Ragequits and you

[Zeldias]

I once quit Etrian Odyssey 4 in fury. I was at the Boiling Lizard and I was basically a few hits from victory. I was underleveled and it had been a long, exhausting fight. It spawns two flame scales. Archer takes one out with the Ice Spike, Nightseeker uses hers and...It's dodged? An inanimate object dodged? And naturally, I set my guys to attack because why would I expect an inanimate object to dodge? Everyone but the Dancer died that round, and I swear to you I howled in rage and turned off the 3DS.

I've never rage quit in a multiplayer setting. I've dropped shitty PuGs in MMOs but that doesn't count I don't think. I've had people ragequit on me in fighters though, because losing to my Gen in SF4 is like losing a game of chess to a brick. In 3rd Strike, I had a ragequit because I play Makoto and Oro, one of which steamrolls you with stun combos and relentless mix-ups, and the other I must imagine is just annoying as hell to play. I think I had a rage quit in Skullgirls because I was about to get a reverse OCV with Parasoul, but I'm not sure. And in the early days of MvC, I caused one guy to freak right the fuck out because his team Cool Man (Wolvie/Dante/Akuma) couldn't deal with my zoning team (Deadpool/Ammy/Arthur).

 

[DarkhoIlow]

My earliest memory of me rage quitting was back around 11 years ago when I went to a internet cafe decided to play Clive Barker's Undying.

So I decided to check it out. I remember reaching the point where you were looking at a painting and a ghost came out. That thing scared me so much that I took off my headphones and said "Screw this game!", left it and ran out of the cafe. I haven't replayed it since. Guess it pretty much scarred me a little.

I don't enjoy horror games or movies all that much. I enjoy the usual slasher ones like Friday the 13th or Resident Evil, Dead Space, but anything that scares you or tries to screw with your mind I tend to not touch. There are a few exceptions however, but I wouldn't touch games like Amnesia or Slender.

That could count as a rage quit I guess. Other than that, I can't say that I've had many that I can recall, usually just keep going at it until I beat the obstacle that I'm faced with, one way or another.

 

[DarthSka]

I tend to rage quit on online multiplayer when I play by myself, but not so much when I'm playing with friends. For single player, I have to be absolutely enraged to the point where I'm seeing red. One that stands out is that "stealth" mission in Far Cry 3 where you're not allowed to kill anyone, you have to sneak around undetected, and the rock throwing mechanic decides not to work. That took me close to 2 hours with many rage quits in between. More recently, it's occurred during a part in Bioshock Infinite where you have to protect an object from wave after wave of enemies. This type of mission is one that I absolutely hate in any game, so to mar such a great experience like this was an even harder kick in the teeth than that type of mission usually is.

 

[The Wykydtron]

Ah ragequitting, a topic near and dear to my own heart. I have many, many thoughts on this issue. Mostly related how to fuck over those who ragequit as much as possible. First some brief thoughts:

1) I don't really think it's ragequitting if it's a single player game. Sure there may be rage and you're definitely quitting but in all likelihood you're quitting at a point that is possible to come back to, i.e. a really obnoxious boss fight. There isn't, unless you're say the controller tossing type, any real harm to be done here.

2) If you ragequit in a fighting game and there weren't any issues during the match (i.e. the connection was fine; if there where issues during the match then for the love of god disconnect when they occur not when you're about to lose because of them) you're a *****. Take your loss. If you don't want to see people taunting you then get better at the game or stop playing it.

You have no idea how annoyed that statement makes me. People don't just randomly GET BETTER at a fighting game just like that. It takes some real effort and time to even learn the basics, let alone learn to deal with someone who knows what they're doing, never mind dealing with the horde of swag combos and crazy set ups online. I absolutely understand how frustrating it is when you're vs someone who is legitimately 50 times better than you. Then he decides to be a twat about it and taunt you for fuck all reason.

So basically, what I take away from that statement is "be good at this game or you can fuck off." Joy. Heaven forbid I play a fighting game because I enjoy simply playing it regardless of how much I win. That would be crazy. L2P scrub.

