Regarding pony hate

[Loop Stricken]

You mean as opposed to the 3D pre-recorded animations inherant in 3D gaming?
Cognitive dissonance. Your favourite character is an anthromorphed sapient animal. You're complaining about people liking anthromorphed sapient animals.

I was referring to TV shows, not gaming.

I just see cartoons as being exclusive to TV, I see they as a type of media rather than how someone is rendered.

Again, what is wrong with being a cartoon as it was you people who brought up the fact it was a cartoon not I.

So what about that pony fighting game that's being worked on? Is that cool? Can I like that without earning your scorn? Because it's a game and not a show and this somehow matters?

Also, 'you people'? I chuckled. I had nothing to do with that, but that user's point was valid.
You are still complaining about people liking something in a similar vein, but not identical to, that which you yourself like.
if StarFox got a sudden upsurge of popularity [sub]God help us[/sub] and multiple threads about it were up on /b/, that bastion of intellectual debate, would you be complaining about it, or joining in?

 

[Loop Stricken]

So what about that pony fighting game that's being worked on? Is that cool? Can I like that without earning your scorn? Because it's a game and not a show and this somehow matters?

Also, 'you people'? I chuckled. I had nothing to do with that, but that user's point was valid.
You are still complaining about people liking something in a similar vein, but not identical to, that which you yourself like.

I'm not complaining about them liking it.

Quote me as I would like to see that too.

I dislike the show and you say "I like a game with a fox so why don't I like ponies??", such flawed logic.

I'll refer you to the music genre comparison again.

You're complaining about them talking about the thing they like. Which people do.
And no, I'm not saying you should like ponies. I'm saying... well, I'm saying exactly what I said. Let me go copypaste it:

You are still complaining about people liking something in a similar vein, but not identical to, that which you yourself like.
I don't think I can phrase it any simpler.

 

[Loop Stricken]

if StarFox got a sudden upsurge of popularity [sub]God help us[/sub] and multiple threads about it were up on /b/, that bastion of intellectual debate, would you be complaining about it, or joining in?

You see, this is why I dislike this argument.

You are ignoring some of the points I am making as the ground on which you stood on is collapsing.

Cute. My ground is unshaken. I'm not trying to convert you to the Grand Church of Bronyism.

I never said /b/ was a "bastion of intellectual debate".

I know dear, that's just me being witty.

If Star Fox got some explained surge of popularity I sure as hell wouldn't be discussing i on /b/ of all places.

So I pick option 3. I wouldn't chat about it on /b/.

Then leave the site the hell alone and stop moaning that they're talking about things you don't like.

 

[Loop Stricken]

So what about that pony fighting game that's being worked on? Is that cool? Can I like that without earning your scorn? Because it's a game and not a show and this somehow matters?

Also, 'you people'? I chuckled. I had nothing to do with that, but that user's point was valid.
You are still complaining about people liking something in a similar vein, but not identical to, that which you yourself like.

I'm not complaining about them liking it.

Quote me as I would like to see that too.

I dislike the show and you say "I like a game with a fox so why don't I like ponies??", such flawed logic.

I'll refer you to the music genre comparison again.

You're complaining about them talking about the thing they like. Which people do.
And no, I'm not saying you should like ponies. I'm saying... well, I'm saying exactly what I said. Let me go copypaste it:

You are still complaining about people liking something in a similar vein, but not identical to, that which you yourself like.
I don't think I can phrase it any simpler.

Your foothold is slipping, you were unable to quote me and ended up repeating yourself.

I complained about having 2 threads about the same thing. Also no discussion takes place, just reaction images.

I repeated myself? Huh, I'm sure that wasn't at all intentional.

And how do you know there was no discussion, if you didn't enter these abominable threads to check?
...
You mean to say you actively opened these threads you hate, just to make sure they were just spamming images, on an imageboard, as you suspected and NOT using them to discuss just where all the Dark Matter in the universe actually is?

Damn them.

 

[Azaradel]

Scout = Rainbow Dash
Heavy = Fluttershy
Sniper = Twilight
Engineer = Applejack
Medic = Also Fluttershy, she makes an awesome crazy medic.
Pyro = Pinkie Pie!
Spy = Rarity
Soldier = ... I have no idea. Maybe Rarity? She could be a good officer type.

My personal list is

Scout-Dash
Heavy-Pinkie Pie
Sniper-Twilight
Engineer-Jack
Medic-Fluttershy
Pyro-Spike
Spy-Rarity
Soldier- Tough one... maybe Celestia? She seems like she'd be good at barking orders.

