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Naheal

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Psychics are one part psychology, one part manipulator, and one part observational genius.
 

Naheal

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Greyfox105 said:
Obviously a rogue psyker.
I have one way of telling for sure.
If I am in the same area as a rogue psyker, I suffer from spontaneous nosebleeds.
I must investigate!
They must be slain for the Imperium of Man. Shall we send Adepta Sororitas after them?
 

zama174

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I believe in the paranormal realm, there are somethings which science has yet to even begin to be able to quantify. There is no logical explanation for when this stuff really does happen. (As rare as it actually is for something legit to pop up amongst so many fakes)I have honestly had a paranormal experience in the fact that there was a ghost in my house and I really learned all about it, name, past, looks.. But at the same time it was foggy memories, more like a picture with a few bullet points under it.. (Actually looked him up and everything matched up)

Now before people start saying it.. I AM NOT CLAIMING TO BE PSYCHIC!I have no idea how or what happened there, and quite frankly it still freaks me out thinking about it. (While I think it is also cool...) Maybe I was just open minded enough for it to seep into a dream or something IDK..

My point is, we can't explain it. You can go ahead and call spirit and heaven and god and what not.. I am not sure on any of that, I just know that its out there.
 

Katherine Kerensky

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Naheal said:
Greyfox105 said:
Obviously a rogue psyker.
I have one way of telling for sure.
If I am in the same area as a rogue psyker, I suffer from spontaneous nosebleeds.
I must investigate!
They must be slain for the Imperium of Man. Shall we send Adepta Sororitas after them?
No, the Ordo Hereticus can do work without those over-blown monks.
We'll only bring them in if we need this world burned to cinders.
Prepare the Black Ships! Send for the Silent Sisterhood!
 

Naheal

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Greyfox105 said:
Naheal said:
Greyfox105 said:
Obviously a rogue psyker.
I have one way of telling for sure.
If I am in the same area as a rogue psyker, I suffer from spontaneous nosebleeds.
I must investigate!
They must be slain for the Imperium of Man. Shall we send Adepta Sororitas after them?
No, the Ordo Hereticus can do work without those over-blown monks.
We'll only bring them in if we need this world burned to cinders.
Prepare the Black Ships! Send for the Silent Sisterhood!
Are you certain that there is no Chaos taint in the area? We cannot risk it.
 

Katherine Kerensky

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Naheal said:
-For the Emperor Snip-
Are you certain that there is no Chaos taint in the area? We cannot risk it.
No, these ones are just touched by the warp, there is no sign of the hand of chaos guiding them.
They will be captured alive and transported upon the Black Ships to Terra, where they will be soul-bound to do the bidding of the immortal God-Emperor.
The Emperor has a part to play for everyone in his Imperium, even if they are at risk of taint.
 
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Eh, who knows. It might have been an act. She might have been lucky. Hell, she might have been a stalker, or someone who has been to your friend's house. It could be that he just forgot. But, is she truly psychic? Probably not. She's just good at reading faces, reactions and so on.
 

Imsety

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Watch that, all of it if you have the time. All parts together are about an hour long.

If you are ever convinced by psychics after watching that, there's no hope for you. When an illusionist can do five completely unrelated 'psychic' tricks with just trickery and showmanship it tells a lot about the actual mediums themselves, whom are generally quite a bit more vague than this...
 

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Why would a psycic be able to see the future? Wouldn't that just be the ability to read someones mind, thus only allowing a limited view of the future through beable to read what people were thinking about doing?

Just a comment based on many of the comments on the firs page...
 

Korolev

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It is entirely possible that it was a set up. These "psychics" often have shills whose purpose is to entice customers. In fact, you yourself might be one such shill.

You've given me no evidence that would convince me that this woman had any powers. And if she did, would she really be working as a carnival/fair medium charging 5 bucks a pop for a reading? I don't think so.

Claims of psychic power also go against everything we know about the brain. We know that thoughts are just the chemical/electrical interactions between millions of neurons, and we know that memories are stored in these neurons. How would a psychic be able to access this? What mechanic are they using? If they really do have such power, then why haven't they predicted disasters or financial upheavals? If this power is real, why don't more people use it?

I'm sorry, but a sketchy forum post revolving around an anecdotal experience with no hard proof is not very convincing. Every single psychic claim I have encountered has either proven to be fake, a set up or has no proof backing it up. I'm a sceptic, and I will continue to be one, as that makes the most logical sense. Simply put, you need HARD EVIDENCE that this phenomenon exists - it must be verified by multiple impartial judges, it must have a working theory explaining how it might work, and it just.... it just has to be demonstrated. They claim they have this power, yet they only practice it in shady tents at fairs. They claim they can see so much, yet all their "predictions" are vague and can be twisted to fit just about anything. They claim to be so powerful, yet they have so little impact on anything.

It just doesn't add up.

Science has created all the technology around you. It has unlocked the secrets of the stars themselves, the process of nuclear fusion. Using nothing, NOTHING but hard work, logic, mathematics and experimentation, it has created satellites, microwaves, vaccines, genetically modified organisms, air-planes, the internet and, indeed, video games. Recently the scientists at CERN have semi-stably trapped anti-matter for the first time.

Science doesn't know everything - that's why it's still going on. If science thought it knew everything, it would stop! But there is one thing I do know - Science is a far more powerful method for finding out reality than anything else. When stacked up against science, supernatural, spiritualist claims just can't measure up in terms of power or relevance or insight. Science explains so much - how stars work, how DNA works, how organisms grow, how chemical compounds form, how electricity works, how atoms interact and how even light itself works. What have "supernaturalists" or "psychics" achieved in contrast? Basically nothing. Still the same barely believable nonsense they've been touting for centuries.

I find it hard to believe that people will continue to hang on to absurd, outdated models of how the world works. Science is ever-expanding, and is continuously improving and growing more powerful by the day. The old, silly paradigms will just fade away.

Let me put this question to you - say you've been bitten by a rabid dog. Are you going to run off to a witch or herbalist so they can sprinkle a few leaves on you while you slowly succumb to the disease, or are you going to be sensible and go the nearest hospital and get a rabies vaccine? Be honest.

Or how about another question - why is it that life expectancies and sanitation is highest in countries that practice western medicine, and LOWEST in countries that DON'T?! Why is it that polio and small pox disappeared only when science created the necessary vaccines? Seems that the herbal "medicines" weren't able to do the job!

Science is more powerful than the old ways of thinking. Science works. It does. I have manipulated DNA in a lab. I have sequenced it, cloned it, inserted it, and cut it with restriction endonucleases. Unlike the mumbo jumbo of "Spiritualism" and "alternative medicine", I have PROOF that my science works and that the things I talk about exist. I have seen DNA. I have held a eppendorf tube of plasmids in my hand. That is proof, that is power.

What do the other "alternatives" to science have? Mere words and rituals. They can't and haven't produced anything, and they never will.