Then look no further, It was so painful to watch just look at my avatar the other guy is any elfin lied fan.TeeBs said:My god I love anyone who will openly bash Elfin Lied, its a good thing.
Neon Genesis Evangelion is usually up there as far as mature anime goes
Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo and Ergo Proxy are also worth checking out
I absolutely love that show, but I'm not sure it's what the OP is looking for. There's no fanservice or catgirls or anything of the sort, but it gets a little melodramatic, especially in the second season.SkoopMaster said:Bam
I'm sorry I just couldn't help my self
But really a friend of mine has been pestering me to check out Maria watches over us (Maria-sama ga Miteru)
I have not seen it yet but my friend is more inclined to the mature sophisticated type of thing, which I find extremely hilarious because he was expecting a somewhat perverted show about lesbians (and the fact that he was somewhat hoping for that to get some shits and giggles).
BUT NO! What he got was something completely different and he was pleasantly surprised in fact he told me he didn't wanna watch anymore anime after that because nothing would compare.
and that's saying a lot coming from such a close minded guy who shuts out anything that doesn't go his way.
Well, shit I guess I got nothing then well except for Claymore maybe...mireko said:I absolutely love that show, but I'm not sure it's what the OP is looking for. There's no fanservice or catgirls or anything of the sort, but it gets a little melodramatic, especially in the second season.SkoopMaster said:Bam
I'm sorry I just couldn't help my self
But really a friend of mine has been pestering me to check out Maria watches over us (Maria-sama ga Miteru)
I have not seen it yet but my friend is more inclined to the mature sophisticated type of thing, which I find extremely hilarious because he was expecting a somewhat perverted show about lesbians (and the fact that he was somewhat hoping for that to get some shits and giggles).
BUT NO! What he got was something completely different and he was pleasantly surprised in fact he told me he didn't wanna watch anymore anime after that because nothing would compare.
and that's saying a lot coming from such a close minded guy who shuts out anything that doesn't go his way.
Any other criticisms are annulled by the presence of Satou Sei, though.
I also recommend Ghost In the Shell, there is so fanserivce or real silliness outside of a group of support characters. It really conveys the sense of a real world! I do recommend you watch the dub, its amazing!Asimus said:Ghost in the shell is also nice
http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=61
There is a difference between making a character sexy, and sticking in cheesecake fan service shots (like that Motoko one I showed earlier) in totally inappropriate moments. It undermines the seriousness of the scene. In that GITS scene in question, Motoko was trying to prevent a boy from murdering his parents. The sobriety of the situation is not improved in any way by having Motoko bending over and squashing her ass into the camera. The equivalent would be to focus a camera on Magna Goebbel's cleavage whilst she poisons her own kids in Downfall.FortyPercent said:See, here's the thing - you seem to think that a work showing it's fans something they may find sexually enticing is apparently an inherently bad thing. Why is that? If you consider it an insult to your intelligence, since it's apparently there to keep people hooked, then you're taking it way too personally.maninahat said:So a lot of writers have a low opinion of their audience if they think they have to keep them hooked to a story with sexy money shots. Having a sexy character in itself isn't a problem. Ghost in the Shell gets extra points because the sexiness of the character makes sense in the context, and goes a long way to illustrating the loss of humanity (note how her sexiness was manufactured on an assembly line, and her sexiness is only rarely reflected upon, suggesting a society that is losing the drives and instincts that seperate man from machine). But that doesn't make the fan service shots [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbyRSq2_SSI] of her any less childish, innapropriate, or exploitive. I argue it is the worse for it. One of my favourite shows, Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou comes across as a totally gentle and restrained story, but they saw fit to stick scenes with lesbian robots making out in there. I found that very annoying.
Just to clarify, you're free to dislike fanservice, but it's an inherent part of many, many works, anime or otherwise, and by disliking it and assuming it makes works inherently worse, you are only lowering your own enjoyment of a work.
You don't think it much of a lurid contrivance when a series features sexy robots that can only pass imformation from one to the other by french kissing? This is a series about cool contemplation, pastoral harmony and the demise of the human species. Such a silly feature to the robots undermines the sensible, restrained nature of the show.Grospoliner said:I can't help but feel some of the OPs comments are quite ironic. I hope he keeps this in mind that character traits (such as lesbian robots) among other complaints, do not render a series any more or less mature given the setting, tone, and atmosphere of the show/story. That lies more in the presentation and representation. If you can't see the value of the narrative regardless of its perceived short comings then you have problems with your objectivity.