As long as the game is solid and the story is good (I mention story because if the sexuality of the main character is coming into discussion, then the story is obviously important), then it doesn't matter to me.
Rob Halford. He made leather and studs heterosexual.hcig said:i think weve covered that, sparkle fags are tottaly annoying, but dont act like its some stereotype a bunch of manly men in a room made up to prove how gay gays are.The Great JT said:I would say yes and no. Yes if the story is good and the character's interaction with other characters is tasteful and the homosexuality of the character isn't forced or giving in to stereotypes. No if it's the opposite of the aformentioned.
go to the gay bay, and find me one who isnt sickeningly colorful. if its a stereotype, its one they themselves created through shit like the pride parade
Well I'd say that there are more heterosexual people then homosexual ones. It certainly seems that way, at least. And if that's the case, then heterosexuality IS the norm. That's not discriminatory. That's the norm.ryuutchi said:Internalized prejudice is exceedingly common. That's not really news. That said, our culture is heteronormative-- which is, yes, discriminatory. It supports the idea that heterosexuality is the only sexuality, the only one that's normal, the only one that's okay.Baby Tea said:The assumption of heterosexuality isn't some veiled discrimination. If that's the case, and you assume that unspecified sexuality automatically equals heterosexuality, then you'd be discriminatory against yourself. Seems pretty silly. Again, it doesn't matter.
And you prove this is the case because of the lack of gay heroes in video games? What an air-tight accusation! Why didn't I see if before? Yeah, I understand what aversive prejudice is. But just because there is a lack of gay heroes or characters in games doesn't mean that the industry is discriminatory. Sexuality is rarely mentioned because it doesn't matter. If I'm playing Call of Duty and it's casually thrown out that the guy I'm playing is gay, what happens? Nothing. Is that some big battle won for gay right? No. It's pointless. Just start assuming that non-specific sexuality is gay, and suddenly you'll be amazed at the amount of gay heroes! Save your sensationalism. It's wasted here.(Aversive prejudice: Consciously knowing, and/or professing, that all people are equal, yet subconsciously treating and judging some groups (races, genders, ethnicities) differently.)
Then talk to developers, not players. Nearly everyone here said 'who cares?', including myself. If you've got some beef about this, take it up with those that make the games, not those that play 'em. If this thread is an indication of the average gamers reaction to a gay hero, everyone will just shrug and say the same thing: 'Who cares?'Because it's an interesting twist on an old story. Or a new story to be told. Or just because gay people exist and why shouldn't you?Well not everyone either wants, or cares, about it as much as you. And you seem to be in the minority. Most of the posts on this thread are people saying 'who cares?', and I'm not sure that's localized to the Escapist. If people aren't calling for it, why would the developer even care to implement it?
They do it with heterosexuality all the time, though, so yes. when we've gotten to the point where it's thrown out there that Random Soldier 13 has a boyfriend back home he misses just as easily as it's thrown out that Random Soldier 12 has a girlfriend he misses, then yeah, that's a pretty big battle won. And even more so when it's a main character in a game that has nothing to do with sexuality.Baby Tea said:And you prove this is the case because of the lack of gay heroes in video games? What an air-tight accusation! Why didn't I see if before? Yeah, I understand what aversive prejudice is. But just because there is a lack of gay heroes or characters in games doesn't mean that the industry is discriminatory. Sexuality is rarely mentioned because it doesn't matter. If I'm playing Call of Duty and it's casually thrown out that the guy I'm playing is gay, what happens? Nothing. Is that some big battle won for gay right? No. It's pointless. Just start assuming that non-specific sexuality is gay, and suddenly you'll be amazed at the amount of gay heroes! Save your sensationalism. It's wasted here.
Who says I don't?Then talk to developers, not players. Nearly everyone here said 'who cares?', including myself. If you've got some beef about this, take it up with those that make the games, not those that play 'em. If this thread is an indication of the average gamers reaction to a gay hero, everyone will just shrug and say the same thing: 'Who cares?'
Really, I've never seen a heterosexual male who is that effeminent. Ever.Evil Jak said:Chibz said:Of course they do. It's hard to be taken seriously as a hero if you are gay, so they're thoroughly closeted.Evil Jak said:Have you played any Square Enix game? They all have a heterosexual romance storyline at some point, so no more Square Enix "help" for you at the glory hole.Chibz said:Wait, you mean every male Square Enix character isn't gay?! I'm SHOCKED!
So you really do need them to be gay, huh? Your arguement is that anybody that likes girls is a closeted homosexual... Hmm, well i never.
Just because it's not intended discrimination doesn't mean it isn't accidental discrimination. Honestly, it really sucks when homosexuals are assumed to be straight (especially by homophobes). Talk about awkward.Baby Tea said:The assumption of heterosexuality isn't some veiled discrimination.
habindox said:WHAT!?! I want the Hulk in pink spandex with matching lipstick and rouge in a video game now!!Blood_Lined said:As long as the character isn't all creepy and "showy" about it.
*Did I use my out loud voice just now?*
Vamp does in the storyline, snake killed his boyfriend. Hanah and Rain are in an openly lesbian relationship (a main plotline of the game with ungodly amounts of lesbian loving) and Nintendo has stated that Birdo was actually transgendered. Most characters don't state their sexuality at all which is why i can stomach most love interests in games.AdmiralWolverineLightningbolt said:but like that's my pointLucifus said:And you think that bothers gay people when playing 99.9% of games? Well it does a little but its ignored.AdmiralWolverineLightningbolt said:i wouldnt, but not cause im prejudiced but just cause if the character's sexuality has a need to even be mentioned, i would like it to represent my own
There has been suspect gay/bi main characters in gaming. Solid snake, Chris (Resident evil) and possibly even Gordon Freeman. Both Chris and Gordon has smoking hot women throwing themselves at them and they don't even notice/care.
Theres also Voldo, Liquid snake, Vamp, Raikov, Tingle (Spit), Hanah and Rain (from Fear Effect), Birdo, Alfred Ashford, to name just a few.
To be honest when i reverse this, playing straight characters don't bother me unless they are steriotypical (Which seems to be the same reasoning here too about gay characters). Games with women throwing themselves at gun toting and nauseatingly macho men irritate the life out of me. But then again a camp gay man as a main character sleeping his way through a bar would annoy me too.
none of these characters express their sexuality and same goes for most "straight" gaming characters
if for whatever reason, they do need to show their characters' sexuality then i want it to be my own, i dont want to be playing through as a gay guy (or a lesbian) trying to find their partner (to be fair, i wouldnt want to play that as a straight guy either, sounds kinda boring)
but you get the point
*Spits out tea*bindox said:WHAT!?! I want the Hulk in pink spandex with matching lipstick and rouge in a video game now!!
*Did I use my out loud voice just now?*