Wait, so are the Rebels still the rebellion or is the new sith people now the new rebels?Frankster said:The rebellion really likes to hand out the general title around doesn't it?
First Han, then Lando, now Leia. As far as Im concerned 3 people who don't really have reason to be named Generals and nothing they have ever done suggested they would be a good fit for the role (simply being a badass doesn't transform you into napoleon), especially compared to all the other personel the rebellion has.
As far as I know every other rebel you see that has a military rank of significance earnt their spurs and tended to be either clone war vets or ex imperials officers (which was the case for Han..ok nevermind, he gets a pass after all, but Lando doesn't have that excuse! His entire background was in administration or doing business!).
Other then that, nothing much to say, guess Leia ditched the title so as to be less reminded of Alderaan.
As far as I know the Empire didn't collapse and still holds the majority of the galaxy so the rebels would still be the rebels I believe... But keep in mind I haven't been given any advance viewing of episode 7 so I'm very likely to be incorrect, my impressions are purely informed by what I've come across randomly when net browsing.Coruptin said:Wait, so are the Rebels still the rebellion or is the new sith people now the new rebels?
Well the planet that she had her royalty through was blowed up (spelling intentional). So you know, hard to be royalty of a planet that doesn't exist. Seems a reasonable change to me, on a production level, and as the character. I mean really, nothing that she did in the movies had anything to do with her royal status Her involvement with the rebellion was based on her position as a diplomat and politician, not as a princess. Her actions were in fact in spite of her royal status, and she was just doing what she needed to, to save what lives she could.Coruptin said:Yeah, fuck princesses. I mean, ewwwww, who even likes that girly stuff? Only soldiers and generals can be cool bad-asses.
Remember to buy GENERAL Leia toys kids!
Pretty much. iirc it was only Han who called her princess in Ep.5 and that was a snark at her until she told him to knock it off. That was the last time she was called princess in the movies. This to me is simply the title fitting the position at this point.Fox12 said:What are you talking about? Leia was only a princess in Episode 4. Even in the original trilogy they downplayed her royalty, and it was almost totally forgotten by episode 5. If you think they're making shit up, then you clearly haven't seen the movies. Her planet is gone. In Episode 5 we see her commanding soldiers during the battle of Hoth with General Rieeken, and in Episode 6 she's leading a ground assault on Endor. For all intents and purposes she was already a general.
-Couriers Death Star plans via blockade runner. Quick thinking leads to escape of PlansDragonlayer said:A more serious point: does Leia have any military experience to justify such a high rank, or is it simply a replacement title?
Whats this? Things happen off-screen? No way, no how. If the movie opens with the suggestion that they aren't still hanging around on Endor holding a many times after-party, I will be very upset at the breach of continuity and personally blame Abrams for ruining Star Wars forever.Basement Cat said:Is it possible that things might have happened over the course of those three decades that directly led to Leia's current title as being "General"?
You and I should hang our heads in shame for slashing this thread's debate....Veylon said:Whats this? Things happen off-screen? No way, no how. If the movie opens with the suggestion that they aren't still hanging around on Endor holding a many times after-party, I will be very upset at the breach of continuity and personally blame Abrams for ruining Star Wars forever.Basement Cat said:Is it possible that things might have happened over the course of those three decades that directly led to Leia's current title as being "General"?
Fox12 said:Actually, according to the new canon book Aftermath (which is bad as far as literature goes but nowhere near some of the old canon levels) Mon Mothma is became the leader of the New Republic and made her homeworld of Chandrila the capital and OH MY GOD I AM A FUCKING NERD!Paradoxrifts said:What gets me is that people obviously don't get what's going on here. Leia has replaced Mon Mothma as the leader of the rebellion.
Back to the topic at hand: I have no problems with Leia being called general. Seriously, the planet she was princess of is 35 years dead for Christ's sake. Real life royals have abdicated their titles for far less. She has had plenty of military experience across all three movies, from helping to plan the assault on the first Death Star, planning the evacuation of Hoth, to leading the freaking ground assault at the Battle of Endor. She has for all intents and purposes, earned her stars (or whatever they use).
On the subject of elective monarchies and young royals, yeah there are shit tons of examples of both. Poland, the Holy Roman Empire, Venice and hell even the Vatican were all elective monarchies (and the Vatican still is).
I dunno, she attacked her sister twice just because she wanted to talk to her about her problems. That part always struck me with domestic abuse vibes so I always felt uncomfortable with that. I'm not sure anna should be that willing to forgive her, especially willing to take a death blow for her at the end when she still hasn't apologized or anything.Eclipse Dragon said:Dark Knifer said:Uhh, did we watch the same movie?Eclipse Dragon said:past Disney queens have been evil, but Elsa isn't,.
She wasn't evil, she just couldn't control her powers and she ended up good in the end...
(Though Frozen 2 still has yet to happen).
Yeah that makes sense in fiction, but I think this is mostly a marketing move. Boys don't buy princess toys, but they like generals.Happyninja42 said:Well the planet that she had her royalty through was blowed up (spelling intentional). So you know, hard to be royalty of a planet that doesn't exist. Seems a reasonable change to me, on a production level, and as the character. I mean really, nothing that she did in the movies had anything to do with her royal status Her involvement with the rebellion was based on her position as a diplomat and politician, not as a princess. Her actions were in fact in spite of her royal status, and she was just doing what she needed to, to save what lives she could.
Always felt more to me like she just couldn't control her powers well enough. Both times seemed like accidents to me. Or at least that was the impression I got, anyway.Dark Knifer said:Elsa may not be a villain but damn she did some bad things in that movie that I personally don't think she was even close to atoning for. Feel free to disagree with it, each to their own.
This is quite off-topic now but oh wellKajin said:Always felt more to me like she just couldn't control her powers well enough. Both times seemed like accidents to me. Or at least that was the impression I got, anyway.Dark Knifer said:Elsa may not be a villain but damn she did some bad things in that movie that I personally don't think she was even close to atoning for. Feel free to disagree with it, each to their own.
Yes, it's great for women's liberation that she gets to keep her own father's surname.Pallindromemordnillap said:If we're talking feminism then its nice she gets to keep a name of her own and not take one of the guys' ones
It's not going to work. I tried that with the black Stormtrooper. Apparently, The Doctor passed through and time locked th whole scene.Basement Cat said:Is it possible that things might have happened over the course of those three decades that directly led to Leia's current title as being "General"?
Wait a second, if you're a cat, shouldn't your lightsaber be red? Or did you take that off a dead Jedi?*purrs*