Quit It

[brazuca]

And let's not forget that James Cameron published his film by 20th Century Fox, whose owner is none less than Ruppert Murdoc an open Republican.

Hidig your orientation bob is an old tatic. It's made in a way that after you identify with your caracther you will search for an equivalent in the real world. Make no mistake no other industry carries more ideology than the movie one. As for Hollywood being democrat... Well actors and screen writers may be democrats, but producers and studio owners are republican to the bone.

 

[Wolfenbarg]

This was a decent article, but I don't think you really provided enough examples for me to really say, "Yeah, that happens way too much!" In fact, it seems like most of the things you pointed out are rather dated in their presentation to the audience, I can't think of a great deal of them that constantly pop up in the media.

 

[Silkavenger]

Second this motion. I mean when people were teenagers didn't we all look for all sorts of ways not to be normal? We wanted to be special, unique, awesome or at least cool. When did conformity to normality become cool? Answer: it did when we needed to find a job. And let me tell ya those corporations seem to frown on individual expression. I still think Beast Boy said it best, "Normal is highly overrated."

Hold on a sec, are you sure about that?

High school kids spend almost every waking moment try to copy those around them and live up to the expectations of others in order to gain acceptance. They copy how those around them dress, how they talk, the type of music they like, what lunch table they sit at: all copied in a perpetual dance of effort ti fit in. Even social "misfits" are merely copying other misfits around them, or those sold to them on tv. They seek approval from theier group the same way a Preppy golf player would from his.

Being cool or truly unique has nothing to do with it. Being afraid of being different and alone and cloning others successfully enough that you aren't the target of total ridicule is what highschool culture revolves around.

 

[TiefBlau]

A lot of this seems more spiteful than reasonable.

No, this does not mean I'm supposed to forever condemn MovieBob as an opinionated jerk incapable of saying anything logical. Piss off, hypothetical extrapolators.

You're particularly spiteful about comic book movies being "ashamed" of their roots, and while some of it rings true (Star Trek and Transformers much?), saying that this joke is a "fuck you" to anyone who likes X-Men is going a bit far. It's just a harmless joke that most people who know anything about X-Men would understand. But then again, most comic book fans are probably oversensitive enough about mainstream adaptations of their works, so I guess you can call this "cultural insensitivity"? I'd also like to say that sometimes, violent changes in adaptation works, and it doesn't have to be "ashamed" of its source material. It's great to have different interpretations of a work. Did C.S. Lewis read the bible, say "This shit is boring", and then write the Chronicles of Narnia to replace it and make it more culturally relevant? (Okay, maybe you could argue that, but my point still stands.) I don't consider Dark Knight to be an accurate depiction of Batman, but you don't expect it to be. It's something completely different. It's the Nolanverse. The Batmobile isn't sleek and sexy, the Joker looks more like a meth addict than a clown, and Batman is a chain smoker. It's not attempting to replace or represent the franchise any more than it's attempting to substitute Tim Burton's Batman.

You also have a lot of phlegm for a lot of people who disagree with your world view. Granted, it's often phlegm in response to phlegm, as in the whole "God's Domain" nonsense and your comment about hippies, but the whole midlife crisis thing seems awfully vitriolic. You're against people having depression when they're rich and irresponsible, because it's clearly made by people who hate rich people, and you're against people overcoming depression when they're middle class and settled down because it's clearly made by people who think they made the wrong choice in doing so themselves. So when are we allowed to be depressed and overcome it? When we're artsy? When we're nerds? I consider myself more closely related to the latter two demographics, but this "cliche" complaint of yours sounds like a personal issue and nothing else.

 

[PrinceofPersia]

Second this motion. I mean when people were teenagers didn't we all look for all sorts of ways not to be normal? We wanted to be special, unique, awesome or at least cool. When did conformity to normality become cool? Answer: it did when we needed to find a job. And let me tell ya those corporations seem to frown on individual expression. I still think Beast Boy said it best, "Normal is highly overrated."

Hold on a sec, are you sure about that?