No people don't get better randomly they get better at a fighting games through practice. Something that I suspect, from the nature of your complaints, that you're not doing enough of. Hell, it's what you should be doing for 99% of the time that you're actually playing the game. I know in UMvC3 that I don't take a team online or to a gathering until I have hours and hours under my belt with that team. It could even be a team that's comprised entirely of characters that I'm familiar with but if this is some new configuration then it's time for more cowbell...er...training room. That person who's doing those crazy swag combos and has all those setups has probably put a hell of a lot more time into the game than you have. It might not be as physically taxing but actually getting good at fighting games requires every bit the dedication and training as an actual sport. Also you know what, they could be the biggest swinging dick on the planet but if I played someone who was legitimately 50x better than me at SFIV or UMvC3 I wouldn't care if they styled on me or taunted after every round or character kill because I'd be focused on trying to learn even one iota of what they where doing that was making them effective so that I might apply it to someone else later. Here's a more expanded phrasing of what I said above: get better at the game or shut up about losing and that there's no excuse for ragequitting.

Him putting time into the game = license to go full Dick Mode? Sorry but I can never accept that. Have as much swag as you want, I don't mind how badly you style the shit out of me. Why does having swag excuse them from behaving like, I don't know, decent human beings? Anyway I said I only quit vs taunting DW's. Because it's so hard to make a Wesker comeback. I mean he has to press buttons :O

I wonder why I have never once quit a BlazBlue match apart from one or two internet drops. Oh right, because it's fun. I barely have a 10% win rate, if even that. My UMVC3 win rate only just dropped below positive after a year of playing the game because I was dicking around with several new teams for ages. You know a decent amount of people on XBL actually message me with fucking advice on how to improve in BB after a match? If that happened in UMVC3 I would have to see a doctor about my hallucinations.

My point is, not everyone plays specifically and absolutely to win. I just play because they are y'know, fun games?

I know the problem, UMVC3 is practically a full time Salt Dispenser. People have been fucked over by comebacks a few times so when they believe they shut one down they can't mash that taunt button fast enough. Like how I play Phoenix occasionally (up front, Jean Gray style not 5 bar destruction Dark Phoenix) and people just take that as an excuse to taunt just because Dark Phoenix comebacks exist. Personally I find Dark Phoenix to be an INCREDIBLE waste of 5 bars. If end up with Phoenix last with 5 bars, I prefer having 5 Phoenix Infernos on standby because it has great invincibility and damage AND it throws them the hell away from your squishy ass.

 

[Username Redacted]

Him putting time into the game = license to go full Dick Mode? Sorry but I can never accept that. Have as much swag as you want, I don't mind how badly you style the shit out of me. Why does having swag excuse them from behaving like, I don't know, decent human beings? Anyway I said I only quit vs taunting DW's. Because it's so hard to make a Wesker comeback. I mean he has to press buttons :O

No being better is not a license to be a dick. But neither is getting taunted a license to quit. Also Dark Wesker?!? *sigh* Firstly that's not a particularly optimal strategy for them to be employing. Secondly if you're, for some reason, still having an issue with it why complain about it? Look for a solution. Pick an anchor that matches up well against him. Develop a set-up that catches when he comes in so that the opponent doesn't get to play at all. Hell, the game even has a mechanic built in for this specific situation in the Snap-back. The fact that you're complaining about a problem rather than trying to solve it and then using that problem as justification for an incredibly immature response to taunting is just sad to me.

I wonder why I have never once quit a BlazBlue match apart from one or two internet drops. Oh right, because it's fun. I barely have a 10% win rate, if even that. My UMVC3 win rate only just dropped below positive after a year of playing the game because I was dicking around with several new teams for ages. You know a decent amount of people on XBL actually message me with fucking advice on how to improve in BB after a match? If that happened in UMVC3 I would have to see a doctor about my hallucinations.

I'm going to guess that you've never quit a BlazBlue match because that game locks out a players controls the second a round ends which means that there's no post match taunting or t-bagging.

My point is, not everyone plays specifically and absolutely to win. I just play because they are y'know, fun games?

That's fine. Just don't try to justify ragequitting.

