Rant where does the human race end ?

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JemJar

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I am very optimistic about the fate of the human race.

About the basic intrinsic kindness of a human being, even those devoid of religious doctrine or an enforced moral code.

About those who'll pick up hitch-hikers just to help them out, those who'll give money to charity to help people thousands of miles away, those who encourage their leaders to protect the rights of totally different ethnic / religious / social groups just because it feels right to do so.

About the push for technologies to enhance the quality of life of millions, to cure disease, to further human knowledge, even just to lengthen the life of a much loved family pet.

I think it says great things that the news report on so many bad things, so many stories of brutal attacks and terrible crimes. Because it shows that these things are noteworthy, that they are the rare minority.

Tomorrow perhaps the newspapers will report a pensioner beaten up or something like that. They will not report the dozens / hundreds / thousands of pensioners helped across roads or to carry baggage around stations or with their shopping. They will not report the people who check on their elderly neighbours and help them with food. They wont report on the doctors who go the extra mile above and beyond what they are required to do just to get the job done and save someone's life, at least for a little while.

Go out there and smile. Do something nice for someone. The world is a great place.
 

Skeleon

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I believe that, if we managa feasible space travel before we destroy ourselves, humanity will survive pretty much indefinitely.
So, either we die out within the next few thousand years or there is not going to be an end to the human race.
I hope and believe the latter.
 

Rolling Thunder

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Glefistus said:
All the money being wasted? Paper money is fiction. It has no worth. Buy gold.
Gold is just as valueless. The only value placed on gold is that of it's aesthetic, and the sunjective value dreamt up in our collective mindset of 'Mmmm...prettty'. It has little utility, in itself. Sir, your argument is a poor one.
 

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Rolling Thunder said:
Glefistus said:
All the money being wasted? Paper money is fiction. It has no worth. Buy gold.
Gold is just as valueless. The only value placed on gold is that of it's aesthetic, and the sunjective value dreamt up in our collective mindset of 'Mmmm...prettty'. It has little utility, in itself. Sir, your argument is a poor one.
True, we should all spend our money on conserved food, it will last forever!
 

Quel0

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not really sure how important it is to discuss this since usually whatever will end us will probably be out of our control and mostly unpredictable. But sure, we'll make food synths and whatnot and live in communism
 

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murlo360 said:
There are many things in this world unknown to me. like why genocides happen the pure amount of money being wasting in the white house our dwindling resources the soon threat of mass ,death, disease, world war,pollution, were do we reach the end of our journey. is our trillion year line of prosperous living about to be cut short by the visceral grip we have put on the earth with our primal way of life.

tell me this does the human race have a future?
Everything has a future, it's just whether or not it's a good one.

I think the answer to that question is money; people who have lots of money like having lots of money, and helping fix problems like those mentioned above would cause them to not have so much money anymore.
 

Harbinger_

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Does the human race have a future? If the collective intelligence is anything to go by we should have been annihilated years ago.
 

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HardRockSamurai said:
Does the human race have a future?

Of course not. However, our alien overlords certainly do have a future here!
[small]...and I for one, would like to welcome our new masters...[/small]
"I was thinking, and I decided that I might be willing to become a housepet for a race of super-intelligent aliens. The learning possibilities are endless, plus, I like to have my belly scratched"

Word.
 
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HardRockSamurai said:
Does the human race have a future?

Of course not. However, our alien overlords certainly do have a future here!
[small]...and I for one, would like to welcome our new masters...[/small]
You jackal! You snake! You <imput appropriate animal counterpart from the "dying like animals" page of TV tropes here> ! La Resistance shall never give up, NEVEEEER!!!

On the "why does humanity suck" subject... I don't actually know. You'd think we'd have worked out that killing, stealing from, and just generally screwing with our fellow human beings just because they happen to follow a different religion, are across a different border, or happen to believe in a different method of governance is generally a bad idea. I blame world leaders... and Adrian of course. Criminals and bigots don't help, and human society in general tends to be incredibly reluctant to actually get off its tail and do something about sufferings a long way off from them. Humans generally only care about problems in society if it affects them.

PS: Thank you HardRockSamurai for teaching me how to use the small text function.

PPS: Sorry, I'll rephrase that [small]Thank you HardRockSamurai for teaching me how to use the small text function[/small]

I just realised that that thank you could have been taken as being sarcastic. I'm serious, I really didn't know how to use the small text function till I quoted you and spotted the BB code for it! [small]sorry about any misunderstanding...[/small]
 

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Mad Maniac with axe-firing chainsaw said:
HardRockSamurai said:
Does the human race have a future?

Of course not. However, our alien overlords certainly do have a future here!
[small]...and I for one, would like to welcome our new masters...[/small]
You jackal! You snake! You <imput appropriate animal counterpart from the "dying like animals" page of TV tropes here> ! La Resistance shall never give up, NEVEEEER!!!

PS: Thank you HardRockSamurai for teaching me how to use the small text function.
[small]you're welcome[/small]
 

Vianyte

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Humanity will probably survive until the end of the universe. If you look at the rate we are going with technological advances and population increase and ignore the silly doomsday theories, 2012 etc, this seems very likely.

Or we could be wiped out by a bunch of mean aliens to clear the way for a hyperspace expressway...
 

El Poncho

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Mass disease. It might not kill us off but human population numbers need to be controlled. Also the sun is exploding in a something million billion years or something so there will definetly be an end and thats our safest bet but something might happen before, since it's happend many times before.
 

