Really GOOD rappers.

[Gloomsta]

Good...Rap? Huh?

Really though, aside from the standard trolling involved here, I've never really gotten the appeal. The only thing that ever makes rap "good", is impressive writing, and that hardly needs to be limited to any form of music to be considered good. I find that having some dude sing what may be some impressive literature just ruins it by being annoying.

Same here. Why is simply fast talking likeintheadvertisementswhentheyhavetoreadoutthesmallprintbutdontwantto more popular than actual singing?

Why should singing be more popular?

What makes singing so much more superior to rapping?

 

[TheRightToArmBears]

More leaning to hip hop, but Atmosphere is brilliant.

Spoiler

And people say rap has no emotion.

 

[Nouw]

Where's BonsaiK. We require your musical knowledge

There's the fact that it actually involves some talent

You have some good points but rapping does involve talent. Not everyone can pick up the mic and start rapping a song which a million people will dance to. Try rap any song and put the same enthusiasm and soul some of the rappers here put into. Now I agree, many mainstream artists aren't good at rapping and that just proves that it does require skill. You can't really compare singing and rapping and call one superior.

 

[bigwon]

hmmmm.... Not quite sure if I'd quite fit the bill for you, but I'm always looking to put my stuff on the chopping block.

http://soundcloud.com/rnwhiphop

 

[bigwon]

[/quote]There's the fact that it actually involves some talent, it sounds much better (Where do you think the saying "Music to my ears" came from?), it is a better representation of the effort people put into composing (If the same amount of effort is put into a #1 song the same effort put into a rap song would only go to #5), it allows for a much wider variety of styles (Opera, rock, punk, goth, metal, blues...)... I could go on for hours[/quote]

hehe....gotta admit though it does sounds like shit when it isn't done properly..;D

apples (percussive) and oranges (melodic) though, it's all preference at the end of the day. There's just certain qualities to singing that you can't fully realise with rapping, and vice versa.

I mean I'm personally more into funk, blues, jazz, and the like but what's to say that rapping doesn't have it's place in music?

not an argument really, just a couple cents.

 

[Crazy Elf]

Seriously, no one has mentioned Jurassic Five? They're the most talented rap vocalists on the planet. Take this song, Jurass Finish First:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QmnEEteDig

Listen to that first verse sung by Charli 2na. I'll post the lyrics here:

Yo, because of cash in the purse, guns blast in the hearse
A vast universe when the last is the first
The past been a curse, I need some asprin to nurse
It's your casket in earth, or my ass when it hurts
A passionate burst of some last-minute work
First the human bodies are living last in this Earth
Puffing grass when it works, a bastard at birth
But at last planet Earth, 5 Jurass finish first

Lyrically it's nothing exceptional, but the form is spectacular. I'll point out the alliteration for you.

Yo, because of cash in the purse, guns blast in the hearse
A vast universe when the last is the first
The past been a curse, I need some asprin to nurse
It's your casket in earth, or my ass when it hurts
A passionate burst of some last-minute work
First the human bodies are living last in this Earth
Puffing grass when it works, a bastard at birth
But at last planet Earth, 5 Jurass finish first

For almost every line they've managed to keep the beat, vocally, using æs (phonetically "ass") and ɜr (phonetically "ur") over and over again. It's impressive vocally, and it's impressive in terms of writing.

They may not be saying much, but they're saying it well. Better than anyone else out there, hands down.

 

[Gloomsta]

There's the fact that it actually involves some talent,

What is talent?

Please dont tell me rap doesnt involve talent, because id like to see you try and rap fast, with rhymes in a rythm, and then you have to sound convincing for it too work.

it sounds much better (Where do you think the saying "Music to my ears" came from?)

Ever heard of SUBJECTIVITY?

, it is a better representation of the effort people put into composing

So if i used a guitar instead of piano that would mean there is more effort put into composing?

Is "effort into composing" even a valid form of measuring quality? Is that even a proper way of saying it?

(If the same amount of effort is put into a #1 song the same effort put into a rap song would only go to #5)

Wat?

, it allows for a much wider variety of styles (Opera, rock, punk, goth, metal, blues...)...

Is this even an argument? If someone wanted singing, rapping and metal screams/growling could be incorporated into any genre if they wanted too.

How does being able to use an instrument in a wide genres account for talent or quality?

I could go on for hours

I can talk bullshit for hours, just saying.