High school kids spend almost every waking moment try to copy those around them and live up to the expectations of others in order to gain acceptance. They copy how those around them dress, how they talk, the type of music they like, what lunch table they sit at: all copied in a perpetual dance of effort ti fit in. Even social "misfits" are merely copying other misfits around them, or those sold to them on tv. They seek approval from theier group the same way a Preppy golf player would from his.

Being cool or truly unique has nothing to do with it. Being afraid of being different and alone and cloning others successfully enough that you aren't the target of total ridicule is what high school culture revolves around.

I always thought that the culture of HS seemed to revolve around the freaking jocks and cheerleaders, which would explain all those school spirit rallies I had to attend back then. Also my high school experience was a LOOOONG time ago, so from my point of view, yeah thats what being in my high school was like: you got popular by being good looking, talented at sports, dressing in the latest fashion or something not related to being smart, witty, or talented in a non-sport activity. I suppose in the end that is all subjective to the experiences you go threw in the meat grinder of American life.

 

[Mister Linton]

Sure Bob, being single at your age is MUCH better than being married and having a family (and it was a conscious choice of yours no doubt). Just keep tellin' yourself that.

 

[caladors]

Sure Bob, being single at your age is MUCH better than being married and having a family (and it was a conscious choice of yours no doubt). Just keep tellin' yourself that.

That is quite possibility the most deliberately hurtful comment I have ever seen on the internet.
And I have seen Atheist talking to Theists about Islamophobia....
Anyway.

He was not saying it sucks to have a family he was saying I am so over Hollywood.
Assuming that everyone has the same cookie cutter life.
Which is fair.
Your comment was designed to hurt and degrade.
What wonders anonymity brings.

 

[Nimcha]

Nice article except for opne point.

He tampered in God's Domain!!!
In real life, scientists do some of the most important and far-reaching good of any vocation on the planet Earth. They cure disease, revolutionize industry, clean the air and water, solve pressing global concerns and invent the technology by which our better-publicized do-gooders, er... do their good. It's one of the noblest and most tangibly-worthy professions one could possibly pursue.

In the movies? Not so much. Science is BAD. It unleashes monsters, provides fodder for sinister conspiracies and changes society is scaaaaary ways. And the scientists who carry it out? Awful, awful human beings, shirking their responsibility to maintain the status quo and choosing the unclean path of knowledge over the pristine, flower-strewn road of blind faith and unquestioning loyalty to tradition and "the norm."

"There are things man wasn't MEANT to know!," goes the saying... presumably, one of those things is how such an insipid sentiment has survived all the way into the 21st Century.

Now I want to preface this by saying that I'm pro-science and I aknowledge that the only way I'm able to even say this is the result of thouisands of lives dedicated to scientific research and I hate the wjole Rousseauian idea of the natural state being perfect. But that doesn't change the fact that "Technology is dangerous!" totally has real world precidence. The most important scientific development of the 20th centuary was first used to kill 250,000 people and then began a political situation where the whole world was under constant threat of annhilation that lasted for almost 45 years. You say that scientific advance allows us to save lives and that's true, but it has allowed us to take them far more effciently.

This is very much true. Explain to me Bob, why we NEED to replicate the conditions of the origin of the universe in the coming years. Whatever reassurances anyone gives, The Large Hadron Collider creating millions of miniature black holes on Earth for the purposes of studying what particles existed back then does kind of scare me. Seems there is a precedent in the 21st century for people to still be fearful of potentially dangerous scientific discoveries.

Only if you're ignorant, really. If this machine would've been made in the 70's when the media didn't have any influence on the public opinion of science, nobody would've been scared by this completely beningn piece of machinery.

 

[theevilsanta]

At first when he was talking about how a middle class person learns that their life is pretty good after all I thought it as going to be a commentary on how the working class (lower) life really wasn't that bad. I was wrong. Bob is such a middle class reaching for upper-middle class that getting any important viewpoints out of him on the subject is impossible. He's so mired in the "intellgencia" group think of the middle class that real, true thought and opinion is impossible.