I know the problem, UMVC3 is practically a full time Salt Dispenser. People have been fucked over by comebacks a few times so when they believe they shut one down they can't mash that taunt button fast enough. Like how I play Phoenix occasionally (up front, Jean Gray style not 5 bar destruction Dark Phoenix) and people just take that as an excuse to taunt just because Dark Phoenix comebacks exist. Personally I find Dark Phoenix to be an INCREDIBLE waste of 5 bars. If end up with Phoenix last with 5 bars, I prefer having 5 Phoenix Infernos on standby because it has great invincibility and damage AND it throws them the hell away from your squishy ass.

Depending on the range if you're not getting killed for throwing out a Phoenix Rage to create space then I cringe at the quality of people you're playing. It should probably be more like one Phoenix Rage and then a dead Phoenix.

 

[The Wykydtron]

Him putting time into the game = license to go full Dick Mode? Sorry but I can never accept that. Have as much swag as you want, I don't mind how badly you style the shit out of me. Why does having swag excuse them from behaving like, I don't know, decent human beings? Anyway I said I only quit vs taunting DW's. Because it's so hard to make a Wesker comeback. I mean he has to press buttons :O

No being better is not a license to be a dick. But neither is getting taunted a license to quit. Also Dark Wesker?!? *sigh* Firstly that's not a particularly optimal strategy for them to be employing. Secondly if you're, for some reason, still having an issue with it why complain about it? Look for a solution. Pick an anchor that matches up well against him. Develop a set-up that catches when he comes in so that the opponent doesn't get to play at all. Hell, the game even has a mechanic built in for this specific situation in the Snap-back. The fact that you're complaining about a problem rather than trying to solve it and then using that problem as justification for an incredibly immature response to taunting is just sad to me.

I wonder why I have never once quit a BlazBlue match apart from one or two internet drops. Oh right, because it's fun. I barely have a 10% win rate, if even that. My UMVC3 win rate only just dropped below positive after a year of playing the game because I was dicking around with several new teams for ages. You know a decent amount of people on XBL actually message me with fucking advice on how to improve in BB after a match? If that happened in UMVC3 I would have to see a doctor about my hallucinations.

I'm going to guess that you've never quit a BlazBlue match because that game locks out a players controls the second a round ends which means that there's no post match taunting or t-bagging.

My point is, not everyone plays specifically and absolutely to win. I just play because they are y'know, fun games?

That's fine. Just don't try to justify ragequitting.

I know the problem, UMVC3 is practically a full time Salt Dispenser. People have been fucked over by comebacks a few times so when they believe they shut one down they can't mash that taunt button fast enough. Like how I play Phoenix occasionally (up front, Jean Gray style not 5 bar destruction Dark Phoenix) and people just take that as an excuse to taunt just because Dark Phoenix comebacks exist. Personally I find Dark Phoenix to be an INCREDIBLE waste of 5 bars. If end up with Phoenix last with 5 bars, I prefer having 5 Phoenix Infernos on standby because it has great invincibility and damage AND it throws them the hell away from your squishy ass.

Depending on the range if you're not getting killed for throwing out a Phoenix Rage to create space then I cringe at the quality of people you're playing. It should probably be more like one Phoenix Rage and then a dead Phoenix.

Give me some credit please. I'm not going to randomly throw Phoenix Inferno at people. It's just got full invincibility on start up so it's REALLY good at punishing any random beam supers or what have you. Beam supers are just so good at chipping her to death. I'm not THAT bad.

I'm pretty sure my adamant character loyalty has some thing to do with it. I'm not going to change my anchor just on the off chance the randomer of the day uses Wesker. I've been playing Phoenix Wright since launch and X-23 for almost as long and i'll be damned if i'm ever going to stop. I don't have a solid third character I like yet though. I could keep with Vergil but he got boring, my Dante is either terrible or half decent depending on my mood and Morrigan doesn't have the best damage even when I can do her half fancy relaunch combo with two supers.

I guess my limit is that I don't believe in making the swaggiest team possible. I only care about how much I like the characters themselves, regardless of the fuck all synergy.

