Racist against....whites?

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Pretty much all groups in the past felt that they were the best and everyone else was beneath them. The Japanese and the Chinese (the ones IN japan and china, I mean. The ones who are raised outside the country don't seem so prone to it) seem to hate and despise each other, but no one calls them out on it. The idea that only white people are racist or that white people invented racism is stupid. Look at the Black Panther party, I mean they are probably worse than the KKK as far as motives go. Look at what they are preaching http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1vbwc_blackhitler_politics.

In any case, the only reason that people are taught to hate a specific group of people is for political gain. Hitler did it so he could take over Germany (and eventually the world, supposedly), the KKK did it to ensure that their communities remained conservative (although seeing brown people as inferior being probably had something to do with it), Mao Ze Tong did to Capitalists so he wouldn't be contested (gotta mix in some non-whites somewhere).

As humans, we automatically try and find patterns so we can understand the world around us, ie fire is hot, that thing tastes good, etc etc. When europeans found a group of people that are technologically and sociologically millennia behind them without any anomalies, do you think that it's any surprise that they thought of them as a lesser people? It may not be ethical, but it's just how we humans think. All we can hope to do is try and not apply that thought process to people and start thinking that skin color correlates to behavior.

 

[clicketycrack]

because white people weren't subjected to a couple hundred years of slavery under black people.

I think that this argument became void when the last person to ever legally own a slave breathed their last breath. I didn't own a slave, my dad didn't own a slave, and my grandpa didn't own a slave. In fact, I doubt anybody in my family tree has ever owned a slave seeing as we don't exactly come from the wealthiest line. I'll just say what everybody says to the dumbass redneck who whines about how the south should have won:"It was over a hundred fucking years ago"

 

[Bigeyez]

There is never an excuse for racism no matter what color your skin is. And yes there is a double standard in our society today. Is it fair? No, but it's there and will be there for many years to come and it's there because it's still rather fresh in history. Sure if you wanted to be technical you could say Anglo Saxxons were enslaved by the tiny Italian men from Rome and Muslims from the eastern empires but they happened so long ago they are not remembered. That will eventually happen with America's past as well. As the saying goes "Time heals all wounds".

Edit: And oh this is coming from a 100% full blooded Puerto Rican, just in case someone decides to throw out the "your defending your own race" arguement I've heard before.

I love the smell of hypocrisy in the evening.

Racism is racism, no matter who it's aimed at.

This pretty much sums it up.

 

[Booze Zombie]

Actually, I would get pretty pissed at anyone of any colour for trying to be racist to me, regardless of my own colour.

Wanna be racist and then justify it by the actions of dead men? Fuck you.

 

[Alex_P]

Y'all are still taking the thread's oversimplified bullshit premise for granted.

It's kinda maddening.

-- Alex

 

[Booze Zombie]

http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/2008/08/05/slave1_fpMLi_18279.jpg

http://www.st-marys.hull.sch.uk/sites/history/images/kkk.jpg

So i think we owe black people something, you'll just have to deal with it.

Suggesting that "we" owe people of a certain skin colour something is actually pretty damn racist...

I did nothing involving slavery.

 

[CrashBang]

because white people weren't subjected to a couple hundred years of slavery under black people. doesn't mean I like it though

This. It's accepted because white people were never enslaved by black people, but it's still unfair and hypocritical when so many preach of equality and equal rights

 

[internutt]

Throughout history every nation was a slave and a master at some point in their history.

The Israelites had slaves for a time.
Roman's enslaved.
Egyptians enslaved.
African tribes enslaved.
Mexican's enslaved (Mayans, or was it Inca?)
Native Americans probably enslaved each other at different points.

We should just forget the past. There are no American's who have been forced to work in the cotton fields for a good few generations now. I honestly wish Americans would just drop the whole thing. Everyone agree to just be normal without any 'guilt'. Differences are differences and they mean nothing to me inside or outside a person. We're all human. Thanks to the internet we've never been closer to one another. We shouldn't treat anyone nicer because someone who looked like them was once in chains, nor should we treat them any worse because of it.

 

[chstens]

The very term "race" is racist in itself, because it claims that races excist, so to end racism, we should start with getting rid of the word "race" when describing humans. It's not much, but it's a start.

 

[2012 Wont Happen]

Because I am responsible for the crimes of my ancestors even though I've never met them and don't condone their actions and am totally different from them.

Therefore racism against me and other whites is obviously just retribution.

See:

Spoiler: this song

 

[Hexenwolf]

The very term "race" is racist in itself, because it claims that races excist, so to end racism, we should start with getting rid of the word "race" when describing humans. It's not much, but it's a start.

That's ridiculous, there are races, you can't claim they don't exist simply because you don't want them to. There are real, testable, genetic differences between races. However, they're not the type of differences that Racist people imagine. For example, saying all black people like watermelon is ridiculous and racist. But saying that white people are more likely to get skin cancer isn't racist, it's true.