Rolling Thunder

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Glefistus said:
Rolling Thunder said:
Glefistus said:
All the money being wasted? Paper money is fiction. It has no worth. Buy gold.
Gold is just as valueless. The only value placed on gold is that of it's aesthetic, and the sunjective value dreamt up in our collective mindset of 'Mmmm...prettty'. It has little utility, in itself. Sir, your argument is a poor one.
Historically gold has always been the ultimate currency. It actually has worth, people desire it for it's beauty, relative rareness, and manufacturers desire it for it's electrochemical properties. Paper money, however, is artificial, its value imposed by the treasury.
The same can be said of diamonds, however, the price of diamonds varies widely. Gold does not. The conclusion: As I said before, the 'value' of gold is the same artifical value, only instead of one imposed by the state, it is imposed by society. Plus, paper money is far, far more practical. Imagine trying to conduct business with exchanges of gold.

"I wish to purchase your house, sir"

"Very well, ma'am, I will require you to deliver 2.3 tonnes of gold to my account by tommorow morning."
 

Nickolai77

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I see the risk of severe setbacks occurring due to humanities more evil inclinations- war, global warming, religious nut jobs, they could all kill hunderds of millions, maybe billions of people.

However, i do not see humanity being totally wiped out, like most people here seem to believe.

Looking at the worst case scenario, global warming and religious fundementalism leading to WW3, which ends in nuclear warfare, the collapse of human civilization as we know it today, and the resultant mass starvation of the survivors.

I still however think that some people, somewhere, will still survive. For instance-

The natives deep the amazon jungles, untouched by civilisation.

People's who live in remote places like the Himalayas or Mongolia, who are more or less self-sufficent as farmers

Lucky people such as perhaps ex-soldiers who deserted the army when civilisation collapsed- and have necessary survival skills. Or perhaps ragged bands of civilians from "quiet" places across the globe that are unlikely to be targeted by nuclear missiles, for instance North England, parts of Mid-West America, Romania, Canada, Southern Italy etc. Civilians could survive by banding together as roaming nomads, finding food in abandoned super markets, slaughtering stray farm animals, or finding food from the natural environment. (berry's, nettle soup, mushrooms, fish from rivers etc)



There are a LOT of humans out there- 6 billion i believe, and rising. These humans can be found across all areas of the globe, and we are also intelligent and adaptable creatures.
 

Therumancer

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I for one get tired of hearing this rant every time some ultra left wing liberal hars it and decides to spread it around.

The bottom line is this: Humanity is doing just fine as far as such things go.

One of our biggest problems is arguably the fact that we have yet to unify our species under one global culture. This is arguably the biggest problem from which all other problems derive. As things stand now, while a lot will be solved by the simple spread of ideas, in the end one of the problems with seperate civilzations on the planet is that not everyone is going to want to give up (even gradually) their own seperate identity and "special" way of looking at things, especially when you consider that many of those civilizations (like China or The Middle East) define themselves as being the culture the world is intended to be united under.

Various science fiction concepts showing a divided earth going off into space and doing something (like say the latter years of Stargate) are a joke because simply put to do anything beyond earth, even if it's just gathering more resources and living space, would require the efficient usage of the materials we have here, as well as being able to focus all of our intelletec and research towards solving the problems we face. As things now the human meta-intellect is wasted because as soon as someone develops something, the nature of rival civilizations is such that 90% of the big heads around the globe spend all their time trying to figure out how they did it so "that other civilization won't get ahead" rather than working on anything new.

Not to mention the complete chaos involved in say setting up colonies and resource gathering centers for specific nations on earth rather than earth itself. The last thing we need to do is waste time and effort in a fundementally hostile enviroment bickering and fighting over who gets to mine the tin deposits out of an astroid.

Thus, to some extent I see "social darwinism" as a positive thing. That is to say genocide, at least in an ideaological sense. Ironically I'd like to see my own civilization (America) dominate due to the fact that I think our ideals have the best chance of holding humanity together in the final equasion, and would involve the least amount of bloodshed in the extreme long term. But in the end our morality and unwillingness to do what is nessicary to truely dominate is what also makes us unlikely to ever succeed.

Generally speaking if someone, anyway, was able to effectively take over the world even at the expense of 99.9% of the population, it would be a positive thing if they were able to keep it unified. People WILL repopulate unless we reduce the numbers to zero (.1% of the population is still many, many thousands of people).

To an extent I think humanity's biggest failing is it's inabillity to be like other species and more or less get it's house in line. All of the various "failures" of humanity are mostly along the lines of simply not taking those so called "failures" far enough to get anything done.

See, I'm one of those dudes who might become an "insane" bad guy like in a comic book or video game given the oppertunity. Being the most hated and reviled man to ever exist might be worth it if you could get humanity out of this rut and save it forever more. Preventing the possible fate that we won't ever destroy ourselves outright (due to our survival instincts) but we might very well deplete all of the resources competing with each other and wind up unable to expand off this planet to get more while in billions of years our sun dies and kills us all anyway.

I guess to some extent like Ozymandias in Watchmen (though there are better examples in fiction, he was hardly a unique concept)though without any desire to rule the world even indirectly.

As I said though, things are going well. We shall see what happens. Who knows, maybe a miracle will happen and everyone will band together over time anyway. In the meantime we can always hope that we will eventually see the arrival of the man we need.