And hey if the guy is immature enough to taunt me, i'm mature enough to know that acting a little immature myself is perfectly fine occasionally :3

Phoenix Wright WRECKS Dark Phoenix by the way.

"DARK PHOENIX R-"

"The one who actually committed the crime... IS YOU!"

Fucking funny

Oh and yes, the fact that BB has a sensible round ending system does help. It should be mandatory in every fighting game ever. It doesn't force you into this little 6 second window where the game literally pastes "YOU SUCK" on your screen. BB is just more fluid in general.

 

[Username Redacted]

Give me some credit please. I'm not going to randomly throw Phoenix Inferno at people. It's just got full invincibility on start up so it's REALLY good at punishing any random beam supers or what have you. Beam supers are just so good at chipping her to death. I'm not THAT bad.

Phoenix Wright WRECKS Dark Phoenix by the way.

"DARK PHOENIX R-"

"The one who actually committed the crime... IS YOU!"

Fucking funny

Content has been rearranged to make my reply make more sense. If you're beating someone who's got Dark Phoenix up and running with Turnabout mode Phoenix Wright, a character on the short list for worst character in the game, then I'm sorry but I'm going to have to stand by my statement of cringing at the quality of your opposition.

I'm pretty sure my adamant character loyalty has some thing to do with it. I'm not going to change my anchor just on the off chance the randomer of the day uses Wesker. I've been playing Phoenix Wright since launch and X-23 for almost as long and i'll be damned if i'm ever going to stop. I don't have a solid third character I like yet though. I could keep with Vergil but he got boring, my Dante is either terrible or half decent depending on my mood and Morrigan doesn't have the best damage even when I can do her half fancy relaunch combo with two supers.

I guess my limit is that I don't believe in making the swaggiest team possible. I only care about how much I like the characters themselves, regardless of the fuck all synergy.

The funny thing is that I'm also going to stand by the statement of you whining about other players rather than looking for a solution. You want a solution to anchor Wesker? Well since you play X-23 and Dante activate Dirt Nap when he's coming in, call Dante (set on Jam Session), hit Wesker with unblockable and inescapable attack, OTG with whatever the hell X-23's move is that does that, pop X-Factor then go nuts. Easy peasy. Not worth bitching about. Not worth quitting over.

Oh and yes, the fact that BB has a sensible round ending system does help. It should be mandatory in every fighting game ever. It doesn't force you into this little 6 second window where the game literally pastes "YOU SUCK" on your screen. BB is just more fluid in general.

Sort of. While I agree that Capcom made some fucking atrocious design decisions in UMvC3 (why does the game save 3 times after every ranked match?) I can't agree that BB is a more fluid game and I've played a lot of BlazBlue. Funnily enough I actually dislike the UMvC3 post-match song and dance because it, in addition to aforementioned save issues, gives my opponents a phenomenally long window to pull the plug.

And hey if the guy is immature enough to taunt me, i'm mature enough to know that acting a little immature myself is perfectly fine occasionally :3

And you're still trying to justify quitting.

 

[Winji]

I rarely play online games in with either the skill or way that it would cause ragequits nor do I myself get fustrated over games that easily, but there is this one moment that I remember from Dark Souls (PC.)

I was playing with my friend in the Forest Hunter Covenant area. We had both betrayed them so that we could do some PvP together (We fought our opponents 1VS1 as long as the otherone didn't try to attack the one staying in the back) and we were doing pretty fine and having a great time.
Then suddenly a person in full Artorias armour invaded us, my friend had the turn to fight (He is the better one from us,) he gets backstab, but fails to kill the invader wich we think is rather odd considering that he only lost a very small portion of his health, but we let it slide. My friend dies of single backstab at witch point I attack the invader. I get curbstomped in a same manner as my friend. We both laugh it off just saying "Dear god what went bad."

My friend joins my game again and again this same person invades us, so we decide to fight together against him this time. Didn't help.
So in the end this happened several times in a row at wich one point we just had lost all enjoyement for that night and quit playing.
Later I ofcourse found out that he was a hacker and had all his stats were at 99 wich kinda explains why he could oneshot us and we only took a sliver of his health with backstabs.