Let me give you an example of what you're saying.

"We should abolish the idea of different sexes. There is no male or female, we are all under the category of human. Such words as he and she should be eliminated from the english language. This will help eliminate sexism."

Or how about this?

"Great danes and chihuahuas are both dogs, and there should be no distinctions made between the two."

Can you see now how ridiculous it would be to get rid of the concept of races? That is not to say that racism is right, it is very, very wrong. I would say that racists have a mild form of mental retardation preventing them from thinking critically. Just because blacks and whites have different skin cancer probabilities doesn't mean they should be treated differently on a societal level. They are both capable of full complex reasoning and emotions; they're both human on a basic level. Anyone that applies enough thought to it should come to that conclusion.

Hmm... rambling is fun ^..^

EDIT:

Because I am responsible for the crimes of my ancestors even though I've never met them and don't condone their actions and am totally different from them.

Therefore racism against me and other whites is obviously just retribution.

Amen.

 

[Kajin]

Most people take equality for granted. They think it's something we're owed. But it's not. It's something you have to work for, to fight for, and most people I come across just don't seem to get it. Because of our history, white men and to a lesser extent white women are often regarded as less worthy for equal treatment. We all fall victim to this belief regardless of our race, gender or religion. It's not our fault, it's just the mindset that's been built up over the years. It's why that, for the most part, someone will call out a white guy for being racist and support the black women who may in fact be solely motivated by nothing but racism.

I'm glad for the fact that I'll be long dead in a hundred years when muslims are the dominant race/religion. I won't be subject to the worldwide white enslavement movement XD

 

[SomeUnregPunk]

racism ain't going away even if all the world suddenly went to heaven.

I know of Indians in India... southern Indians has some real bad views/ideas of northerners and vice versa. In America we got blacks that treat blacks fine but other colors like second or third class citizens. And the reverse is seen to happen. It's weird. Almost like people need to feel good by tromping on another.

 

[Hybridwolf]

Once again another idealism gone wrong. Yes, lets back ourselves into a corner so that when we make some joke about black people we're monsters. But if a black person makes a joke about whitey, we have to take it, becauuse it's "racist" to backchat them. But lets face it, we made it happen, so there is nothing to be done about it. We allowed the few people who want to abuse the people who slaves them 200 years ago to insult them. Least we let them free.

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

-snip-

And that's very well put. It is kind of depressing, to be honest. And I can see why people skimming over comments and not observing your explanation of where this thread went wrong is irritating.

because we had our turn

can't wait for district 9 incidentally, of course it has to be set in south africa for there to be segregation

Pardon?

im not racist at all and i think none should be judged by color. with that out of the way i want to ask something.

why is it a big deal if a white man is racist to a black man

but if a black man is racist to a white man its like "who gives a shit"

I love it when posts about race carry disclaimers

To answer your specific query however, consider it an issue of scale. If I, as a white person, make a racist comment towards a black person, I am continuing a legacy of oppression and discrimination that stretches back hundreds of years. On the other hand, if the situation is reversed, and the black person makes a racist comment towards me, then it's one person calling me names, and I can shrug it off without a second thought.

And that's very well put as well. I...don't have much more to say than that.

 

[0thello]

Oh really? Are we really going to do this now, here and in THIS fashion?

This thread is a testament to how laughable this site is.

 

[Disaster Button]

I don't think it's cos of Slavery, don't get me wrong I'm not trying to say it was a bad thing, but in today's times it's deffinitely more of a Double Standard.

It's either ignored, pushed under the carpet. Or sometimes not even noticed. Personally I don't think Racism should be such a hot topic, or reacted to so violently. I mean yes it's bad in most cases, and I'm not denying it. But a lot of the time it's picked up or implied when it's not even there.

 

[Alex_P]

And I can see why people skimming over comments and not observing your explanation of where this thread went wrong is irritating.

Good thing I still have magic moderator powers to abuse.

-- Alex, who doesn't feel bad about editing a three-line post

 

[Zildjin81]

Well considering whites were racist and done horrible things towards:

Native Americans
Blacks
Asians
Latinos
Middle easterners
Hindus
Jews
and even their own women. (You know not having any civil rights and all)

I can see why being ignorant towards them is acceptable.

Edit: Ok this came out wrong. Lets just say that this was all in the past, I mean no offence, and that all forms of racism is wrong.

Because you who is totally not white? Jews I mean like have you seen them?

/sarcasm

 

[G1eet]

Good thing I still have magic moderator powers to abuse.

-- Alex, who doesn't feel bad about editing a three-line post

*Cue cackle and lightning backdrop*

On topic, racism is deplorable in every form, and I urge you fellow Escapists to spread the word. I don't know how people started disregarding the right comments, and reading the absolute wrong ones. Meanwhile, I'll skeedadle before this gets any further out of hand.