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Virgil

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The Rogue Wolf said:
Here, let me put out a theorem and see if the site staff agrees.

Visiting the Escapist = supporting the Escapist
Participating in the Escapist community = supporting the Escapist
Joining the Publisher's Club = supporting the Escapist
Add in...

Telling other people to visit The Escapist = supporting The Escapist

... and you're absolutely correct.

Earthmonger said:
I don't have the stamina to read through the 400 posts in this thread, so I am not sure this has been answered:
- Does this $10 veterans offer cover a full year of membership (12 months), or only until the end of 2010?
- How is the revenue divided amongst staff and content providers?
- Is The Escapist going broke?
- Does Mr Pitts need spinners for his Hummer?
- Is this recurred billing or manual payment?
- Will premium content make my PC feel less depressed and old?
- Is Susan single?
- Can we vote Unskippable off the island?
- Will we be able to buffer an entire HD video without automatic throttling?
- Can we get I Hit It With My Axe without all the pointless sexual innuendo?
- What's with all the sex references on The Escapist lately? They are in abnormal abundance.
- Is Norway going to be excluded from contests?
- Will I be allowed to perform the 'thorough cough' whenever I want?
- Finally, as subscribers, will we be allowed more frequent direct communication with Jon Etheridge? Is Jon single?
- 365 days
- It's not. It goes into the company, which then pays everyone (staff and content providers)
- Nope
- Who doesn't?
- Recurring by default. You can cancel any time, including immediately.
- Maybe.
- No.
- No.
- Yes.
- No.
- We're being brainwashed by spam.
- Contest rules are unaffected by this.
- Only in the privacy of your own home.
- Both of those are up to Jon
 

Onyx Oblivion

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Choosing a title is hard...

I've went through the following:

JRPG and WRPG Lover
Chrono Crosser
Jolly Fat Gamer
Ace Attorney
Power Ranger
 

Shamanic Rhythm

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You know, 10 dollars a year is not an unreasonable price. However, my cynical nature did not fail to notice that at the exact same time as this, ZP videos are suddenly viewed with a huge and very distracting ad for Fallen Earth framed around the entire video. Not missing out on any content is one thing, but there is such a thing as being slightly too diligent in advertising at people who don't pay.
 

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Shamanic Rhythm said:
You know, 10 dollars a year is not an unreasonable price. However, my cynical nature did not fail to notice that at the exact same time as this, ZP videos are suddenly viewed with a huge and very distracting ad for Fallen Earth framed around the entire video. Not missing out on any content is one thing, but there is such a thing as being slightly too diligent in advertising at people who don't pay.
These aren't something new - we've been doing them for a few months. The timing is pure coincidence though. While it might be hard to believe, unless there's a contest or something tied into it, nobody outside the ad sales team (and maybe an artist) know anything about what ads we're running at any given time.
 

PurpleLeafRave

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Kuliani said:
SikOseph said:
Kuliani said:
Please note that no one is losing anything due to the Publisher's Club subscription service, but those that are classy enough to sign up will gain a more enjoyable experience at The Escapist!
Is this a guarantee that video quality will not be diminished for standard users? If so, then good show and good luck. If not, then BAD ESCAPIST! I strongly suspect the former is the case though, so as I said, good show and good luck.
Correct, you will still see the videos exactly as they are now if you do not subscribe. Along with their ads. All those nice, pretty, enjoyable ads. Mmmmmm. I love watching ads, even those flash ones on the forums that slow my computer down a little. Those subscribers are missing out on all the wonderful distractions! http://www.escapistmagazine.com/registration/subscribe

:)
I'm sorry, but that is the best advert for anything I have ever seen! :L
 

Chancecall

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Thanks for adding the pay-pal option. My rubbish European debit card wouldn't work through Amazon(Curse them!) and I didn't want to miss out!
 

Shamanic Rhythm

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Virgil said:
Shamanic Rhythm said:
You know, 10 dollars a year is not an unreasonable price. However, my cynical nature did not fail to notice that at the exact same time as this, ZP videos are suddenly viewed with a huge and very distracting ad for Fallen Earth framed around the entire video. Not missing out on any content is one thing, but there is such a thing as being slightly too diligent in advertising at people who don't pay.
These aren't something new - we've been doing them for a few months. The timing is pure coincidence though. While it might be hard to believe, unless there's a contest or something tied into it, nobody outside the ad sales team (and maybe an artist) know anything about what ads we're running at any given time.
Well it's the first time I've seen one, but what you say makes sense.
 

