Porn, what's your opinion?

[LostAlone]

I always laugh when feminists complain that porn drives crime against women; Japan, per capita, consumes a lot more porn, and much more of it based around more risque subjects, and the rate of violent crime targeting women in Japan is miniscule, even when compared to Canada, let alone the US.

It's also interesting to note that much of the BDSM I've come across typically involves females doms, and a fair proportion of male subs.

Yup yup.

It's also funny that they claim that the fashion of women in porn having entirely shaved pubes encourages pedophilia when sexual crimes against children, while still unhappily high, haven't increased at all and certainly not because of this.

And yeah, females as the dominant seems to be more popular. It's probably because the kind of guys who get off on being in charge don't get the same enjoyment out of watching it, while there is much more vicarious thrill from seeing someone else being dominated.

 

[Felix 'Solomon' Hultgren]

As long as it's legal, consentual and not shoved in my face I see no problem with porn.

 

[DanDanikov]

I think there are various problems with porn. Firstly, I don't know what the current culture and atmosphere is like in adult industry, but there are arguments against porn because it enabled and funds the exploitation of women. I don't think this is true for all adult productions, but it's a difficult matter to breach, as the relationship between porn and its consumers is very tentative and often anonymised.

The other main problem is the potential effect on consumers of porn. I don't think porn is solely the cause for distorting people's perspective on sexuality, but the absence of other sources of information- especially given parents unwillingness to educate their children, or allow schools to educate them, in the name of preserving their innocence- can cause porn to be the sole source of sexual education. It's much less surprising that, without the contextual understanding that porn is idealised and targeted to be as entertaining as possible, that some may develop unhealthy sexual attitudes because of porn. Much in the same way you get some kids that are brought up on wrestling and are inappropriately rough.

On the other hand, porn can be quite diverse and to anyone adventurous enough, it can actually be quite enabling to help discover alternate forms of sexuality and many of the interesting and varied niches that exist. I suspect it's far more common for porn to act as a gateway to self-discovery rather than a primer on sexist, self-centric sexual behaviour.

 

[xplay3r]

It is an.....interesting thing.
I mean - on the basest level - porn is simultaneously pure masculine driven escapism, much like, say, brothels and action movies, while being a gross example of human degradation and exploitation, much like.....well.....brothels and action movies.
Porn is the lowest common denominator of entertainment, and despite the various opinions about the destruction of the feminine image, the death of basic human decency etc. it has been, and always will be, a form of entertainment designed to make money.
I mean...the media marketing adage is basically 'sex sells', and so porn will always sell.

Personally - I'm not a great fan of porn.
Perhaps I should do some more research into the subject...see if my opinion changes.

I was signed out, wasn't going to comment on it he thread just reading it cuz I was to lazy to sign in. lol
Then I saw your post.
I have gain like 3000 points of respect for you, and I don't even think I've ever run into you before.
While I personally disagree slightly with your opinion, your post was great for one reason only. The last line
"Perhaps I should do some more research into the subject...see if my opinion changes."
not many people would do that, and its really good to see someone decide to try and educate themselves because they aren't 100% on the subject. maybe im over reacting, but it was just really cool to see someone say "well this is my opinion but I dont know everything about the subject, so maybe i should learn more to see if that opinion is accurate to how I feel"

OP- I watch it, and like most other people here, if no one is being hurt it's fine to me. I don't think it makes women objects. Maybe some guys get that way because of it, but you have to be prone to that way of think already. I think that its just about the sexual attraction to women. If you find the women attractive, then she arouses you, that doesn't necessarily mean you only want women for sex, you can still find a women and be with her because who she is, and just because your physically attracted to a women doesn't mean you want to be with her.

I guesse the short version is
Lust is not Love
and Love is not just lust.

 

[Grell Sutcliff]

porn is awesome especially Hentai but why is there so much rape in Hentai anyways.

 

[Araksardet]

In principle, nothing wrong with it. But so much of it is just so shoddy that it fails to be arousing on every level. Even on those YouTube-style porn repositories, the vast majority of them are lame, with some jerk cracking stupid jokes and moaning clichés throughout the whole thing. "Professional" pornography is even worse, I've never enjoyed any of that. Hentai can be sexy (All that stuff that could never happen in real life? Well, what's fantasy for?), but there's a lot of borderline child porn in hentai that makes me really uncomfortable, and I try to avoid hentai to avoid stumbling across that kind of thing. Plus, guro is just horrible.