Even that wasen't a proper ragequit rather than just losing the fun in playing the game...

 

[MPerce]

I usually don't rage-quit because I thoroughly enjoy super challenging games. The more it kicks my ass the more I enjoy my eventual triumph over it.

But I will rage like crazy at games that defines "challenging" as "intentionally breaking the game to make it harder for you." COD: World at War is a great example of this. On Veteren mode the baddies do nothing but throw grenades. A lot of grenades. Like, thirty grenades at at time in some instances. Not very much fun. One level had me yelling a number of unkind things at the TV for awhile before finally storming off.

The most recent one was Halo 4's Legendary difficulty. The Prometheans are pretty boring to fight in any situation, but give them a stupidly powerful shield that recharges if you stop shooting them for two seconds and they become an absolute chore. The last level of that game is severely lacking in checkpoints, and nearly every Promethean has an insta-kill weapon. Very boring, very cheap, lots of rage on my part.

 

[The Wykydtron]

Give me some credit please. I'm not going to randomly throw Phoenix Inferno at people. It's just got full invincibility on start up so it's REALLY good at punishing any random beam supers or what have you. Beam supers are just so good at chipping her to death. I'm not THAT bad.

Phoenix Wright WRECKS Dark Phoenix by the way.

"DARK PHOENIX R-"

"The one who actually committed the crime... IS YOU!"

Fucking funny

Content has been rearranged to make my reply make more sense. If you're beating someone who's got Dark Phoenix up and running with Turnabout mode Phoenix Wright, a character on the short list for worst character in the game, then I'm sorry but I'm going to have to stand by my statement of cringing at the quality of your opposition.

I'm pretty sure my adamant character loyalty has some thing to do with it. I'm not going to change my anchor just on the off chance the randomer of the day uses Wesker. I've been playing Phoenix Wright since launch and X-23 for almost as long and i'll be damned if i'm ever going to stop. I don't have a solid third character I like yet though. I could keep with Vergil but he got boring, my Dante is either terrible or half decent depending on my mood and Morrigan doesn't have the best damage even when I can do her half fancy relaunch combo with two supers.

I guess my limit is that I don't believe in making the swaggiest team possible. I only care about how much I like the characters themselves, regardless of the fuck all synergy.

The funny thing is that I'm also going to stand by the statement of you whining about other players rather than looking for a solution. You want a solution to anchor Wesker? Well since you play X-23 and Dante activate Dirt Nap when he's coming in, call Dante (set on Jam Session), hit Wesker with unblockable and inescapable attack, OTG with whatever the hell X-23's move is that does that, pop X-Factor then go nuts. Easy peasy. Not worth bitching about. Not worth quitting over.

Oh and yes, the fact that BB has a sensible round ending system does help. It should be mandatory in every fighting game ever. It doesn't force you into this little 6 second window where the game literally pastes "YOU SUCK" on your screen. BB is just more fluid in general.

Sort of. While I agree that Capcom made some fucking atrocious design decisions in UMvC3 (why does the game save 3 times after every ranked match?) I can't agree that BB is a more fluid game and I've played a lot of BlazBlue. Funnily enough I actually dislike the UMvC3 post-match song and dance because it, in addition to aforementioned save issues, gives my opponents a phenomenally long window to pull the plug.

And hey if the guy is immature enough to taunt me, i'm mature enough to know that acting a little immature myself is perfectly fine occasionally :3

And you're still trying to justify quitting.

And there you go judging me because I play PW. Fucking fantastic.

You know, everyone's general "lol trash" opinion of PW is pretty accurate of his character in his games. Nobody ever takes the random defense attorney seriously. Not until it's too late... He has SO MANY little unique, cool things about him.


You needs this. Nao.

Sure this guy is the best PW in the world. Epic.

As for Dark Phoenix... Dude. She's pressing buttons. That's damn suicide against Turnabout Wright. Not that anyone plays against him enough to know this.

Fun Fact: Ace Attorney is an omnidirectional, fullscreen, zero frame activation hyper that does over 1 million damage on its own with lvl 3 X-Factor. If i'm on the ground, she is screwed regardless how dark she is.

