Why wasn't paypal available when Publishers Club released? It's such a simple and vital feature, it should have been there from the front
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Bear in mind that you're speaking to someone who, several pages back, stated that the only thing left for him at The Escapist is "trolling." Which is why I haven't responded to the individual in question.John Funk said:
As much as I enjoy arguing with a brick wall, I sometimes have to walk away.
I don't really mind the ads.. they're never about games that my computer can run or about products I care about. They're as efficient as sending condom ads to the pope. And they make the Escapist money, so that's nice too. No one loses.
I myself have no intent to buy this publisher thing, but I can see why they're doing it.
I myself have no intent to buy this publisher thing, but I can see why they're doing it.
It depends on a lot of things. Each user looks at different things, and the kind of people that the subscription would appeal to are different than the ones that don't see value in it. For the average user, a subscription would make us more than the ads that that user would otherwise see, but if they're using the extra features that the subscription provides (particularly the high quality videos and the podcasts) then they also cost a lot more to serve than the average user. The goal is for those things to balance out.Andronicus said:
There's no way we could run the high quality videos and podcasts with our normal advertising. On the other hand, if everyone subscribed, we'd make a lot more money than advertising provides. That's not realistic though, because it just doesn't make sense for most people on the site (millions).
Then you'd also have to take into the account the variable reliability of advertising versus the guaranteed revenue of a subscription. We always serve ads, but some campaigns are worth more than others, especially the ones that involve extra work on our end (like the ones that change the site background, or have contests/games involved).
It's kind of a hard question to answer. I suppose the best answer to your question is that any user that subscribes isn't going to hurt our advertising numbers, but that unless an absolutely incredible and unexpected number of people subscribe the amount of money from the subscriptions also won't make a difference compared to advertising revenue.
We've had problems with PayPal in the past. They tend to have a lot of customer service/payment problems and are more of a pain to work with. I was hoping that we wouldn't need to use them at all, but apparently Amazon's claims of international support just don't hold up at the moment.danpascooch said:
I've already had to help out several people whose PayPal subscriptions had problems, compared to only one with Amazon.
Well amount of money is more then reasonable. But there is again huge difference when something is free there is a saying "When free even vinegar is sweet" and I am all about it.
If you'd asked me (why in the name of Christ would you do that) I would strongly oppose premium accounts, because premium members always give me funny looks. I dunno they maybe think they are better then the rest of us, and I don't like class society. If there is not premium account people should be special in forums by talking nicely and intelligently, but now you must only give 20 buck.
I want to suggest one thing, every week or month moderators or admins, choose user who contributed to discussions and give him premium for free, just to encourage people not to speak bullshit.
If you'd asked me (why in the name of Christ would you do that) I would strongly oppose premium accounts, because premium members always give me funny looks. I dunno they maybe think they are better then the rest of us, and I don't like class society. If there is not premium account people should be special in forums by talking nicely and intelligently, but now you must only give 20 buck.
I want to suggest one thing, every week or month moderators or admins, choose user who contributed to discussions and give him premium for free, just to encourage people not to speak bullshit.
Only expensive, well-crafted and aged vinegar is sweet, actually!Srdjan said:
I can't imagine that subscribers will get much in the way of preferential treatment, insofar as forums go (beyond the walled-off forum). Someone insulting someone else for not being a paid member is just as likely to be banned as someone insulting someone else for no reason at all.
You can deposit from your bank account just to fill your PayPal account. Which doesn't take a bloody week, like Amazon.darthmob said:Oh noes, PayPal requires a credit card as well with the reason that the seller only accepts immediate payments.
Didn't see that before with Steam, various Indy-games, mp3-shops etc.
And the majority of debit cards in the world are debit/credit. You *may* be able to just use your debit card, even if it isn't also credit.
