It's not about what they took from other games. I would never say WoW was the first to do most of what makes it an MMO, but look at everything it's done and rehauled. There are quite a few reasons it's still around and still picking up players. it pretty much single-handedly killed the subscription-based business model to the point where other games have to go free-to-play just to make any money, if they don't collapse after 2-3 years for lack of focus and interest.AC10 said:What did WoW not seal from EQ, EQ2, Lineage and RO?Manicotti said:The suggestion that WoW *isn't* a good game is just bullshit. By all means go ahead and don't find it the genre or game you like personally, but saying that WoW hasn't done pretty much everything right for what it is - from innovation in its gameplay technology to its success in creating a degree of accessibility that every form of entertainment inherently aspires to - is nothing more than ignorant, to put it nicely.AC10 said:Since when does quality equate to the number of people who use a product? To put this in perspective, Justin Bieber's album "My World" is the second best selling album of 2010.Warrior Irme said:Certainly that World of Warcraft game can't be a good game, I mean it only has 14 million players for a reason.ionveau said:I feel portal 2 is going to be bad, hype is not a thing that equals good games e.g world of warcraft
On Topic I love the different personalities of the characters. Creating non-human characters with personality is not an easy thing to do right.
It innovated shit, as someone who has played dozens of MMOs it was basically the same as all the others to me. I can see if it was your first MMO how you would be blown away with it, but if you've been playing online roleplaying games since MUDs came out there really isn't much about WoW that is going to knock your socks off or can't be found elsewhere.
Warrior Irme said:Certainly that World of Warcraft game can't be a good game, I mean it only has 14 million players for a reason.ionveau said:I feel portal 2 is going to be bad, hype is not a thing that equals good games e.g world of warcraft
On Topic I love the different personalities of the characters. Creating non-human characters with personality is not an easy thing to do right.
JB is targeted at a very specific niche, one that you're not part of (Truthfully, JB doesn't suck. At all.). WoW has the same response from people who don't care for fantasy RPGs, but their opinion is irrelevant, as they never targeted them in the first place. The target audience have all stood up and said "IT'S AMAZING!!!!" so therefore, it is a good game. Just like JB is a good artist. (Oh, yes I did!)AC10 said:Since when does quality equate to the number of people who use a product? To put this in perspective, Justin Bieber's album "My World" is the second best selling album of 2010.Warrior Irme said:Certainly that World of Warcraft game can't be a good game, I mean it only has 14 million players for a reason.ionveau said:I feel portal 2 is going to be bad, hype is not a thing that equals good games e.g world of warcraft
On Topic I love the different personalities of the characters. Creating non-human characters with personality is not an easy thing to do right.
How often do they come together in one game?AC10 said:What did WoW not seal from EQ, EQ2, Lineage and RO?Manicotti said:The suggestion that WoW *isn't* a good game is just bullshit. By all means go ahead and don't find it the genre or game you like personally, but saying that WoW hasn't done pretty much everything right for what it is - from innovation in its gameplay technology to its success in creating a degree of accessibility that every form of entertainment inherently aspires to - is nothing more than ignorant, to put it nicely.AC10 said:Since when does quality equate to the number of people who use a product? To put this in perspective, Justin Bieber's album "My World" is the second best selling album of 2010.Warrior Irme said:Certainly that World of Warcraft game can't be a good game, I mean it only has 14 million players for a reason.ionveau said:I feel portal 2 is going to be bad, hype is not a thing that equals good games e.g world of warcraft
On Topic I love the different personalities of the characters. Creating non-human characters with personality is not an easy thing to do right.
It innovated shit, as someone who has played dozens of MMOs it was basically the same as all the others to me. I can see if it was your first MMO how you would be blown away with it, but if you've been playing online roleplaying games since MUDs came out there really isn't much about WoW that is going to knock your socks off or can't be found elsewhere.
Surely hype would have very little bearing on the actual game, only people's expectations of it?ionveau said:I feel portal 2 is going to be bad, hype is not a thing that equals good games e.g world of warcraft
Same. I guess we can expect it to be similar to Portal was, and we've seen some stuff with the new features, but it's always good to get a good idea of what's what.Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:Yeah....As adorable as those robots are, I was kind of hoping for some gameplay.
Yeah, World of Warcraft sucks... and the 12,000,000 playerbase is bullshit too, they're all wrong. [/sarcasm]ionveau said:I feel portal 2 is going to be bad, hype is not a thing that equals good games e.g world of warcraft
Ninja'd.SnipErlite said:D'awwwwww.
Come on, that's cute!
I FUCKING WANT THIS GAME.
Hype is not a thing that equals bad games either. The Dark Knight was hyped like hell but it still delivered. As for Portal 2 it looks like it good very well be a good game as it appears to be doing exactly what a sequel should do i.e take the good stuff from the first game and build upon it.ionveau said:I feel portal 2 is going to be bad, hype is not a thing that equals good games e.g world of warcraft
People are complaining? Don't get me wrong the people on this thread seem to have some trivial problems but those seem more like nitpicks than actual complaints. Also ever think Gabe Newell might be trying to make a good game instead of fleecing everyone for a quick buck? I know he kinda did that with L4D2 but that was ONE time.manythings said:Gabe Newell can't hear anyones complaints over the sound of the money press.
And Justin Bieber is an amazingly good musician, look at all the fans he has! :OWarrior Irme said:Certainly that World of Warcraft game can't be a good game, I mean it only has 14 million players for a reason.ionveau said:I feel portal 2 is going to be bad, hype is not a thing that equals good games e.g world of warcraft
I agree, but not for the colors, It was more the way they sounded when they 'talked' to one another (Orange had a higher pitch and Blue had a lower Pitch).Dr. Paine said:Welp, it's official, Orange is going to be my character whenever I play co-op, I love her. (Using 'her' because I have just got the notion of Orange being more of a feminine personality and Blue being masculine stuck in my head, disregard if you do not like it)