Fuck it, i ain't even gonna try to justify quitting for you. I'm bad at this game at the moment, sue me. My third character slot is still annoyingly open and really fucks me up.

 

[JagermanXcell]

I used to rage quit, then I realized I would never get better at games if I was powered by rage so I learned to stop. (Except for when I play UMVC3 online, damn that community and its Albert Weskers...)
But witnessing rage quits and being in their crosshairs... let me tell yah, that is fun.

-Dark Souls: I was invading low levels in Anor Londo as a Dante cosplay character. Of course I had to stay in character, so I gestured a not so nice gesture after every target I destroyed. (what can I say, game is centered around griefing and trolling people, I was in the mood for some fun hate mail anyways :3 ) It seemed Dark Souls psn net code was in the mood to let me invade this one poor soul over and over again. Eventually after the 6th win, (no really... 6 invasions on the same player, guy seriously could not stay offline), he disconnected, sent me some pretty vulgar messages, 12 messages in fact.

I replied with one message: "Jackpot!" Then I proceeded to block him to avoid my messages from filling up. Praise the Sun.

-Red Dead Redemption: Me and my cousin were playing our usual red dead online free roam, talkin to other players, killing horses, and other shenanigans. Some one activated Land Grab in our vicinity and instead of playing to win we just acted like idiots, it was sensible at the time. Then this one guy over the mic went off on us (He was mad bro) about how we were camping, noobz, calling homosexuals, you know the usual. Of course we didn't care, we were to busy talking about how sweet it would be if Red Dead had jetpacks. But man this guy really wanted to get our attention, for a good 10 minutes he was insulting us. Eventually other players caught on and told him off for taking the game too seriously, eventually he left the game. Our entire lobby laughed at his stupidity, some of the other players even told us about how they spammed him with hate mail. Teehee

The old west sure is full of crazies.

Snippity snippity snip.

Sorry, but there is nothing more SWAG than Hakumen's Astral. It's like the ultimate putdown bitchslap for being a total fucking idiot.


OT: Yeah, no, I don't really ragequit. over 2000 games of LoL has somewhat conditioned my mind to the point where I can put up with most.

Except for Teemo. Fuck that shit.

Oh you want SWAG!? You want SWAG?!


Nobody outswags Makoto. Nobody.

Yu Narukami would like a word.


[sub][sub][sub]Makoto my ass... ¬_¬[/sub][/sub][/sub]

FAWK?! WHEN THE HELL DID THE ENGLISH DUB FOR THE PERSONA 4 ANIME COME OUT?! WHY WAS I NOT TOLD?!

BRB going on an anime marathon.

[sub][sub]As a reward for revealing this fact to me, I will not press charges against you for attempting to outswag Makoto.[/sub][/sub]

OT: Ah yes, Yu Narukami. AKA Persona 4's Pro"SWAG"onist.

 

[Username Redacted]

And there you go judging me because I play PW. Fucking fantastic.

You know, everyone's general "lol trash" opinion of PW is pretty accurate of his character in his games. Nobody ever takes the random defense attorney seriously. Not until it's too late... He has SO MANY little unique, cool things about him.

Actually I was judging the quality of people you where playing. Also you're going fanboy in defense of the character. He really isn't especially good in this game. Other characters can do more than him for less ________ (effort, meter, whatever). At least once Frank West is leveled he stays leveled and has, for example, actual mix-ups. Phoenix Wright does not. Hell, if she's really worried about Ace Attorney all she needs to do is nothing. Wait out Turnabout mode and the match goes from essentially over to actually over. She can also go for stuff that has less than 10 frames of start-up and recovery (which if she's Dark is a lot of stuff; even more if she's also running on the X-Factor) as Ace Attorney isn't technically zero frames it's 10 + 0 which means that there are 10 frames of start-up before the super flash and then 0 afterwards. I'm not saying it's unwinnable but I wouldn't count on catching a good Phoenix player with it more than once.

Fuck it, i ain't even gonna try to justify quitting for you.

I'm glad you realize that there aren't any legitimate justifications for ragequitting.