Racists boycott Thor movie because of Idris Elba playing a god
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. Because I'm sure that takes place in the middle east and no white people live there if i remember right 
Have to say I slightly agree with them. Heimdell is white in the comics therefore should be white in the movie. I'm well aware they're aliens but still... comic... white character...
Taking liberties fair enough but when you state the character as X he should remain X, if they can justify it fair enough.
For example if they made a Sandman movie and they casted Sandman as a black actor then fair enough as Sandman did spend some time as a black man to woo a woman. But in that case when he's in his normal form he should be as white as virgin snow as he quite literary white in colour and not white like we are. My problem with this is that if we were to remake the Zulu film and cast all the members of the British army as Asians and black folk and all the tribes men white, apart from being massively insensitive to the massacre of the natives it would also look stupid as it does kind of in this case (unless of course Heimdell becomes black at some point in the comics of course).
Now before someone states Jesus was Arabic and yet is portrayed as white well, I agree there he should be a bit more tanned and that should be corrected but its never stated what god's form is like (Apart from being male but that can still be changed because its god he unlike other gods has no set form, e.g Thor will always be a beardy white man with a hammer) and I loved Morgan Freemans role as god in that movie that I cant remember the name of as he was the only good part.
When skin colour is a part of the character it should stay constant, for example William Wallace being white was a part of who he is, ditto goes for Bruce Wayne. One is a real person and the other is fictional but both are established as being white. Just in the same way I?d be annoyed if anyone other than a black man played Steel, he?s black in the comics it?s a part of who he is.
But I'm not a big fan of the comics so this doesn't bother me that much as its a minor character so I'll still watch and enough the movie.
Taking liberties fair enough but when you state the character as X he should remain X, if they can justify it fair enough.
For example if they made a Sandman movie and they casted Sandman as a black actor then fair enough as Sandman did spend some time as a black man to woo a woman. But in that case when he's in his normal form he should be as white as virgin snow as he quite literary white in colour and not white like we are. My problem with this is that if we were to remake the Zulu film and cast all the members of the British army as Asians and black folk and all the tribes men white, apart from being massively insensitive to the massacre of the natives it would also look stupid as it does kind of in this case (unless of course Heimdell becomes black at some point in the comics of course).
Now before someone states Jesus was Arabic and yet is portrayed as white well, I agree there he should be a bit more tanned and that should be corrected but its never stated what god's form is like (Apart from being male but that can still be changed because its god he unlike other gods has no set form, e.g Thor will always be a beardy white man with a hammer) and I loved Morgan Freemans role as god in that movie that I cant remember the name of as he was the only good part.
When skin colour is a part of the character it should stay constant, for example William Wallace being white was a part of who he is, ditto goes for Bruce Wayne. One is a real person and the other is fictional but both are established as being white. Just in the same way I?d be annoyed if anyone other than a black man played Steel, he?s black in the comics it?s a part of who he is.
But I'm not a big fan of the comics so this doesn't bother me that much as its a minor character so I'll still watch and enough the movie.
Meanwhile, no one else gives a damn what some racists think and everyone still sees the movie regardless.
Can we maybe stop assuming that whenever a black actor or actress gets a 'white' part it must be down to political correctness..Zeeky_Santos said:
You know, maybe he's just a good actor. Maybe he blitzed the shit out of the audition and the casting people couldn't see anyone else playing the part. Maybe he brought an angle to the character which no-one else did and they felt it fitted the story. We have no idea what went on in the decision making process, so assuming he's being handed the part as some kind of racial concession is borderline offensive.
And yet these are the same sort of poeple who throw a fit if Jesus is depicted as anything other than a caucasian.
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I'm sure the Norse were mostly all white, and as such would see their gods in the same manner. Of course, if you assume the gods came first (as is the case in EVERY creation myth) then the opinions and depictions of the culture supporting that religion don't me dick. Some people just look for something to get angry over because life would be too easy without jackasses.
On an unrelated note, I'm likely going to boycott the movie as well, but for completely different reasons. I'm boycotting it because I think Hollywood is a bunch of cheap-ass hacks that think expensive special effects make a good show.
On an unrelated note, I'm likely going to boycott the movie as well, but for completely different reasons. I'm boycotting it because I think Hollywood is a bunch of cheap-ass hacks that think expensive special effects make a good show.
