RAGE: Biggest overreaction ever?

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Macrobstar

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Ok so reading the comments on the escapists sensationalist article "Used RAGE Will have no singleplayer !!!1111" I was astounded by how many people either didn't read the article or read it and decided to make something up in there head

So basically for those who didn't know, if you buy RAGE new you get access to a small sewer section that is not connected to the main plot, if you buy it used you have to purchase a code.
So its basically day one DLC, the thing that EA and other developers have been doing for ages

So basically because of the way the escapist reported it people have been boycotting the game and overreacting because apparently this is a game breaking thing, and i thought I'd make this thread because its easier than just correcting all the idiots in that topics

This is still a slightly underhanded move, but its nothing new and certainly nothing game changing, think the stone prisoner for DA:O
 

oplinger

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I wouldn't call it underhanded. Unless they didn't tell us about it. .I haven't even seen the article, but the threads are already ridiculous to me.

It's like a few months ago when everyone just wanted to talk about how game companies are scamming us honest folk who bought the game used and helped gamestop rise to the top of the mountain, and we're being treated like criminals by the devs because they don't see any money and we're like pirates, but i'm not a pirate, so they're mean and they smell :mad:

...Ahhh...good times...good times.
 

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So much over-reaction, so much ignorance. I'm not especially interested in RAGE, doesn't look too special, but it is at least sounding polished - something to pick up in a sale over the next couple of years. The reaction makes it out to be the second coming of Christ, defiled by there not actually being a Christ. I dun get it - I guess console gamers just really love their second-hand sales or something...
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
I wouldnt blame the escapist, you cant blame them just because people are too stupid to read.

Anyhow, I actually think what they will be doing with RAGE is a good idea. Not the always on DRM, which needs to be taken outside and shot, but rather the small portion of the single player map which is exclusive to people who buy new. Why not?
Well the front page headline was literally "Used rages cuts single player" It gave the impression that it had no single player, but they changed it now
 

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Day one DLC is a pretty common concept, and is such old news by now that It really doesnt even bother me, did when it started of course, but you have to adapt.

I think the issue people took with it was that they didn't really specify that it would be day one DLC, they said it in a way that implied it was exclusive content they just didn't plan to ever give to people who don't buy new, which is just plain stupid.

Or atleast that's what I heard, maybe I didn't read it properly, either way if its just a day one DLC pack, I'm okay with that.
 

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I think it's a much better alternative to the "no multiplayer" angle.

Then again, I think just giving out a trial for the thing you're blocking with used versions works better than both.
 

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Wait, why is what id is doing okay because EA has already done it? Just because it's been done before doesn't mean I should be happy about it.
 

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Yes. It was an overreaction. It's nothing unusual really. People got hooked by a bad headline, didn't read the article, and went on a rage-spree. It seems more people think with their emotions than with their head more often or not.

SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
I wouldnt blame the escapist, you cant blame them just because people are too stupid to read.
Why wouldn't you blame the Escapist? They were the ones who decided to use an exploitative, sensationalist headline to rile up emotions and grab views. Of COURSE it was their fault. This isn't a practice new to this site. The overall journalistic integrity here ranges from acceptable to questionable.
 

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orangeban said:
Wait, why is what id is doing okay because EA has already done it? Just because it's been done before doesn't mean I should be happy about it.
Its the fact that people are getting up in arms about it, when loads of developers have been doing it for years, I don't necessarily like it but i'm not angry because I've been dealing with it for years
 

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Macrobstar said:
Ok so reading the comments on the escapists sensationalist article "Used RAGE Will have no singleplayer !!!1111" I was astounded by how many people either didn't read the article or read it and decided to make something up in there head

So basically for those who didn't know, if you buy RAGE new you get access to a small sewer section that is not connected to the main plot, if you buy it used you have to purchase a code.
So its basically day one DLC, the thing that EA and other developers have been doing for ages

So basically because of the way the escapist reported it people have been boycotting the game and overreacting because apparently this is a game breaking thing, and i thought I'd make this thread because its easier than just correcting all the idiots in that topics

This is still a slightly underhanded move, but its nothing new and certainly nothing game changing, think the stone prisoner for DA:O
Because it's propagating punishment for us poor unwashed masses without internet who buy games new. We still don't get it, so we're getting over the barrel anyways. All I know is it actually makes me buy used more because the incentive is unattainable. I buy new because I don't want to wait, or because it's promising, but more and more I and people like me are being neglected because publishers think it's okay to punish people for what they might do. I won't pirate, I've been there I've felt bad, it's illegal, but there's nothing illegal about second-hand sales. If publishers don't want to support me I won't support them.
 

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Stall said:
Yes. It was an overreaction. It's nothing unusual really. People got hooked by a bad headline, didn't read the article, and went on a rage-spree. It seems more people think with their emotions than with their head more often or not.

SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
I wouldnt blame the escapist, you cant blame them just because people are too stupid to read.
Why wouldn't you blame the Escapist? They were the ones who decided to use an exploitative, sensationalist headline to rile up emotions and grab views. Of COURSE it was their fault. This isn't a practice new to this site. The overall journalistic integrity here ranges from acceptable to questionable.
This is basically my overall sentiment, but worded slightly more sensibly, glad i'm not the only sane person on this site
 

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I think part of the rage (lol) over it stems from id Software's early legacy. Back in the 90's gamers were passing around shareware copies of Wolfenstein 3D and Doom like there was no tomorrow. It's part of the reason why the games became so popular.

