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QuickDEMOL1SHER

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I was thinking about taking a crack at Insanity in ME2 and I wanted to know if I could still get the achievement if I imported a character from ME2 or ME1.
 

Amnestic

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Yes. You set the difficulty at the start when you import to 'Insanity' and then keep it there.
 

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If you import a lvl 60 from ME1, then you automaticly start at lvl 5 with lots of money and resources.
 

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QuickDEMOL1SHER said:
Amnestic said:
Yes. You set the difficulty at the start when you import to 'Insanity' and then keep it there.
Even if I am restarting a ME2 character?
Yes. However, using an imported ME2 level 30 character will make the game harder than starting from scratch. All the enemies will be leveled to max and you won't have any of the upgrades early on that the game assumes are appropriate for lvl 30. Also, importing a ME2 character doesn't give you the Paragon/Renegade bonus that importing a ME1 character gives.

And finally, if you're importing a ME2 character you can't change your class if you intended to do that. Overall, you're better off starting a new char for Insanity or importing a ME1 char.
 

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Import your ME1 IMO.

Especially for Insanity.

Mind you Insanity is only moderately hard so don't fret over it.
 

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All the achievement requires is to beat it on Insanity. The character dosen't make a diffrence.

I was thinking of doing it at one point, but it'll have to wait since I wanna beat Bioshock 2 on hard first.
 

ElArabDeMagnifico

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Jandau said:
QuickDEMOL1SHER said:
Amnestic said:
Yes. You set the difficulty at the start when you import to 'Insanity' and then keep it there.
Even if I am restarting a ME2 character?
Yes. However, using an imported ME2 level 30 character will make the game harder than starting from scratch. All the enemies will be leveled to max and you won't have any of the upgrades early on that the game assumes are appropriate for lvl 30. Also, importing a ME2 character doesn't give you the Paragon/Renegade bonus that importing a ME1 character gives.

And finally, if you're importing a ME2 character you can't change your class if you intended to do that. Overall, you're better off starting a new char for Insanity or importing a ME1 char.
I had no idea the game level scaled, is it really that big of a difference?

Also, it seems like the main difference is the paragon renegade bonus, but if you have a level 30 character with their class skill fully evolved then the rate at which you get paragon and renegade points wouldn't be such a handicap would it?
 

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ElArabDeMagnifico said:
I had no idea the game level scaled, is it really that big of a difference?

Also, it seems like the main difference is the paragon renegade bonus, but if you have a level 30 character with their class skill fully evolved then the rate at which you get paragon and renegade points wouldn't be such a handicap would it?
Paragon/Renegade isn't such a big deal. The achievement merely requires you to beat the game, not beat it well.

The bigger problem is the upgrades. When you import a level 30 character, all the enemies are at a level appropriate for that; except you don't have any upgrades like you should at said level.
 

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An ME2 char import Insanity playthrough is easy enough if you're Soldier and chose Revenant. That gun makes even Insanity easy mode.
 

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ElArabDeMagnifico said:
Jandau said:
QuickDEMOL1SHER said:
Amnestic said:
Yes. You set the difficulty at the start when you import to 'Insanity' and then keep it there.
Even if I am restarting a ME2 character?
Yes. However, using an imported ME2 level 30 character will make the game harder than starting from scratch. All the enemies will be leveled to max and you won't have any of the upgrades early on that the game assumes are appropriate for lvl 30. Also, importing a ME2 character doesn't give you the Paragon/Renegade bonus that importing a ME1 character gives.

And finally, if you're importing a ME2 character you can't change your class if you intended to do that. Overall, you're better off starting a new char for Insanity or importing a ME1 char.
I had no idea the game level scaled, is it really that big of a difference?

Also, it seems like the main difference is the paragon renegade bonus, but if you have a level 30 character with their class skill fully evolved then the rate at which you get paragon and renegade points wouldn't be such a handicap would it?
Is it a big difference? Let's put it this way, with maxed upgrades you'll be doing +50% damage with all your weapons and abilites, take 50% less damage, have 50% more health and a whole bunch of other bonuses like shorter cooldowns, more ammo, more medi-gel, etc.

It's not impossible, but it's noticably harder than starting a new character.

As for the Paragon/Renegade thing, your class skill doesn't really factor in it much, since a low-level character would eventually get the same skill and therefore the same multiplier and I've heard people complain that they miss several dialogue options early in the game before they can catch up in points. It's not a major concern, but it does force you on the straigh and narrow early on, or else you risk spreading your points too thin.
 

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ElArabDeMagnifico said:
Jandau said:
QuickDEMOL1SHER said:
Amnestic said:
Yes. You set the difficulty at the start when you import to 'Insanity' and then keep it there.
Even if I am restarting a ME2 character?
Yes. However, using an imported ME2 level 30 character will make the game harder than starting from scratch. All the enemies will be leveled to max and you won't have any of the upgrades early on that the game assumes are appropriate for lvl 30. Also, importing a ME2 character doesn't give you the Paragon/Renegade bonus that importing a ME1 character gives.

And finally, if you're importing a ME2 character you can't change your class if you intended to do that. Overall, you're better off starting a new char for Insanity or importing a ME1 char.
I had no idea the game level scaled, is it really that big of a difference?