As to the misogyny thing - it depends on what kind of porn it is. Apparently, it's been found that non-violent pornography does not promote misogynistic beliefs, only violent pornography (as well as violent non-pornography). To quote a paper I was reading:

"According to two researchers, whose studies were ?cited throughout the two-volume work,? the large government study condemned pornography, but failed to reveal that violent content, rather than explicit sexual content, was shown to have a greater impact on adult males? attitudes toward rape and sexual aggression (Donnerstein and Linz). In controlled studies, males who were shown pornographic sex without violence had more *negative* attitudes toward rape than males who were shown violence without sex."

(full text here: http://www.frankwbaker.com/MediaLitEd.pdf)

I've never really bought into the notion that explicit pictures of a couple having sex automatically contribute to viewers seeing women as objects. I feel that argument applies more appropriately to hardcore BSDM videos (with female subs and male doms, of course, which is actually rarer than the opposite), "violent sex" videos, guro hentai and similar things; though I don't think that kind of pornography has the same effect on everyone, either, and pornography is never a primary factor in a person's behavior unless it is a primary element in their life.

But if it's the kind of sex that happens every day in hundreds of bedrooms in every major city, I can't imagine how it would have a serious impact on a person, unless they consume insane amounts of the stuff. And that would still be meaningless - insane amounts of *anything* can distort your thoughts. There was a time I played so much Minecraft I started perceiving the buildings and ground around me in blocks. That doesn't mean it makes sense to say Minecraft destroys your ability for spatial reasoning or perceiving non-Euclidean geometry.

 

[ReservoirAngel]

I believe porn is awesome

 

[Matt Oliver]

i enjoy it, IMO more porn commpanies should follow kink.com, I get that since its a BDSM kinda deal that they need the stricter rules, but still with the proportinate pay if you want to stop early, and also some of the rules they have could be applied throughout the porn industry.

 

[Simon Pettersson]

Porn is alright. Don´t have anything against it. Can help people to learn new things.

 

[floppylobster]

It's gone very downhill in the last 10-20 years but is slowly making a comeback. Plots are not essential but there needs to be some point to the scene, some direction, some camera work, some lighting and actual people with charisma to make it work. Not just... well you know. The video camera era led to some really shoddy crap where any fool could film some amateur having sex. Not that amateurs can't be great, but just sex (especially when filmed close up) is not porn. Luckily there's now so much stuff out there that the cream, if you'll excuse the pun, is rising to the top, and people are trying to copy what works. So it's slowly getting better and the dearth of half-arsed porn (to drop another pun) is fading into obscurity where it belongs. Look at any top torrents on porn sites and you'll see the public still know quality when they see it. It's just a shame most of the directors making the stuff seem to have lost touch with any sense of sexuality and don't know how to create quality porn so just go for a hit and miss approach instead. And so concludes about as much thought as I'll ever put into porn ever again.

 

[Android2137]

I don't watch it. I can't even watch sex scenes in normal movies! It's the voyeurism aspect. It's like I'm in the the room with them and they don't know it and I am forced to invade their privacy. And for some reason, no matter what I do, they remain completely oblivious to me and perceive no reason to stop and let me out. I'm weird like that...

 

[Num1d1um]

All day every day. I like porn, yea.

 

[Tsaba]

I guess if you don't have any imagination then it's perfectly fine, we as human beings have had porn around for a really long time.

 

[Stasisesque]

I understand the purpose behind it, but I think that deriving sexual pleasure from somebody else having sex with somebody is depraved and deviant behaviour. Softcore pornography of the sort in lads' mags is more tolerable to me; at least I can imagine myself having sex with the woman in question, rather than somebody else.

I also believe that there are too many people around today with no imagination, no ability to get aroused without the crutch of pornographic material.

The depraved, deviant nature of voyeurism is one of the reasons some do enjoy porn. The idea, even, that it is considered depraved can be arousing to some.

 

[BNSNightshade]

just as long as it's in good taste, everyone's adult, and no one is hurt, why the hell not?

 

[DannyHale09]

That must be weird.

 

[HandsomeZer0]

There isn't enough of it.

 

[Anadinolin]

I love it, maybe a little to much....my love of it will dwindle when i get a girlfriend

on that note im looking anyone wanna be my gf? lol

 

[Conza]

hey, this should be pretty straight forward. What is your opinion on pornography? As a girl...it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I think some porn can be quite arousing actually. I'm interested to see what others think.

Bravo! That's so awesome to hear.

Anyway, it serves a purpose, unfortunatley as it is, the internet is filled with the stuff, and it can be bad for the very young (under 12/13), but I think overall, it should continu, discreetley, but not blatently.

PS. AGAIN! The bloody ads! Escapist, stop this! Another time, and I'm starting a thread about it, what was wrong with the previous system? I proved I wasn't a net-bot, and you let me post, why profit over it now? Extremely infruriating! I hope the 'paying' members aren't treated with such distain for making each post with a captcha now. Extremely bad form.