Now it appears they've jumped into the same boat as EA, an act that I'm sure many longtime fans see as a betrayal of that legacy (I've never really been much of an id Software fan, so feel free to correct me on this if I'm wrong).
 

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Inkidu said:
Macrobstar said:
Ok so reading the comments on the escapists sensationalist article "Used RAGE Will have no singleplayer !!!1111" I was astounded by how many people either didn't read the article or read it and decided to make something up in there head

So basically for those who didn't know, if you buy RAGE new you get access to a small sewer section that is not connected to the main plot, if you buy it used you have to purchase a code.
So its basically day one DLC, the thing that EA and other developers have been doing for ages

So basically because of the way the escapist reported it people have been boycotting the game and overreacting because apparently this is a game breaking thing, and i thought I'd make this thread because its easier than just correcting all the idiots in that topics

This is still a slightly underhanded move, but its nothing new and certainly nothing game changing, think the stone prisoner for DA:O
Because it's propagating punishment for us poor unwashed masses without internet who buy games new. We still don't get it, so we're getting over the barrel anyways. All I know is it actually makes me buy used more because the incentive is unattainable. I buy new because I don't want to wait, or because it's promising, but more and more I and people like me are being neglected because publishers think it's okay to punish people for what they might do. I won't pirate, I've been there I've felt bad, it's illegal, but there's nothing illegal about second-hand sales. If publishers don't want to support me I won't support them.
It does suck for you people, but RAGE is just following a trend started by EA, you can enjoy the majority of the game, just not the missing sewer level
 

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Zhukov said:
I'd say you're overreacting to the overreaction.
I may be slightly, it just annoys me because the escapist knows that people will cut and run with it without reading the article, the least they could do is give people the correct idea of whats going on
 

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Macrobstar said:
Zhukov said:
I'd say you're overreacting to the overreaction.
I may be slightly, it just annoys me because the escapist knows that people will cut and run with it without reading the article, the least they could do is give people the correct idea of whats going on
I do not get your point.

The developers are removing a piece of content from used copies of the game.

The article is titled Rage Cuts Single-Player When You Buy It Used.

That title is accurate. Where is the problem?
 

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Macrobstar said:
Inkidu said:
Macrobstar said:
Ok so reading the comments on the escapists sensationalist article "Used RAGE Will have no singleplayer !!!1111" I was astounded by how many people either didn't read the article or read it and decided to make something up in there head

So basically for those who didn't know, if you buy RAGE new you get access to a small sewer section that is not connected to the main plot, if you buy it used you have to purchase a code.
So its basically day one DLC, the thing that EA and other developers have been doing for ages

So basically because of the way the escapist reported it people have been boycotting the game and overreacting because apparently this is a game breaking thing, and i thought I'd make this thread because its easier than just correcting all the idiots in that topics

This is still a slightly underhanded move, but its nothing new and certainly nothing game changing, think the stone prisoner for DA:O
Because it's propagating punishment for us poor unwashed masses without internet who buy games new. We still don't get it, so we're getting over the barrel anyways. All I know is it actually makes me buy used more because the incentive is unattainable. I buy new because I don't want to wait, or because it's promising, but more and more I and people like me are being neglected because publishers think it's okay to punish people for what they might do. I won't pirate, I've been there I've felt bad, it's illegal, but there's nothing illegal about second-hand sales. If publishers don't want to support me I won't support them.
It does suck for you people, but RAGE is just following a trend started by EA, you can enjoy the majority of the game, just not the missing sewer level
I just think it's a slippery slope, first it was additional content, then it's locking out levels, now some PC games have gone to always online. Soon they will be locking out entire single player campaigns and whatnot. It's the principle of the thing too. I should miss out on content because I did everything right, but don't have the means (which a lot of people don't) to get online to collect. That's just wrong, fundamentally and morally wrong.
 

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I read the headline and was sort of appalled (not really the right word...I was appalled as I can be about I'm not interested in). Then I read the story and thought, "errr...this has been happening for years now".

So, yeah. It was a case of a sensationalist headline: Rage Cuts Single-Player When You Buy It Used

But I looked up the newsie and saw that he is new. So...he'll learn, I guess. Either way, it's a good practice to read an entire article before you provide your opinion anyway.
 

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I buy a lot of my games used for the cheaper prices, I will not pay extra to fix the single player in a game I probably will not buy brand new, so I will not get rage, I'm sure the game will be fine but what their doing isn't making me want the game more, rather it would just make me regret buying it later
 

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It was funny at first when people were threatening boycotts against game company's who included new game and day 1 dlc bonuses. But it still seems people don't seem to grasp the futility of the whole and it's starting to get stupid. I'll explain it again.

The only way these things will affect you is if you buy your game used. When you buy a game used the developer/ publisher doesn't see any of your money. So as far as they are concerned you didn't buy the game. Since you didn't buy the game you aren't a paying customer so your opinion is meaningless.

What are you going to do about it? Not buy the game more? Start a boycott? How? In order for a boycott to be successful you need to convince people to not buy the game at launch and or cancel their preorders. Since those people still get all the content this issue doesn't affect them. So there's no way you are going to convince them to join your cause. They aren't going to care about the fact that you can't get the free map packs because you wanted to save five dollars at GameStop.

It's not like they don't make the stuff available as dlc. If you wanted the Dragon Age Origins Stone prisoner or the Bad Company 2 VIP code you could still buy them.