Also, it seems like the main difference is the paragon renegade bonus, but if you have a level 30 character with their class skill fully evolved then the rate at which you get paragon and renegade points wouldn't be such a handicap would it?
Best way to tell is to play Insanity as a fresh character through to the end of Freedom's Progress and then compare with an imported level 30 of the same class. "Big difference" is a subjective term. I will say that it makes the start a lot more difficult. Not only are you without upgrades (no +50% weapon damage! ;<) but you're also using basic weapons at level 30. Compare the Mantis to the Widow, or the starting assault rifle to the Revenant and you can really see the difference.

Whether it makes it drastically harder or not is both subjective and dependant on your class choice.

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Jandau said:
Suppose it was your turn to ninja me *shakes fist* :p
 

ElArabDeMagnifico

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Amnestic said:
Jandau said:

Yeah I should have known, and heck if you have Zaeed you can have either more heavy weapon ammo and/or more assault rifle damage too - the upgrades can go to 6/6 because of those 2 "extras".

I guess I never noticed the level scaling because I was always upgrading.

While I'm here:

If you import a Mass Effect 2 character, and lets say you gave them sniper rifles as a bonus specialization on the first playthrough, when they get to the point where they can pick the specialization again, will you be able to get The Widow?
 

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ElArabDeMagnifico said:
If you import a Mass Effect 2 character, and lets say you gave them sniper rifles as a bonus specialization on the first playthrough, when they get to the point where they can pick the specialization again, will you be able to get The Widow?
Sadly not. You only get to pick one bonus on the Collector Ship and that sticks with you for every NG+ from that career.

[sub]Of course, PC players have a number of ways of getting around that...[/sub]
 

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Amnestic said:
ElArabDeMagnifico said:
If you import a Mass Effect 2 character, and lets say you gave them sniper rifles as a bonus specialization on the first playthrough, when they get to the point where they can pick the specialization again, will you be able to get The Widow?
Sadly not. You only get to pick one bonus on the Collector Ship and that sticks with you for every NG+ from that career.

[sub]Of course, PC players have a number of ways of getting around that...[/sub]
Looks like I've got a file to edit! (after I back it up)

Thanks.
 

Jandau

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ElArabDeMagnifico said:
Amnestic said:
ElArabDeMagnifico said:
If you import a Mass Effect 2 character, and lets say you gave them sniper rifles as a bonus specialization on the first playthrough, when they get to the point where they can pick the specialization again, will you be able to get The Widow?
Sadly not. You only get to pick one bonus on the Collector Ship and that sticks with you for every NG+ from that career.

[sub]Of course, PC players have a number of ways of getting around that...[/sub]
Looks like I've got a file to edit! (after I back it up)

Thanks.
Not to be a goody-two-shoes, but editing files to give yourself weapons you're not supposed to have is about equal to editing files to give yourself 9999 Health and Shields...
 

Amnestic

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Jandau said:
ElArabDeMagnifico said:
Amnestic said:
ElArabDeMagnifico said:
If you import a Mass Effect 2 character, and lets say you gave them sniper rifles as a bonus specialization on the first playthrough, when they get to the point where they can pick the specialization again, will you be able to get The Widow?
Sadly not. You only get to pick one bonus on the Collector Ship and that sticks with you for every NG+ from that career.

[sub]Of course, PC players have a number of ways of getting around that...[/sub]
Looks like I've got a file to edit! (after I back it up)

Thanks.
Not to be a goody-two-shoes, but editing files to give yourself weapons you're not supposed to have is about equal to editing files to give yourself 9999 Health and Shields...
I gave Tali a Widow.

And it's awesome
 

Jandau

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Amnestic said:
Jandau said:
ElArabDeMagnifico said:
Amnestic said:
ElArabDeMagnifico said:
If you import a Mass Effect 2 character, and lets say you gave them sniper rifles as a bonus specialization on the first playthrough, when they get to the point where they can pick the specialization again, will you be able to get The Widow?
Sadly not. You only get to pick one bonus on the Collector Ship and that sticks with you for every NG+ from that career.

[sub]Of course, PC players have a number of ways of getting around that...[/sub]
Looks like I've got a file to edit! (after I back it up)

Thanks.
Not to be a goody-two-shoes, but editing files to give yourself weapons you're not supposed to have is about equal to editing files to give yourself 9999 Health and Shields...
I gave Tali a Widow.

And it's awesome
OK, that I can support. Tali deserves awesome and she's one of the less useful party members. But at least have the decency to remove her Shotgun then, to at least pretend to keep the game balanced ;)
 

Amnestic

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Jandau said:
Amnestic said:
Jandau said:
ElArabDeMagnifico said:
Amnestic said:
ElArabDeMagnifico said:
If you import a Mass Effect 2 character, and lets say you gave them sniper rifles as a bonus specialization on the first playthrough, when they get to the point where they can pick the specialization again, will you be able to get The Widow?
Sadly not. You only get to pick one bonus on the Collector Ship and that sticks with you for every NG+ from that career.

[sub]Of course, PC players have a number of ways of getting around that...[/sub]
Looks like I've got a file to edit! (after I back it up)

Thanks.
Not to be a goody-two-shoes, but editing files to give yourself weapons you're not supposed to have is about equal to editing files to give yourself 9999 Health and Shields...
I gave Tali a Widow.

And it's awesome
OK, that I can support. Tali deserves awesome and she's one of the less useful party members. But at least have the decency to remove her Shotgun then, to at least pretend to keep the game balanced ;)
I did.

I removed her handcannon and gave her the Assault Rifle too.

She's basically just Legion with a different Loyalty skill now. No way am I letting my Quarian booty-call walk into danger while not packing serious heat.