Question for any furries still around.

[Armadox]

While there are still many furry artists that draw what you'd imagine as "normal" art for the type, the reason you're seeing so much vore and stuff is because the internet is forever and the cumulative over saturation of those markets means to make any money in them, you have to be a big name. Not so when you start getting down into the niche fetishes where there isn't as much art and thus getting known and getting paid is far easier. That being said, it's really only a handful of people propping up that market as they have specific characters they get drawn. It's also why you're seeing more of it now, the archive dumps simply have more people buying it, so it's getting drawn more right now flooding the pipes.

You can almost delve back into what was being made to see what was niche and paying at any time.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

I'm gonna regret asking, but I feel I have to. What is vore?

 

[Agema]

I'm gonna regret asking, but I feel I have to. What is vore?

People being eaten by giants. Or, sometimes, inserted/swallowed into... other orifices.

Weird stuff.

 

[Kwak]

I'm gonna regret asking, but I feel I have to. What is vore?

Thank urban dictionary.
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Short for "voraphilia" or "vorarephilia": a fetish in which one fantasizes about being eaten alive or eating another creature alive (sometimes known as phagophilia). The most common type of vore is "soft vore", being swallowed or swallowing whole with no bloodshed. There is also the less common "hard vore" which involves the tearing and chewing of flesh. Other types of vore include macrophilia and microphilia, in which one character involved in the vore is larger or smaller than normal.

 

[Chessrook44]

I'm gonna regret asking, but I feel I have to. What is vore?

Thank urban dictionary.
....
Short for "voraphilia" or "vorarephilia": a fetish in which one fantasizes about being eaten alive or eating another creature alive (sometimes known as phagophilia). The most common type of vore is "soft vore", being swallowed or swallowing whole with no bloodshed. There is also the less common "hard vore" which involves the tearing and chewing of flesh. Other types of vore include macrophilia and microphilia, in which one character involved in the vore is larger or smaller than normal.

That last part isn't a type of vore, macrophilia and microphilia are completely separate fetishes involving an enjoyment of those much larger/smaller than you. And has plenty of its OWN types of connections to other fetishes. If you want other types of vore you'd want things like c*** vore or a*** vore, which is the same as normal vore but through those other orifices.

The internet is WEIRD.

As for why you found so much vore on an image sharing site (Random guess here, was it e621?) well... possible a person was uploading a bunch at that time. It's not that it's "So much" vore, so much as that's probably the thing that's often referenced when people talk about "Dude look at all this weird shit". Kinda like how Pregnancy got linked to the Sonic Fandom (And bad sonic self-insert fanfiction). Or how Tentacles got linked to Anime. There's always something.

And yes, I AM a furry. No, vore ain't my thing (Though I know a few who are into it, or similar things).

 

[Worgen]

I'm gonna regret asking, but I feel I have to. What is vore?

Thank urban dictionary.
....
Short for "voraphilia" or "vorarephilia": a fetish in which one fantasizes about being eaten alive or eating another creature alive (sometimes known as phagophilia). The most common type of vore is "soft vore", being swallowed or swallowing whole with no bloodshed. There is also the less common "hard vore" which involves the tearing and chewing of flesh. Other types of vore include macrophilia and microphilia, in which one character involved in the vore is larger or smaller than normal.

That last part isn't a type of vore, macrophilia and microphilia are completely separate fetishes involving an enjoyment of those much larger/smaller than you. And has plenty of its OWN types of connections to other fetishes. If you want other types of vore you'd want things like c*** vore or a*** vore, which is the same as normal vore but through those other orifices.

The internet is WEIRD.

As for why you found so much vore on an image sharing site (Random guess here, was it e621?) well... possible a person was uploading a bunch at that time. It's not that it's "So much" vore, so much as that's probably the thing that's often referenced when people talk about "Dude look at all this weird shit". Kinda like how Pregnancy got linked to the Sonic Fandom (And bad sonic self-insert fanfiction). Or how Tentacles got linked to Anime. There's always something.

And yes, I AM a furry. No, vore ain't my thing (Though I know a few who are into it, or similar things).

Yeah it was e621. I knew vore was a thing but holy shit, so much of it with the comic tag, that might be because they seem to mostly be groups of pics together which would fit under the comic tag so that was probably impacting things a lot. Still though, way way too much of it, felt like 40% of the pics with the comic tag were in some way vore related.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

I'm gonna regret asking, but I feel I have to. What is vore?