Okay while reading all I thought was: So does CCC means Cuke Cuke Clan? I mean Kuke and Kuke aren't actual words, so I think you can spell them any way you want and Klan is better written as Clan.icame said:
Other then that what is the point of your post? Yeah, conservative racist are stupid. (both conservatives and racist are able to posses some level of intelligence, but people that are racist and conservative are certainly not (of course there is always the exception that confirms the rule)). I mean are we really suppose to give a **** about what upsets people like that? I mean, Really? I don't know about you guys, but I have better things to do with my time.
It absolute crap, the Vikings had contact with many different people from the middle east to the western coast of Africa, hell they even unsuccessfully colonized North America. They met dark skinned people and they would have generally treat everyone the same, even if that treatment may sometimes come negatively in the form of raiding.
Therefore I don't a norseman would find it unreasonable that there might be black asgardians, because he would believe his gods were not just his peoples but everyones.
Therefore I don't a norseman would find it unreasonable that there might be black asgardians, because he would believe his gods were not just his peoples but everyones.
Jesus certainly wasn't "white", if he tried to take a plane today he'd be given a private search. Jesus was a middle eastern Jew, he would have had dark hair and possibly very dark skin given the amount of sun exposure.Kenko said:
Has been said already, but I put too much work not to post again.
Hang about, Shiva is mythical, right? Shiva can destroy worlds. That's OK, but the Shiva being portrayed by a Native American is wrong?
How about for this site specifically, I'm white I was cast as Goku, I'm white I was cast as characters in Avatar, see where I'm going with this? Those guys are wrong on everything else, but Norse Gods are white, period. African Gods are African, SHOCKING!
Heimdall isn't just white, he's blonde hair blue eyes white. He's so white that when he goes skiing you can't see him in the snow. He's so white he gets sunburn from a 40 watt light bulb.
I guess here goes the famous portraits of Heimdall:
I'll still watch it, I'll still enjoy it, I'll watch the second one. And Idris Elba will probably do an amazing job, but the point stands.
Yes, insulting a religion is the right way to go. LOL, hang about, Jesus is mythical, right? Jesus can turn water to wine, and ressurrect the dead. That's OK, but him being portrayed as *white/black/mexican/arab/everything everyone changes it* is wrong?icame said:
Hang about, Shiva is mythical, right? Shiva can destroy worlds. That's OK, but the Shiva being portrayed by a Native American is wrong?
How about for this site specifically, I'm white I was cast as Goku, I'm white I was cast as characters in Avatar, see where I'm going with this? Those guys are wrong on everything else, but Norse Gods are white, period. African Gods are African, SHOCKING!
[HEADING=1]Heimdall, called "The White God". Whitest of the aesir(all Norse Gods), as white as the sun.[/HEADING]WolfThomas said:
Heimdall isn't just white, he's blonde hair blue eyes white. He's so white that when he goes skiing you can't see him in the snow. He's so white he gets sunburn from a 40 watt light bulb.
I guess here goes the famous portraits of Heimdall:
I'll still watch it, I'll still enjoy it, I'll watch the second one. And Idris Elba will probably do an amazing job, but the point stands.
Oh yeah I forgot that hillarious aspect. Okay, so maybe this is inaccurate, but I'd still accept black asgardians in other roles. But hey if we're lucky they'll lampshade it.Rationalization said:
Thanks for a well written post.
Elba is a cracking actor, he was fantastic in The Wire, and that is why he has been cast. It's that simple. He has a promising career in front of him, and I'm sure a big mmovie like this will propel him to new heights.
It makes me sad that there are still people in the world, in this day and age, that still can't see past skin colour.
Elba is a cracking actor, he was fantastic in The Wire, and that is why he has been cast. It's that simple. He has a promising career in front of him, and I'm sure a big mmovie like this will propel him to new heights.
It makes me sad that there are still people in the world, in this day and age, that still can't see past skin colour.
Ok, Black or White, that looks pretty damn awesome and probably the closest to a real-life Jack Kirby look as we're ever gonna get.
So now, we have to deal with a racist group wanting all white Norse gods, just like we had to deal with a group of racists crying about us killing black zombies in RE5? I mean really, C'mon? There has to be better places they can spend money on crying about and actually do something that will help everyone, like, find the cure for cancer or something.
This is stupid. When making Dogma, Kevin Smith got death threats because he had a 13 appostle that was left out of the Bible because he was black and portrayed God as a woman. People need to get a grip, religion is open to interpretation. The way I see it, these are a bunch of racists that have jumped on this just to be racist. Sure, some of them are probably religious, but like the student protests in London, people just turn up to cause trouble.