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MovieBob takes on the propaganda claims concerning Act of Valor.

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fangedfuzzball

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Bob,

I often find your reviews to be very useful not to mention entertaining. I found your "Act of Valor" review to be surprising and this article well articulates why. While I have not yet seen the film I will now because of your review. I, a former Marine, had written the film off as a propaganda piece that I wanted no part of. I have the deepest respect for the SEALs and military personnel in general, having been one and coming from a military family, however i am so tired of seeing the military and the people who serve being used a political cats paws, both in the prosecution of their duty and in their portrayals.

I am intrigued with your assertion that this is an apolitical film and I hope to agree with you once I see it, it would be a welcome change. Thank you for your breakdown in the video and the further explanation in this article. If it honors the inherent badassness of a group of some of the hardest warriors still worthy of the name in our age without pushing an agenda than I for one welcome it.

keep the interesting discussions coming, your critical eye is appreciated.
 

Lunar Templar

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so .... are people butthurt because its not a propaganda movie? o.o? ... funny, i was under the assumption that was a GOOD thing
 

castlewise

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I fully expect "Bronies: What Has Feminist Academia Done To Our Boys?" to be a Fox News headline/story within a year.
Why would you even say that. Fox might be listening right now, looking for new terrible ideas that sound faintly plausible! *puts on tinfoil hat*
 

Prof. Monkeypox

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I think I've already seen something about Fox news talking about the Bronies that way... or maybe it was a moment of precognition.
 

Wil213

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As a film student, Ive seen polical propaganda films and this really dosn't seem like one. [Yet to see it, don't think its out in the UK at all right now.] If you wasnt propagande flms, look at the stuff produced during WWII. [All countries did it so no claiming ya didn't]
This just seems like an action film with a stik of having the SEAL's as actors. [For the record; I think SEAL's are badasses and respect goes out to them with the rest of the armed forces too.] I would think the same if the Royal Marines or the SAS did the same for a UK action film.
 

StreetBushido

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As always, Bob makes a lot of sense by just being reasonable and fairly level-headed. Additionally, as a european I can watch whatever happens in the US at a fairly safe distance, turning the US' political shenanigans into a bit of a curiosity show.
 

uneek

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I think the message you can take from this situation is not caring what people say about you. Someone always has a complaint about something you said in any video. Me, I just accept the fact that you can't read my mind so you can't say things according to what I want to hear.
 

Smokescreen

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Odd: I read the criticism of Bob's review of Act of Valor to be this: he didn't hold that movie up to the same standards as he does other movies, because of the potential blowback of saying something negative about America's military personnel.

I figured this was due to an audience (the audience being the world, when you're online) that cannot distinguish between criticism of a movie and criticism of military forces. Who wants to have to explain themselves a billion times when once should be enough? I wouldn't blame him for holding back.

But I do not wish to speak for Bob; he does fine on his own.

I still don't want to see it, because it's just too weird for me to have a movie with actual, active military people in a real world scenario. Just like the CoD games give me a great deal of pause-I've only played one-and WW2 (or any videogame based on an actual conflict) makes me uncomfortable.

I just don't have a taste for games where people were really killed. It feels dishonorable for some reason.

But that's just me! Everyone else should do as they feel best: See the movie, whatever.
 

Vault Citizen

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Personally my problem wasn't that you contextualised your argument I just felt that lthr ratio of contextualisation to review was slightly skewed (I understand that this article wasn't aimed at me I was just offering a different reason for why someone might have been unhappy with your review. Though I could have just been impatient)
 

Penguinishka

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I was disappointed with your Escape to the Movies today. Just not a movie I have any inkling to see. But THIS, I loooved this!
Thank you for putting into words how I feel about EVERYTHING in the USA being politicized. It's ridiculous and I really hope it's just because of this seemingly eternal and divisive election year.
 

Nooners

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Amen, Bob. While I disagree with a lot of your politics, this was a very smart and enlightening article. Really enjoyed it, thanks a lot.
 

antidonkey

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I've become way too jaded with how everything is political these days. All it has done is boil things down to two simple concepts: democrats are pussies and republicans are insane. Obviously there are exceptions but it seems like they get dismissed and waved off by their own parties without a second thought.
 

Zhukov

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And then, with one little link, Bob ruined Adam Baldwin... forever.

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Man, that was depressing. I'm gonna look for something that'll make me smile...


Ahhh... never fails.
 

BrotherRool

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Wow that article you linked to is a whole bunch of crazy. It's stupid but it's going to make it harder to enjoy Adam Baldwin in films knowing he thinks liking non-Americans is a dark and controversial message. I wish it was a spoof. Is it?
 

conflictofinterests

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What? I can't use this to back my erroneous and antagonistic claims? How strange! I suppose next you'll be saying that rainbows don't mean anything! Or that political economic views don't appear to have any relation to legitimate macroeconomics!
 

XMark

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castlewise said:
I fully expect "Bronies: What Has Feminist Academia Done To Our Boys?" to be a Fox News headline/story within a year.
Why would you even say that. Fox might be listening right now, looking for new terrible ideas that sound faintly plausible! *puts on tinfoil hat*
There was one anti-brony piece run by Fox news a while ago - they were just kind of generally making fun of bronies though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqEDIFfy4Yg