Thank urban dictionary.
....
Short for "voraphilia" or "vorarephilia": a fetish in which one fantasizes about being eaten alive or eating another creature alive (sometimes known as phagophilia). The most common type of vore is "soft vore", being swallowed or swallowing whole with no bloodshed. There is also the less common "hard vore" which involves the tearing and chewing of flesh. Other types of vore include macrophilia and microphilia, in which one character involved in the vore is larger or smaller than normal.

OK, that's pretty fuckin' sick.

 

[Specter Von Baren]

If I were to guess, it could have to do with vore, or rather, eating, being seen as a more "wild" act that is "closer to nature" and so it shows up more in furry porn because, by nature of it being related to animals, they are a few steps closer to each other.

Keep in mind, based on what I've seen on DA, most vore that involves a human eating a human has it so it's some sort of giant eating a human. So I think that the natural reaction our species has to eating one of its own is still kicking in a lot of these people and so straight up cutting up and eating someone piece meal is still an incredibly rare fetish, with the majority of these cases being abstractions of reality.

Now explain to me the diaper fetish. Like I can see the train of logic a person could go through with vore, of it being "primal" or whatever, but I still don't see how sitting in your own excrement is supposed to turn you on.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

I'm gonna regret asking, but I feel I have to. What is vore?

Thank urban dictionary.
....
Short for "voraphilia" or "vorarephilia": a fetish in which one fantasizes about being eaten alive or eating another creature alive (sometimes known as phagophilia). The most common type of vore is "soft vore", being swallowed or swallowing whole with no bloodshed. There is also the less common "hard vore" which involves the tearing and chewing of flesh. Other types of vore include macrophilia and microphilia, in which one character involved in the vore is larger or smaller than normal.

OK, that's pretty fuckin' sick.

Apparently its a really big thing. And this is kinda what I asked about earlier - where's the sexuality? Like doesn't a sexual fetish usually involve you know, sex?
Same thing with cuckold stuff. How can it be a sexual fetish when the fetish is the distinct lack of sex?
Same thing with vore, I don't see the sex part. I can get behind its a pain fetish, or a suicide fetish, that's fucked up but I understand it.

 

[Eacaraxe_v1legacy]

It's the beauty on the inside that counts.

Spoiler

Pun aside, you're not gonna have a lot of luck asking for explanations for any sort of fetish, really, you'd have better luck asking in a website that actually displays that stuff.

Especially with fava beans and a nice chianti.

 

[Agema]

Like doesn't a sexual fetish usually involve you know, sex?

Well, I think one of the things about fetishes is that they can be very strange and don't necessarily obvious relate to sexual intercourse itself.

I'm going to digress heavily about someone my wife did therapy on, a teen who was scared of needles. To cut the story short, turns out his father was seriously ill, and he associated medical treatment with the fear of his father dying. You can see there's a link there, but neither is it obvious you should be scared of getting a tetanus jab because your dad might die.

So our psychology can form these strange links. And these links can possibly grow.

Imagine at some point back in alernative, pre-internet history porn mags had adverts, but only for gloves. I would be willing to bet you hand / glove fetishes would be massive: because every time porn afficianados indulged in sex, they'd have been seeing gloves. Once the association is created then it also creates a market for it so porn will continue making glove-orientated themes, which other people will pick up and it's self-sustaining.

It could then develop with a life of its own - novelties involving hand/glove fetish as people explore and expand on it, and there are always some people who follow the links, which also get a life of their own. It's not hard to imagine it ending in some weird stuff that some people associate with sex that make absolutely sod all sense to the vast majority of us. But somewhere there will be a whole pathway of associations, some cultural created over time so potentially even the fetishists don't even really understand it, linking back to sex.

So for vore, you could imagine it started with someone having a revelatory sexual experience where their partner bit them (possibly hard). And thus we have the origin of a sex and biting interest. Let it develop and expand, next thing you know someone's fantasising about being eaten.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

Like doesn't a sexual fetish usually involve you know, sex?

Well, I think one of the things about fetishes is that they can be very strange and don't necessarily obvious relate to sexual intercourse itself.

I'm going to digress heavily about someone my wife did therapy on, a teen who was scared of needles. To cut the story short, turns out his father was seriously ill, and he associated medical treatment with the fear of his father dying. You can see there's a link there, but neither is it obvious you should be scared of getting a tetanus jab because your dad might die.

So our psychology can form these strange links. And these links can possibly grow.

Imagine at some point back in alernative, pre-internet history porn mags had adverts, but only for gloves. I would be willing to bet you hand / glove fetishes would be massive: because every time porn afficianados indulged in sex, they'd have been seeing gloves. Once the association is created then it also creates a market for it so porn will continue making glove-orientated themes, which other people will pick up and it's self-sustaining.