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I use ad blocker like most intelligent firefox users, that leaves me with HD - not really bothered, and exclusive forums - meh.
 

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xmetatr0nx said:
Liberaliter said:
I use ad blocker like most intelligent firefox users, that leaves me with HD - not really bothered, and exclusive forums - meh.
You do know people have been banned for admitting their use of ad blockers right?

Which makes me wonder what the difference is between blocking them and just flat out ignoring them...its the same consequence; no money for escapist.
They're not illegal and even before I used it I never paid them any attention, not once have I ever clicked an ad.
 

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Liberaliter said:
I use ad blocker like most intelligent firefox users, that leaves me with HD - not really bothered, and exclusive forums - meh.
xmetatr0nx said:
You do know people have been banned for admitting their use of ad blockers right?

Which makes me wonder what the difference is between blocking them and just flat out ignoring them...its the same consequence; no money for escapist.
1) Yes. I suggest you stop.
2) You obviously don't know how online advertising works. Here's a good summary. [http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2010/03/why-ad-blocking-is-devastating-to-the-sites-you-love.ars]
 

Liberaliter

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Virgil said:
Liberaliter said:
I use ad blocker like most intelligent firefox users, that leaves me with HD - not really bothered, and exclusive forums - meh.
xmetatr0nx said:
You do know people have been banned for admitting their use of ad blockers right?

Which makes me wonder what the difference is between blocking them and just flat out ignoring them...its the same consequence; no money for escapist.
1) Yes. I suggest you stop.
2) You obviously don't know how online advertising works. Here's a good summary. [http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2010/03/why-ad-blocking-is-devastating-to-the-sites-you-love.ars]
What if took ad blocker off the escapist but used it on other sites, happy?
 

Myan

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Liberaliter said:
Virgil said:
Liberaliter said:
I use ad blocker like most intelligent firefox users, that leaves me with HD - not really bothered, and exclusive forums - meh.
xmetatr0nx said:
You do know people have been banned for admitting their use of ad blockers right?

Which makes me wonder what the difference is between blocking them and just flat out ignoring them...its the same consequence; no money for escapist.
1) Yes. I suggest you stop.
2) You obviously don't know how online advertising works. Here's a good summary. [http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2010/03/why-ad-blocking-is-devastating-to-the-sites-you-love.ars]
What if took ad blocker off the escapist but used it on other sites, happy?
Yes, thank you! :)
 

Liberaliter

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Myan said:
Yes, thank you! :)
I read the link and I figured if I frequent a site, I should help it out. But I will keep ad block for sites I don't go on everyday. Besides, the Escapist is awesome.
 

John Funk

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xmetatr0nx said:
Liberaliter said:
I use ad blocker like most intelligent firefox users, that leaves me with HD - not really bothered, and exclusive forums - meh.
You do know people have been banned for admitting their use of ad blockers right?

Which makes me wonder what the difference is between blocking them and just flat out ignoring them...its the same consequence; no money for escapist.
People have not been banned for admitting their use of adblockers, they've been banned for telling others to use them.

As Virgil pointed out, you don't know how advertising works on a site the size of ours. Clicking on links does nothing.
 

John Funk

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Un-amused Joker said:
John Funk said:
xmetatr0nx said:
Liberaliter said:
I use ad blocker like most intelligent firefox users, that leaves me with HD - not really bothered, and exclusive forums - meh.
You do know people have been banned for admitting their use of ad blockers right?

Which makes me wonder what the difference is between blocking them and just flat out ignoring them...its the same consequence; no money for escapist.
People have not been banned for admitting their use of adblockers, they've been banned for telling others to use them.

As Virgil pointed out, you don't know how advertising works on a site the size of ours. Clicking on links does nothing.
What do people get for practicing connection encryption? Does this also hurt the Escapist's revenue stream?
I have no idea; I don't know what connection encryption is.

If you're viewing the ads, you're giving us ad impressions, and you're doing just fine.

If you're NOT viewing the ads, you're hurting us. Not trying to guilt trip anyone or say they're bad people for using adblocker, just laying the facts straight out. If you use a program that blocks ads and consume our content, you are using resources but not offering anything in the way of compensation.