'Real' Space marines

[The Wooster]

It's because people who make video games use words that sound cool.

Another example is that, according to most WW2 games, the American army consisted entirely of 'Rangers' who won every battle single handedly.

F.E.A.R is pretty bad too. First Encounter Assault Recon? I was under the impression assault and reconnaissance were entirely opposite concepts.

 

[SwampCandle]

IMO, the only true Space Marines are the Astartes & they are beyond awesome.

All the others are just Space Cadets.

Excellently put sir!
Have a gold star.

 

[DesertHawk]

F.E.A.R is pretty bad too. First Encounter Assault Recon? I was under the impression assault and reconnaissance were entirely opposite concepts.

Unfortunately, in the case of F.E.A.R., that's what happens when you start with the letters of an acronym first before you know what the hell they are going to stand for. But, like you said. FEAR sounded cool (I suppose...) , so they made junk up to go with it.

 

[Dramatic Flare]

THAT WOULD BE EPIC. I SO WANT THAT GAME. Quick, someone get EA to contact Orson Scott Card.

No no nono. No.
Last time Orson Scott Card was involved in writing video games, We were given Advent Rising.

On the other hand, Ender's Game type gameplay would be epic, but I think we should get some other smaller studio to do a more original idea based on man space combat.

 

[Souplex]

See this is another way that Metroid Prime 3: Corruption is the greatest game ever. It has space marines but they are a bunch of expendable redshirts.

And the idea of them being marines is that they work with a fleet of Spaceships which are like the navy of space. This is reinforced by there being space Admirals and such.

 

[L.B. Jeffries]

THAT WOULD BE EPIC. I SO WANT THAT GAME. Quick, someone get EA to contact Orson Scott Card.

No no nono. No.
Last time Orson Scott Card was involved in writing video games, We were given Advent Rising.

On the other hand, Ender's Game type gameplay would be epic, but I think we should get some other smaller studio to do a more original idea based on man space combat.

Or Monkey Island, which he helped write. Also, that's not any quote from me.

 

[Dramatic Flare]

THAT WOULD BE EPIC. I SO WANT THAT GAME. Quick, someone get EA to contact Orson Scott Card.

No no nono. No.
Last time Orson Scott Card was involved in writing video games, We were given Advent Rising.

On the other hand, Ender's Game type gameplay would be epic, but I think we should get some other smaller studio to do a more original idea based on man space combat.

Or Monkey Island, which he helped write. Also, that's not any quote from me.

Yeah, I thought it was wrong. that was a guy you were responding too. I misquoted and mis edited.

But I'm confused, because wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_Island_(series)] disagrees with you.

 

[L.B. Jeffries]

THAT WOULD BE EPIC. I SO WANT THAT GAME. Quick, someone get EA to contact Orson Scott Card.

No no nono. No.
Last time Orson Scott Card was involved in writing video games, We were given Advent Rising.

On the other hand, Ender's Game type gameplay would be epic, but I think we should get some other smaller studio to do a more original idea based on man space combat.

Or Monkey Island, which he helped write. Also, that's not any quote from me.

Yeah, I thought it was wrong. that was a guy you were responding too. I misquoted and mis edited.

But I'm confused, because wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_Island_(series)] disagrees with you.

Check the entry for part 1. He designed and wrote the Insult Swordfighting portion of the game. Which is arguably the most brilliant aspect.

 

[Dramatic Flare]

THAT WOULD BE EPIC. I SO WANT THAT GAME. Quick, someone get EA to contact Orson Scott Card.

No no nono. No.
Last time Orson Scott Card was involved in writing video games, We were given Advent Rising.

On the other hand, Ender's Game type gameplay would be epic, but I think we should get some other smaller studio to do a more original idea based on man space combat.

Or Monkey Island, which he helped write. Also, that's not any quote from me.

Yeah, I thought it was wrong. that was a guy you were responding too. I misquoted and mis edited.

But I'm confused, because wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_Island_(series)] disagrees with you.

Check the entry for part 1. He designed and wrote the Insult Swordfighting portion of the game. Which is arguably the most brilliant aspect.

