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mike1921

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x0ny said:
In prostitution, the actual prostitute can be the victim being forced into prostitution against their will, that's why it's made illegal, to scare away potential clients and induce a decline in the industry so that the number of victims will hopefully be reduced.
That is counter-intuitive. If it is legal and regulated it's easier to make sure the prostitute wasn't forced into it.
 

BonsaiK

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aseelt said:
So I replied to the posting on dating a porn star, and sent the link to my wife. She brought up an interesting point.

Prostitution is illegal in most of the United States, yet pornography is (as far as she and I know) legal. Porn stars basically get paid for having sex with other porn stars.

My wife quite correctly stated: you could be a prostitute, but rather than charge for a sexual service, you would charge for a sex tape of the performed act (yes I realise sex on tape is a fantasy for men and women)

Do you think this point has merit?
Someone brings up exactly this point in the film "Sex: The Annabel Chong Story", a film that I highly recommend to anyone reading this thread who is interested in these issues. Basically, it's the cameras that change the situation from an illegal act (prostitution) into a legal act (making a film). I wonder how it works in the city where I live, where prostitution is legal but making a pornographic film is not...
 

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Jadak said:
canadamus_prime said:
Sightless Wisdom said:
Well I live in Canada. Prostitution is legal here...In the case of U.S I say your laws are confused and a little bit ironic.
Likewise. Both disgust me in any case.
Porn disgusts you? Congrats on being in an extreme minority.

Being disgusted with certain types of porn is normal (2 Girls 1 Cup anyone?), being disgusted with all porn is...'uncommon'.
Allow me to clarify, I love the sight of a nude woman as much as the next guy, but what I don't enjoy is the sight of a nude woman getting it one with some other guy. That is what I find disgusting. Yes I know sex is a natural part of life etc etc. but watching other people do it is not. It baffles me that anyone in their right mind would want to see that.

EDIT: And I don't even want to know what that '2 girls 1 cup' thing is.
 

Zildjin81

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aseelt said:
So I replied to the posting on dating a porn star, and sent the link to my wife. She brought up an interesting point.

Prostitution is illegal in most of the United States, yet pornography is (as far as she and I know) legal. Porn stars basically get paid for having sex with other porn stars.

My wife quite correctly stated: you could be a prostitute, but rather than charge for a sexual service, you would charge for a sex tape of the performed act (yes I realise sex on tape is a fantasy for men and women)

Do you think this point has merit?
Sorry to quote the OP But,


It's different because pornstars can say no, Prostitutes can't. Also, I hear there's a lot less violence in the porn industry than there is in prostitution.
 

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Sightless Wisdom said:
Well I live in Canada. Prostitution is legal here...In the case of U.S I say your laws are confused and a little bit ironic.
Where I live in Canada, it is certainly illegal.
 

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manaman said:
It would still be illegal. As much as people love to bash lawmakers, they have the benefit of teams of lawyers that gained experience scouring over laws to find loopholes for their clients to exploit. One that large and that obvious is not going to slip by the Justice system, especially when large escort services have already tried to exploit it.
BUUTTT
if they prostitute had the client prepare paperwork to be in a porno...
then it'd work.
nothing sexier than paperwork for foreplay...
 

Blatherscythe

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Prostitutes are murdered all the time. For the sake of the girls lost it shouldn't be a heavy crime, most prostitutes are either drug addicts or sex-slaves (look it up it's terrible), at least just send them to rehab and give them some support to get back on their feet. Prostitution should be legal though would prevent the deaths and pimps because the girls can be open about it.
 

manaman

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MR T3D said:
manaman said:
It would still be illegal. As much as people love to bash lawmakers, they have the benefit of teams of lawyers that gained experience scouring over laws to find loopholes for their clients to exploit. One that large and that obvious is not going to slip by the Justice system, especially when large escort services have already tried to exploit it.
BUUTTT
if they prostitute had the client prepare paperwork to be in a porno...
then it'd work.
nothing sexier than paperwork for foreplay...
Prostitution has historically been defined as a person paying another for sex acts involving themselves.

Pornography involves a third party paying two people to have sex with each other so that that third party, or other fourth parties may watch.

Recording the event is irrelevant.