I do believe there's a picture around for this very occasion...

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj09yiX8pi1qg34h7o1_500.png
We need an addition to the rules of the internet: If it exists, there will be ponies of it.

 

[Loop Stricken]

if StarFox got a sudden upsurge of popularity [sub]God help us[/sub] and multiple threads about it were up on /b/, that bastion of intellectual debate, would you be complaining about it, or joining in?

You see, this is why I dislike this argument.

You are ignoring some of the points I am making as the ground on which you stood on is collapsing.

Cute. My ground is unshaken. I'm not trying to convert you to the Grand Church of Bronyism.

I never said /b/ was a "bastion of intellectual debate".

I know dear, that's just me being witty.

If Star Fox got some explained surge of popularity I sure as hell wouldn't be discussing i on /b/ of all places.

So I pick option 3. I wouldn't chat about it on /b/.

Then leave the site the hell alone and stop moaning that they're talking about things you don't like.

I know I posted this in the post that occurred after this one but anyway.

I have no issue with pony discussion. I take issue when there are multiple threads and when people enter other threads and spam ponies.

*Opens /b/. Sees no ponies. Worldview shattered*

Look, you're not quite grasping the nettle of understanding that I'm proffering here, so before i go and play TF2 badly, I shall condense everything into two lines:

1) Leave those sites. Do not darken their metaphysical doorsteps again.

2) Deal with it.

[sub] Refreshes /b/, sees pony thread. First image is Team Fortress 2 ponies. [/sub]

Spoiler: And all was right with the world.

 

[Loop Stricken]

* Opens /b/, sees ponies. Worldview renewed. *

I win, you lose.

Toodles.

I edited.

I didn't accuse you of anything but cognitive dissonance; now I'm not sure if it's just hypocrisy.

As I said (but you ignored again) when the pony thing first came to /b/ I looked at a few threads, next to no discussion went on. 99% was just reaction images with no text.

I didn't ignore it. I am actively advising you to avoid these things you dislike.

 

[JediMB]

1. Star Fox is not overly positive, read above.
2. It's not girly nor a kids show
3. It's not referenced often
4. I rarely see any quotes from it except barrel roll and that is a very rare sight indeed

1) From your description it sounds like it's trying to be tragically grimdark, despite being a game about anthro-animals in spaceships. (Although everyone knows it's basically just about shooting stuff with your spaceship while an annoying frog-boy shouts annoying things at you. )

2) But it's a boyish game for kids.

3) DO A BARREL ROLL!

4) They were terribly common around the time when Star Fox Command was released, I believe.

1. The animation looks like any 5 year old could do better in Adobe Flash
2. The characters are all generic, and have been done before and BETTER
3. There is little to no conflict. At least from what I've seen, the closest thing to conflict they've ever gotten is who gets a fucking ticket to some show.
4. The only relate-able characters are the misanthrope and the shy one. Just. Wow.

1) First of all, your hyperbole doesn't help your argument. Secondly, you might think the animation is very barebones from a quick look at it, but anyone who's actually watched the whole show can tell you that (despite the simplistic style) a lot of work has been put into it, with plenty of quirky character animations that are only used once or twice throughout the series.

2) Twilight Sparkle is a bookish introvert and (despite being magically talented) a strong skeptic. Not used to having friends, she doesn't always know how to handle situations that come up, and things easily get awkward. That said, she's very organized and possesses some leadership qualities. Rainbow Dash is a cocky and competitive tomboy. She's an athlete dreaming of joining her idols in a group of aerial performers. Behind the brash exterior, though, Rainbow hides performance anxieties brought on by being bullied in her youth. Apple-- No, wait, actually... this post is getting long enough without me describing the rest of the ponies too.

3) As has been pointed out, the series is mostly slice-of-life, meaning that most conflicts will be social ones between the different cast members. That said, they do fight a manticore, an evil space princess, a dragon, a hydra, a swarm of town-eating insects, and a cockatrice. The show rather elegantly deals with racism, and one episode deals with both loyalty (keeping secrets) and honesty (letting your friends know your feelings) simultaneously.

4) Personally I find all of the "mane cast" to be very easy to relate to. Even Rarity, despite her whole "fashion designer" thing that I wouldn't give two shits about otherwise. It seems every brony has a "best pony" chosen, but between the Mane 6 and the Cutie Mark Crusaders I couldn't possibly pick a favorite for myself.

 

[Loop Stricken]

4) Personally I find all of the "mane cast" to be very easy to relate to. Even Rarity, despite her whole "fashion designer" thing that I wouldn't give two shits about otherwise. It seems every brony has a "best pony" chosen, but between the Mane 6 and the Cutie Mark Crusaders I couldn't possibly pick a favorite for myself.