Okay, I stand corrected twice. This is really a bad thread for me it seems.
Still, Advent Rising is a lot more recent, and he wrote the entire story for that game and not one portion of it. I have to be honest and say that Advent Rising has a really bad, if interesting, storyline.

wait, this site uses bbc? SWEET!

 

[Jhereg42]

The book Armor by John Steakley. Likely the best characterization of the "space marine" I've seen other than the book Starship Troopers already mentioned here.

Not the movie, that was just "Melrose Space".

 

[OverlordSteve]

40k Space Marines are epic though

"Purge them in the name of the EMPORER!"
"I will purge the unclean"
"GREENSKINS!" (I laugh and wonder how did relic gets away with that blatant racial remark)

Agreed.

 

[AwesomeHat]

Space Marines as someone like myself who does actually have 3 space marine armies (Blood Angels, Iron Hands and one of my own chapters), seeing all of these new 'space marines' is nothing short of sackralidge (spelt right?)

"sacrilege".

In relation to the thread - frankly I couldn't give a damn who I play as providing the game is fun, but the 20-40 year old mixed background US marine does seem to be cropping up more and more nowadays.

 

[RufusMcLaser]

The book Armor by John Steakley. Likely the best characterization of the "space marine" I've seen other than the book Starship Troopers already mentioned here.

Not the movie, that was just "Melrose Space".

I agree with everything you said. I'm not sure it's the best "armored soldier" book out there, but it's towards the top.
Nothing beats Heinlein, though. Not even Haldeman.

 

[Jhereg42]

The book Armor by John Steakley. Likely the best characterization of the "space marine" I've seen other than the book Starship Troopers already mentioned here.

I agree with everything you said. I'm not sure it's the best "armored soldier" book out there, but it's towards the top.
Nothing beats Heinlein, though. Not even Haldeman.

I may have been a bit biased. I was a psych major in college, and I always found Steakley's psychological treatment of combat and the echoes of PTSD that those experiencing the 'combat mind' of the marine in the book to be fantastic. At the time I read it, it was a very unique companion piece to Starship Troopers and I treated it as such.

 

[ThePlasmatizer]

Space Marines are the most overused character archetype in videogames, if he's not a normal marine or badass soldier the protagonist will almost always be a tough talking space marine.

 

[Cheesus333]

take a nuke to the gut and pull it out with his teeth

Any guy who can remove anything from his gut with his teeth is awesome in my book.

 

[AceDiamond]

Space Marines are the most overused character archetype in videogames, if he's not a normal marine or badass soldier the protagonist will almost always be a tough talking space marine.

And if he's not any of those he'll be horribly underdeveloped as a character

 

[ace_of_something]

is nothing short of sackralidge (spelt right?)

not even close.

I hate the 40K Space Marines - I used to play Dark Eldar and Witch Hunters and found them to be broken (especially the space wolves) granted that was 10 years ago, maybe the balance issues have been fixed.

The 'space marine' that people loath is the nearly invincible character that has no back-story and no personality. Or if they do it feels contrived and fakey. Every other character in the game instantly respects for being the messiah with a gun. I?m sure I will be flamed and given specific examples of how these characters have personality but I sure don?t remember any? examples are Master Chief of Marcus Fenix

 

[Saskwach]

Put me in the "Space Marines are 7 foot tall bio-engineered killing machines who wield grenade launchers as primary weapons and kick down walls," *gasp for breath* crowd. They have a second heart and a third lung. They spit acid. They can survive in vacuum (I believe). They go to war wearing a strength- and skill-enhancing suit of armour inches thick. Each can live for centuries - centuries spent only in the fine art of killing, and the honing of that art.
Anything else is a cheap substitute.

 

[McNinja]

Its actually more like and RPG, kinda like the gyrojet rocket bullet gun. but in .75 caliber. Most actually dont spit acid (anymore, some of the traitors can, because they haven't died). And, may i point out, the armor they wear is capable of withstanding a tank round, and the bigger (terminator armor) suits can take being stepped on by a 500 foot tall mech and a giant laser beam to the chest. Their weapons are vastly superior to anything we currently have (mostly because they're bigger- heavy bolter is essentially a M249 SAW that fires 1.00 caliber rounds that explode a nanosecond after impact).

The Adeptus Astartes are the only true Space Marines.