Blatherscythe said:
Prostitutes are murdered all the time. For the sake of the girls lost it shouldn't be a heavy crime, most prostitutes are either drug addicts or sex-slaves (look it up it's terrible), at least just send them to rehab and give them some support to get back on their feet. Prostitution should be legal though would prevent the deaths and pimps because the girls can be open about it.
Right here is the reason it should be legal. Testing would significantly cut down on the transmission of diseases, and nobody can argue that eliminating the abuse inherent as a part of the profession would be a bad thing.

People are going to seek out prostitutes anyway and most of what they are trying to prevent by making it illegal is better prevented by making it legal, and controlled.
 

Jadak

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canadamus_prime said:
Allow me to clarify, I love the sight of a nude woman as much as the next guy, but what I don't enjoy is the sight of a nude woman getting it one with some other guy. That is what I find disgusting. Yes I know sex is a natural part of life etc etc. but watching other people do it is not. It baffles me that anyone in their right mind would want to see that.
Where does some good old fashioned lesbian porn fit in with that? I know plenty of guys who aren't into 'straight' porn, or at least say they aren't, but very few that aren't in favour of two sexy girls going at it.

canadamus_prime said:
EDIT: And I don't even want to know what that '2 girls 1 cup' thing is.
No, you really, really don't. Consider yourself blessed that you don't know already.
 

tthor

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Pimppeter2 said:
Sightless Wisdom said:
Well I live in Canada. Prostitution is legal here...In the case of U.S I say your laws are confused and a little bit ironic.
Lies, there are places in the Us where prostitution is in fact legal. I.e Parts of Nevada.


Anyways

Us Gov said:
"The United States government takes a firm stance against proposals to legalize prostitution because prostitution directly contributes to the modern-day slave trade and is inherently demeaning."
if you're refering to vegas, its not actually legal there. its just very common
 

londelen

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Guys, it's banned because of the connections to drugs, something the government is at war with. Or so they say.
 

Canadamus Prime

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Jadak said:
canadamus_prime said:
Allow me to clarify, I love the sight of a nude woman as much as the next guy, but what I don't enjoy is the sight of a nude woman getting it one with some other guy. That is what I find disgusting. Yes I know sex is a natural part of life etc etc. but watching other people do it is not. It baffles me that anyone in their right mind would want to see that.
Where does some good old fashioned lesbian porn fit in with that? I know plenty of guys who aren't into 'straight' porn, or at least say they aren't, but very few that aren't in favour of two sexy girls going at it.
Not really into that either, although I don't really mind it as long as there's nothing phallic involved.
 

manaman

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tthor said:
Pimppeter2 said:
Sightless Wisdom said:
Well I live in Canada. Prostitution is legal here...In the case of U.S I say your laws are confused and a little bit ironic.
Lies, there are places in the Us where prostitution is in fact legal. I.e Parts of Nevada.


Anyways

Us Gov said:
"The United States government takes a firm stance against proposals to legalize prostitution because prostitution directly contributes to the modern-day slave trade and is inherently demeaning."
if you're refering to vegas, its not actually legal there. its just very common
There are legal state controlled brothels in many of the more rural counties in Nevada.

Outlawing prostitution is a more of a recent thing anyway.
 

Mozared

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A lot of (US?) laws make no sense in the first place. Like the one that makes it illegal to pick up hitchhikers in some states. If we truly need such laws to protect ourselves from our own stupidity I'd say our race has really gone down the drain.

That said, I accept the possibility that there's an unforeseen reason for those rules. Barring exceptional situations as signs near roads near prisons telling people not to give anyone a ride.
 

GodKlown

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So what about situations where porn stars hold a contest to have sex with a fan, and they record that and sell the video? Am I off, or does this sound vaguely like what you are proposing?
 

MrBirdy

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Well, here in the NEtherlands prostitution has been legal since the start of time. Hence the red light district in Amsterdam =)! I couldn't care less since i find it sad if you have to go there to fulfill your personal needs...
 

Jark212

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manaman said:
It would still be illegal. As much as people love to bash lawmakers, they have the benefit of teams of lawyers that gained experience scouring over laws to find loopholes for their clients to exploit. One that large and that obvious is not going to slip by the Justice system, especially when large escort services have already tried to exploit it.
I sure a lot of lawmakers gladly look the other way due to porn making tons of cash from taxes...

Maybe...