No kidding. This topic has a lot of stuff I didn't need to know...Worgen said:I don't think rape is part of the cuckolding thing, I think its really just seeing someones significant other get off with someone else. I don't really understand it myself, not against it just don't get it even though I have done it to someone else. They both enjoyed it so whatever.Silentpony said:But something still bothers me - the person being cuckold has to have sex or achieve orgasm at a certain point.Asita said:Vore I can't help you with, but the cuckold stuff is actually relatively easy to explain as it intersects with a few other fetishes and popular fanfiction concepts. In the subject of fetishes, the "cuckold" themselves hits the erotic humiliation crowd. Meanwhile the partner cheating on them hits...shall we say "hardcore seduction"? It's similar in principle to erotic stories heavily featuring [heavily romanticized] non-consent; in reality non-consent is unacceptably horrible, but behind the safe wall of fiction it can be used to indicate heightened pleasure. In simplest terms (and again with the important caveat that this only applies to fiction), if a character wanted it and enjoyed it then the pleasure might have been good, but if they didn't want it, got it anyway and ended up wanting more, then it communicates to us as readers that it must have been really good. So too is it with this subgenre, it's communicating that while the party being seduced may love their partner, they're fighting a draw that is so strong as to override if not outright replace that affection.Silentpony said:And this is kinda what I asked about earlier - where's the sexuality? Like doesn't a sexual fetish usually involve you know, sex?
Same thing with cuckold stuff. How can it be a sexual fetish when the fetish is the distinct lack of sex?
Same thing with vore, I don't see the sex part. I can get behind its a pain fetish, or a suicide fetish, that's fucked up but I understand it.
And then of course on the fanfiction concepts there's also the simple application of what TVTropes terms "Ron the Deatheater". Some people just really don't like the cuckold's paramour for whatever reason and seeing the characters separated is icing on the cake for the porn.
Like if a dude likes to pretend his wife is being raped, and the wife is into it, that's all well and fucked up, but the husband needs to still get off, yes? Like that's where the sexual part comes in, no pun intended. I cant believe some people's sexual fetish is to not have sex or achieve orgasm. That's like your favorite food being nothing.
Its okay if someone is a-sexual, but we describe that as a lack of sexual drive, not a fetish drive in its own right.
So in a cuckold role play, they have to break the character at least once for the husband to do something, otherwise I don't see how it can be classified as a sexual fetish.
It can be a humiliation/pain/abuse/whatever fetish, that makes sense. But I still maintain sex needs to be involved with all parties at least once during the encounter.
There are fetishes involving rape, it actually seems to be a rather common fantasy. But again, not into it. And want no part of it, not against a bit of domination but not beyond that, I prefer a more equal power dynamic in sex.
Damn, this topic really went into some interesting places.
Personally, I like anthropomorphic animals and other such weird stuff more for the aesthetics than the sexual pleasure.
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