 

[ApophisMP]

Good Rap that's laughable

 

[similar.squirrel]

Buck 65. One of the best musicians alive, if you ask me. None of that 'I grew up in a neighborhood that was more impoverished than the neighborhood you grew up in, ************' nonsense, either. Just pure poetry. I'm genuinely surprised that I'm the first to mention him.

Spoiler: Listen to these. Now.

Edit: Scroob is a really nice guy. And doesn't afraid of anything. Met him last summer, and he was very polite.

 

[The Rascal King]

Guru of Gang Starr was an awesome, awesome dude. He died last year of heart problems. Sadness.

 

[Patrick Buck]

Good Rappers? I don't understand....
Eh, i've never really liked rap. I understand that other people might, but it's never really appealed to me. God I feel old. But i'm not. Godsake.

 

[Deathmageddon]

I don't believe in the idea of a "good" rapper. That being said, I enjoy Dan Bull's Epic Skyrim Rap on YouTube.

 

[Colter Stradinger]

Eazy-E
Wu-Tang Clan
Aesop Rock
Evil 9

 

[TomSeyborg]

If you are looking for good rappers, I would point you towards

Watsky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E80NbUvl5RA

and Hoodie Allen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNkI6IEsssc

 

[AnarchistFish]

As far as actual rappers go, Del The Funky Homosapien is my favourite.

MIA is the only female rapper I've ever heard that I like


And of course

There's the fact that it actually involves some talent,

Rapping doesn't? Many people sound ridiculous when they try to rap cos they can't get the precise punch and rhythm.
And if you listen to many rappers, especially the best ones, there are subtly inserted melodies and variances in their vocal intonations.
If anything, it's harder to rap because it's something you have to nurture much more than singing. I'd like to see the average person match that rapping.

it sounds much better (Where do you think the saying "Music to my ears" came from?),

lol

it is a better representation of the effort people put into composing (If the same amount of effort is put into a #1 song the same effort put into a rap song would only go to #5),

Really? Forgetting that this is irrelevant anyway, melodies are relatively easy to write since there's already the 13 tone base to form them from and in the case of #1 songs, it's just finding a hook and then putting in a simple, thrown together beat underneath. Unique rapping has to find unique and inventive rhythms and all the vocal flicks. And then there's all the production behind it, which needs just as much attention.

it allows for a much wider variety of styles (Opera, rock, punk, goth, metal, blues...)... I could go on for hours

Rapping has been used in hip hop, electronic music, grime, rock, metal, r&b, etc, Either way, it's irrelevant. You might as well say that heavy use of effects pedals is a shitty part of music because it's only used extensively in shoegaze. As far as blues and opera go (which is the only genre you listed which doesn't have rapping), they came before rapping became prominent. If anything, rap is still in its infant stages and it's only a matter of time until it spreads and people find new ways to use it.

 

[Rawne1980]

Really?

A year old dead thread about rap is the best thing you could think of to necro?

For shame.

 

[repeating integers]

Really?

A year old dead thread about rap is the best thing you could think of to necro?

For shame.

Well, maybe you could take the opportunity to respond to the posts talking to you that you ignored last time

OT: CrunkParty has been getting me into Cloud Rap recently.

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Try these for size.

 

[Rawne1980]

Well, maybe you could take the opportunity to respond to the posts talking to you that you ignored last time

OT: CrunkParty has been getting me into Cloud Rap recently.

What posts were talking to me?

This isn't my thread....

If I had a choice of listening to rap or listening to The Carpenters while having my testicles whumped with a meat tenderiser i'd be telling my wife we won't be having any more kids.

 

[flarty]

Ok discovered Scroobius Pip recently and really liked that, and iv been into Rugged Man for a while, but aside from that I havent really found any rappers that amazingly original lyrically. So do you know any, and dont point out obvious ones like Eminem etc. (iv heard of him ).

(oh and this, listen to this if you like good rap)

Met the pip in person at a tiny gig in a student bar about 4 years ago, lovely chap. But if you want good rap depending on the type of content you want to listen to try lowkey, akala, logic and mic righteous.

 

[repeating integers]

Well, maybe you could take the opportunity to respond to the posts talking to you that you ignored last time

OT: CrunkParty has been getting me into Cloud Rap recently.

What posts were talking to me?

This isn't my thread....

They were on Page 2 or something. Apparently you saw the need to post on this thread despite not having any reason to have a vested interest in it.