It could then develop with a life of its own - novelties involving hand/glove fetish as people explore and expand on it, and there are always some people who follow the links, which also get a life of their own. It's not hard to imagine it ending in some weird stuff that some people associate with sex that make absolutely sod all sense to the vast majority of us. But somewhere there will be a whole pathway of associations, some cultural created over time so potentially even the fetishists don't even really understand it, linking back to sex.

So for vore, you could imagine it started with someone having a revelatory sexual experience where their partner bit them (possibly hard). And thus we have the origin of a sex and biting interest. Let it develop and expand, next thing you know someone's fantasising about being eaten.

That does make sense, but at what point during this fetish gestation process is the sex part dropped? Like sure someone's partner bit them during sex and they kinda liked it, so it grew to more biting, harder bites, and the like, but still in the act of sex. If someone gets off to the idea of being bitten, that's all well and good, but the 'gets off' point should be the, well, point.

Same with any other fetish, surely. The point is that its sexually arousing and helps them orgasm. It feels like with a lot of these fetishes they've forgotten the most important part - the sex/orgasm.

 

[Chessrook44]

The thing about fetishes is that you're right, they don't necessarily involve sex or an orgasm... but their mere existence is enough to arouse someone. Take feet. To my knowledge, Foot Fetishes are THE most common fetish in the world. And yet, feet are NOT inherintly sexual. Aside from a foot job, what are you going to do with feet?

I actually asked someone who was into vore why they were into it and what they liked about it. I believe they said that they liked the idea of being surrounded, perhaps protected, by the one they were inside. Warmth, the sounds of the body, and so on. They were more into Endosomatophilia I believe (which I think is the fetish for being inside someone), which vore connects to in an obvious way, but one can argue that fetishes can eventually have a link found, for why someone likes them. Even if it's NOT in a way that would directly cause them to orgasm.

Hell, look at people into BDSM, or Domination. These are things that to my knowledge don't involve direct sex or orgasms, and in some cases may involve the opposite: Orgasm Denial, or Pain instead of Pleasure. And yet, people ARE INTO THIS. It's weird, minds are weird, and yet... there it is.


Going back to the Vore thing, the mention someone made earlier about it being animal-connected does make sense. Many vore fans tend to state whether they fall in the Pred or Prey catagory (Kinda like Dom/Sub or Top/Bottom). And when you think Predators and Prey, you think animal kingdom. Cats eat mice, Wolves eat deer, foxes eat rabbits, and so forth. So it makes sense that people would draw such kinds of things now and then. Or the reverse, just for the sake of "Novelty". (A mouse eating a cat? REVENGE!! MWAHAHA!!!)

Like I said though, fetishes, and people, are just weird.

 

[CrazyGirl17]

Like I said though, fetishes, and people, are just weird.

Pretty much, yeah. I have my own weird tastes... but I feel uncomfortable when I see people talking about them because I fell... well... uncomfortable about liking that sort of thing. And it's not just being a furry either.

 

[Asita]

And this is kinda what I asked about earlier - where's the sexuality? Like doesn't a sexual fetish usually involve you know, sex?
Same thing with cuckold stuff. How can it be a sexual fetish when the fetish is the distinct lack of sex?
Same thing with vore, I don't see the sex part. I can get behind its a pain fetish, or a suicide fetish, that's fucked up but I understand it.

Vore I can't help you with, but the cuckold stuff is actually relatively easy to explain as it intersects with a few other fetishes and popular fanfiction concepts. In the subject of fetishes, the "cuckold" themselves hits the erotic humiliation crowd. Meanwhile the partner cheating on them hits...shall we say "hardcore seduction"? It's similar in principle to erotic stories heavily featuring [heavily romanticized] non-consent; in reality non-consent is unacceptably horrible, but behind the safe wall of fiction it can be used to indicate heightened pleasure. In simplest terms (and again with the important caveat that this only applies to fiction), if a character wanted it and enjoyed it then the pleasure might have been good, but if they didn't want it, got it anyway and ended up wanting more, then it communicates to us as readers that it must have been really good. So too is it with this subgenre, it's communicating that while the party being seduced may love their partner, they're fighting a draw that is so strong as to override if not outright replace that affection.

And then of course on the fanfiction concepts there's also the simple application of what TVTropes terms "Ron the Deatheater". Some people just really don't like the cuckold's paramour for whatever reason and seeing the characters separated is icing on the cake for the porn.

 

[Worgen]

If I were to guess, it could have to do with vore, or rather, eating, being seen as a more "wild" act that is "closer to nature" and so it shows up more in furry porn because, by nature of it being related to animals, they are a few steps closer to each other.

