s) of X chromosomes.

What's really interesting is that these are actually typically represented by what is known as 'Barr bodies' in human females. Inactive DNA/RNA untranslated sequences that are present and rendered inert by lyonization. By processes unknown to us still, these Barr bodies that SHOULDN'T interact with cellular mitosis and cell development do in many cases. Leading to a huge degree of differences that are not at all uniform.

So whilst people with Klinefelter's (XXY) it's hard to make determinations in many cases. Your average human female has one barr body and so does XXY males, where as the average human male has zero. BUT the process of an active Y chromosome does impart an easy designation of sex in MOST cases. I like to think of myself as Human+ ... all you pitiful mortals with only 46 chromosomes... though it's not a nice thing to be born with. Whole host of problems.
 

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Probably not, though I can't say I've ever even come close to that situation (don't know any people who have truly went through with operations or other kinds of changes).

Of course it would be different if the trans part were fantasies they were having.
 

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KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime said:
Ihateregistering1 said:
KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime said:
...if you have suspicions it's perfectly okay to ask if someone is trans, or not.
Ok, gonna strongly disagree with you on this one. Seriously, tell any guy to go up to the next woman he meets and ask her whether she was born male or female, and let me know how it turns out for them.
Well I was speaking specifically in the case if someone has suspicions, so thanks for taking a small part of my post out of context. As things go there are ways to tell if someone is trans. The leg spacing on biological men is different from biological women. So that could be used to spur the question in that case.
It doesn't matter if you suspect or not, you're still running a risk, because your average woman is not going to be particularly happy to have someone ask her whether she was born a man or not, even if it comes with a caveat like "I'm asking because you're really tall", or "I'm asking because your leg spacing seems different than most women", or "I'm asking because you have broad shoulders". What you're basically saying is "you have masculine characteristics", and most folks of either gender don't like being asked why they have stereotypical characteristics of the other gender.
 

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Something to keep in mind - No one is ever obligated to be attracted to anyone. So if I say that I'm not attracted to a woman that used to be a man, then that's just how it is.

Is it an arbitrary hang-up on my part? Maybe. But then isn't all sexuality, when it comes down to preferences? If their gender identity is integral to their being, that it's important for them to identify as this and be attracted to that, then be generous enough to let my preferences be integral to my sexual identity.

I'm 100% supportive of trans-people but I'm not interested in a relationship with one. I do wish they were born the right gender to begin with - I hope that is not a controversial statement. I think nature is cruel to let them be born with the wrong gender, not that they are wrong in any way. But I'm not attracted to them, knowing that they were born a different gender. I can't help that any more than they can help their preferences and issues with sexuality.
 
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Honestly not sure.

In real life, I haven't exactly met many trans people. The one person I know was trans was pretty early in his transition, and I didn't find him attractive before or after it (He was also FtM, and I'm not attract to men)

Also, I try to avoid trans porn, on a lot of the principles that I avoid Czech porn. The whole Czech porn, take people off the street and offer them more and more money until they cave and let you do what you want is sleazy as fuck. As well, with the number of trans people who get into porn because they have such difficulty finding other jobs is beyond depression. I try to only watch porn of people who have a better chance of wanting to do it.

So yeah, my answer is basically I don't have much exposure to say. I will say that if I found a trans person attractive, there wouldn't be much barrier towards me dating them.

Sort of Offtopic:

I'm realizing that there's some aspects that I'm woefully uneducated on in this subject. If someone could answer these that would be great.

- If you get your penis/vagina surgically altered, how much sensation is retained?
- Let's say you were a gay FtM transsexual who decided not to get surgery. Would it feel wrong to have sex with a guy as you would with straight couples? Or is this generally very subjective?
 

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Pretty unlikely.

I wouldn't rule it out completely, but, I lack romantic inclinations even at the best of times, and from my experiences with a lot of trans people, there's issues there I just wouldn't really be able to deal with and maintain a healthy relationship with a person.