Raping Female Characters Is Not Sexist
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Well not in gaming but certainly in films. You get the same plot devices in both forms of media so what's overdone in one isn't going to be new and original in the other.Matthew94 said:
Yeah I'm hardly going to lose sleep over it but just because everyone else is lazy too doesn't mean I can't call one game out for it.veloper said:
why can't i see into the future like so many others can? D:
And why this sudden "attachment" to the original lara's "character". Isn't this the same woman who was disliked for having unrealistic proportions and generally looking like a living doll? This same character who's games have generally been met with ho-hum responces and has limped along this last generation?
I wasn't even aware tomb raider really HAD a story, it was THAT transparant.
And why this sudden "attachment" to the original lara's "character". Isn't this the same woman who was disliked for having unrealistic proportions and generally looking like a living doll? This same character who's games have generally been met with ho-hum responces and has limped along this last generation?
I wasn't even aware tomb raider really HAD a story, it was THAT transparant.
Even if it's not sexist (men can be raped too, remember), it's still wrong. And lazy storytelling.
Stir up controversy? They've already shown the "rape" at E3 scene and nobody copped it until the word was specifically said.idarkphoenixi said:
http://www.gamesradar.com/controversial-tomb-raider-rape-scene-youve-already-seen-it/
This "rape scene" nonsense is just more sensationalist bullshit that's being spouted in order for people to get their panties in a bunch.
There is absolutely no point to putting something this in a game unless it is the defining moment of a character. I hope we're not seriously trying to say that Lara Croft is the way she is, a strong female character, because she once got raped. That's retarded.
I do find it funny though that the game still looks less interesting than the 2007 "Uncharted" which it clearly wants to be.
I do find it funny though that the game still looks less interesting than the 2007 "Uncharted" which it clearly wants to be.
Er... sorry about that. Maybe I should have been clearer. I mean, it's easy to say a character was raped, but it's difficult to do it well. Or something, I should really think before I write things...Matthew94 said:
No, it's a defining moment for her character because that attempted rape leads to her killing another human being for the first time. Something that you'd know if you looked up any information at all regarding it.Pompey71 said:
That second part isn't a stab at you, more a stab at people in general because all of the people decrying the game are doing so simply because they heard the word "rape" while having no information at all regarding the context of that point in the story.
It may turn out that in this instance it is handled well, but, call me a cynic, i see this as not flowing well in a game. You have a cut scene in which you can't react to it (Which could mirror the trauma... but again I doubt it.) Or as has been said you could have a tasteless QTE.
not to make light of the original subject matter but don't both portrayals of the event fall into the traps of things that interrupt gameplay? If you wanted to deal with a subject like rape the actions/shooter/platformer drama seems like an odd place to do it. I'm having trouble imaging how you would transition into and out of this scene and go back to having fun running around in temples.
So while depicting rape isn't inherently sexist, and this instance may not be sexist or lazy writing or any of the other charges leveled against it... I'm just not sure it is going to work well.
I could be wrong and the whole thing could be brilliantly done and be a powerful scene that changes the way we think about rape/gaming/the character... but
not to make light of the original subject matter but don't both portrayals of the event fall into the traps of things that interrupt gameplay? If you wanted to deal with a subject like rape the actions/shooter/platformer drama seems like an odd place to do it. I'm having trouble imaging how you would transition into and out of this scene and go back to having fun running around in temples.
So while depicting rape isn't inherently sexist, and this instance may not be sexist or lazy writing or any of the other charges leveled against it... I'm just not sure it is going to work well.
I could be wrong and the whole thing could be brilliantly done and be a powerful scene that changes the way we think about rape/gaming/the character... but
... (mobile phones make longer posts really difficult)
But I'm not going to hold my breath or spend my limited cash to find out for myself. If in the end it is done well, when the game comes out feel free to message me and tell me how wrong I was. But since i don't have unlimited funds I have to make a choice on what I know.
But I'm not going to hold my breath or spend my limited cash to find out for myself. If in the end it is done well, when the game comes out feel free to message me and tell me how wrong I was. But since i don't have unlimited funds I have to make a choice on what I know.
Uriel what about your last thread with the same title [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.378747-Raping-Female-Characters-Is-Not-Sexist#14820597]? Well anyway, my thoughts are there.
Judging by the date on the two posts, it looks like a garden variety accidental double post to me.Lovely Mixture said:
^ Second that.idarkphoenixi said:
As a story elemnt, it can easily define a character & actually impact the player of the game, but putting in the trailer sounds fishy.