Keep in mind, based on what I've seen on DA, most vore that involves a human eating a human has it so it's some sort of giant eating a human. So I think that the natural reaction our species has to eating one of its own is still kicking in a lot of these people and so straight up cutting up and eating someone piece meal is still an incredibly rare fetish, with the majority of these cases being abstractions of reality.

Now explain to me the diaper fetish. Like I can see the train of logic a person could go through with vore, of it being "primal" or whatever, but I still don't see how sitting in your own excrement is supposed to turn you on.

I'm not sure its so much about the eating. Most of it that I've stumbled upon is just someone being swallowed whole. I've never seen a gory bite by bite thing. I mean what happens after being swallowed whole seems to vary, I see all of it as snuff and hate it.

Someone else mentioned they talked with someone who said it was partially about being surrounded by someone else, that seems more likely on one end, I guess the other end is just feeling full or something... or the thrill of the kill.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

And this is kinda what I asked about earlier - where's the sexuality? Like doesn't a sexual fetish usually involve you know, sex?
Same thing with cuckold stuff. How can it be a sexual fetish when the fetish is the distinct lack of sex?
Same thing with vore, I don't see the sex part. I can get behind its a pain fetish, or a suicide fetish, that's fucked up but I understand it.

Vore I can't help you with, but the cuckold stuff is actually relatively easy to explain as it intersects with a few other fetishes and popular fanfiction concepts. In the subject of fetishes, the "cuckold" themselves hits the erotic humiliation crowd. Meanwhile the partner cheating on them hits...shall we say "hardcore seduction"? It's similar in principle to erotic stories heavily featuring [heavily romanticized] non-consent; in reality non-consent is unacceptably horrible, but behind the safe wall of fiction it can be used to indicate heightened pleasure. In simplest terms (and again with the important caveat that this only applies to fiction), if a character wanted it and enjoyed it then the pleasure might have been good, but if they didn't want it, got it anyway and ended up wanting more, then it communicates to us as readers that it must have been really good. So too is it with this subgenre, it's communicating that while the party being seduced may love their partner, they're fighting a draw that is so strong as to override if not outright replace that affection.

And then of course on the fanfiction concepts there's also the simple application of what TVTropes terms "Ron the Deatheater". Some people just really don't like the cuckold's paramour for whatever reason and seeing the characters separated is icing on the cake for the porn.

But something still bothers me - the person being cuckold has to have sex or achieve orgasm at a certain point.
Like if a dude likes to pretend his wife is being raped, and the wife is into it, that's all well and fucked up, but the husband needs to still get off, yes? Like that's where the sexual part comes in, no pun intended. I cant believe some people's sexual fetish is to not have sex or achieve orgasm. That's like your favorite food being nothing.
Its okay if someone is a-sexual, but we describe that as a lack of sexual drive, not a fetish drive in its own right.
So in a cuckold role play, they have to break the character at least once for the husband to do something, otherwise I don't see how it can be classified as a sexual fetish.
It can be a humiliation/pain/abuse/whatever fetish, that makes sense. But I still maintain sex needs to be involved with all parties at least once during the encounter.

 

[Worgen]

And this is kinda what I asked about earlier - where's the sexuality? Like doesn't a sexual fetish usually involve you know, sex?
Same thing with cuckold stuff. How can it be a sexual fetish when the fetish is the distinct lack of sex?
Same thing with vore, I don't see the sex part. I can get behind its a pain fetish, or a suicide fetish, that's fucked up but I understand it.

Vore I can't help you with, but the cuckold stuff is actually relatively easy to explain as it intersects with a few other fetishes and popular fanfiction concepts. In the subject of fetishes, the "cuckold" themselves hits the erotic humiliation crowd. Meanwhile the partner cheating on them hits...shall we say "hardcore seduction"? It's similar in principle to erotic stories heavily featuring [heavily romanticized] non-consent; in reality non-consent is unacceptably horrible, but behind the safe wall of fiction it can be used to indicate heightened pleasure. In simplest terms (and again with the important caveat that this only applies to fiction), if a character wanted it and enjoyed it then the pleasure might have been good, but if they didn't want it, got it anyway and ended up wanting more, then it communicates to us as readers that it must have been really good. So too is it with this subgenre, it's communicating that while the party being seduced may love their partner, they're fighting a draw that is so strong as to override if not outright replace that affection.

And then of course on the fanfiction concepts there's also the simple application of what TVTropes terms "Ron the Deatheater". Some people just really don't like the cuckold's paramour for whatever reason and seeing the characters separated is icing on the cake for the porn.

But something still bothers me - the person being cuckold has to have sex or achieve orgasm at a certain point.
Like if a dude likes to pretend his wife is being raped, and the wife is into it, that's all well and fucked up, but the husband needs to still get off, yes? Like that's where the sexual part comes in, no pun intended. I cant believe some people's sexual fetish is to not have sex or achieve orgasm. That's like your favorite food being nothing.
Its okay if someone is a-sexual, but we describe that as a lack of sexual drive, not a fetish drive in its own right.
So in a cuckold role play, they have to break the character at least once for the husband to do something, otherwise I don't see how it can be classified as a sexual fetish.
It can be a humiliation/pain/abuse/whatever fetish, that makes sense. But I still maintain sex needs to be involved with all parties at least once during the encounter.

I don't think rape is part of the cuckolding thing, I think its really just seeing someones significant other get off with someone else. I don't really understand it myself, not against it just don't get it even though I have done it to someone else. They both enjoyed it so whatever.

There are fetishes involving rape, it actually seems to be a rather common fantasy. But again, not into it. And want no part of it, not against a bit of domination but not beyond that, I prefer a more equal power dynamic in sex.

Damn, this topic really went into some interesting places.

 

[Asita]

And this is kinda what I asked about earlier - where's the sexuality? Like doesn't a sexual fetish usually involve you know, sex?
Same thing with cuckold stuff. How can it be a sexual fetish when the fetish is the distinct lack of sex?
Same thing with vore, I don't see the sex part. I can get behind its a pain fetish, or a suicide fetish, that's fucked up but I understand it.

Vore I can't help you with, but the cuckold stuff is actually relatively easy to explain as it intersects with a few other fetishes and popular fanfiction concepts. In the subject of fetishes, the "cuckold" themselves hits the erotic humiliation crowd. Meanwhile the partner cheating on them hits...shall we say "hardcore seduction"? It's similar in principle to erotic stories heavily featuring [heavily romanticized] non-consent; in reality non-consent is unacceptably horrible, but behind the safe wall of fiction it can be used to indicate heightened pleasure. In simplest terms (and again with the important caveat that this only applies to fiction), if a character wanted it and enjoyed it then the pleasure might have been good, but if they didn't want it, got it anyway and ended up wanting more, then it communicates to us as readers that it must have been really good. So too is it with this subgenre, it's communicating that while the party being seduced may love their partner, they're fighting a draw that is so strong as to override if not outright replace that affection.

And then of course on the fanfiction concepts there's also the simple application of what TVTropes terms "Ron the Deatheater". Some people just really don't like the cuckold's paramour for whatever reason and seeing the characters separated is icing on the cake for the porn.

But something still bothers me - the person being cuckold has to have sex or achieve orgasm at a certain point.
Like if a dude likes to pretend his wife is being raped, and the wife is into it, that's all well and fucked up, but the husband needs to still get off, yes? Like that's where the sexual part comes in, no pun intended. I cant believe some people's sexual fetish is to not have sex or achieve orgasm. That's like your favorite food being nothing.
Its okay if someone is a-sexual, but we describe that as a lack of sexual drive, not a fetish drive in its own right.
So in a cuckold role play, they have to break the character at least once for the husband to do something, otherwise I don't see how it can be classified as a sexual fetish.
It can be a humiliation/pain/abuse/whatever fetish, that makes sense. But I still maintain sex needs to be involved with all parties at least once during the encounter.

Eventually, yes. But bear in mind that Orgasm Denial is sex practice in itself, and likely plays into this particular fetish to some extent.

To clarify, however, I brought up non-consent as having some similar themes, not as necessarily an aspect of fetishizing cuckolding. Point of fact, as the point of the latter is humiliation, I don't expect that rape roleplay is an especially common avenue for it. That would kinda undermine the masochistic purpose of the cuckold roleplay.

 

[Agema]

Like if a dude likes to pretend his wife is being raped, and the wife is into it, that's all well and fucked up, but the husband needs to still get off, yes? Like that's where the sexual part comes in, no pun intended. I cant believe some people's sexual fetish is to not have sex or achieve orgasm. That's like your favorite food being nothing.

I'm sure they orgasm at some point. If someone's looking at a picture, they just wank off to it. Alternatively, perhaps they take the experience, and replay it in their memory as they next either masturbate or have sex with a partner (who presumably isn't into the fetish).

In practice, this probably isn't that different from many fantasies - maybe you meet someone you really fancy at a club, don't score, but go home and "amuse yourself" imagining that you did off the memory of that person.