Oh aye. I used to say Rainbow Dash was my favourite, at least if we have to choose from the mane six. But... Pinkie Pie now.
well, specifically Pinkamena Diane Pie.

Well... I mean I'm trying to be nice, you know? But sometimes... argh, you just want to snap and talk to a pile of rocks and a sack of flour.

 

[James Raynor]

People hate it because people will not shut up about it and will make pony meme references whenever they can. It's cute for the first week or so, started grating about the third or fourth week, and is just plain annoying by now.

Great, now everypony will be in here ragging on it.

Point in case.

 

[JediMB]

People hate it because people will not shut up about it and will make pony meme references whenever they can. It's cute for the first week or so, started grating about the third or fourth week, and is just plain annoying by now.

Great, now everypony will be in here ragging on it.

Point in case.

If I have to choose between "why are everypony" and "y r every1" or other forms of degenerated English, I'll gladly pick the insertion of "pony" where it doesn't belong.

That said, I did personally stop saying things like "everypony" about a week or two after finishing season 1. It's cute and all when you're talking to other fans, but I don't see much use for it in regular conversation.

...

Okay, so this thread is keeping me up at 4:30 AM, and "inspired" me to put together another one of those image macros. I'll spare all of you non-bronies of it, though, and drop into the brony chat to post it instead.

 

[Shackels]

Right.

It's a show. You watch a show and you like the show. That is all. There's no need to tell everyone about it all the time, spam fucking huge pictures in threads, constantly go on about how it doesn't make you gay, a paedophile or a sissy even though no one accused you of that or rabidly defend the show against criticism. You are also not a persecuted minority, you are some nerds that like a show. Honestly, bronies have managed to out-persecution complex furries, I shit you not!

All I want to do after a long day of being told that people who don't like the show are homophobic, insecure, right wing, christian or whatever is smack a ***** frankly. Watching a show doesn't make you unique, smart or special. You like a show and I don't fucking care.

No one fucking cares what shitty little show you watch because we're all nerds here, we ALL watch a shitty show no one cares about!

Um..Yeah, this is pretty much my feelings on this.
You like a Tv show. Congratu-fucking-lations. Nobody cares.

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

If I see someone with a MLP avatar I simply can't take them seriously.

Alright Mr. Cartoon fox in sunglasses.

How are those barrel rolls going for you?

I will have you know Fox McCloud is the pinnacle of awesomeness and that he is not a cartoon.

Spoiler: Oh yes, because the series is 100% awesome and not childish in the slightest

In what way is it childish I ask you? They are going to save the freaking galaxy from a man who wants to watch them die, not childish at all.

You are taunted about how your father squealed before he died and how you were going to be tortured.

Childish?

Alright, try this on for size.

How would you feel if your own mother said "This isn't the (insert name here) that I love" convincing you that she doesn't love you anymore, or the thought that all your friends that you have done nothing but given to them don't want to be your friends anymore. Your so emotionally DESTROYED that you run away from home or go insane from your idea that YOU ARE NOT WANTED BY ANYBODY.

That is where Friendship is Magic is willing to go.

 

[Jegsimmons]

why i hate it:

animation looks cheap and like something done on flash (i have a thing against animations studios being cheap when shows like invader zim are animated in beautiful way and get canceled)

The show in the 80s was to sell us toys but everyone knew it was for small girls while this one exist just to leach off nostalgia.

the current show JUST FUCKING SUCKS in both writting and a animation...also character design but thats a given

it somehow turn a bunch of boys into a buch of damn sissies.

NO BODY SHUTS THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT!!!!

plus more but thats the top 5.

1. The animation is pretty good and sleek. But I guess it's just a matter of preferences.
2. Lol, no. I can tell you that most of the people that enjoy Friendship is Magic thinks that the older generations are utter shit. We don't speak of it. IT WAS TERRIBLE.
3. Character design, that's about preferences again. But the stories are well written, don't you say anything else. They're interesting, which is fucking hard to come by in modern cartoons.
4. They turn boys into damn sissies? That comment is bad, and you should feel bad. Looking at your avatar, I'm gonna make this rebuttal:
You know what? I hate Halo because it turns boys into annoying morons.

1. Still a very lame animation style that looks like flash.
2. I didnt say it was good, nut it at least it was decent enough hand drawn animation and wasnt quite as retarded S the current one
3. The characters are flat and one dimensional. Stories are not enough draw me in ( and i watched the damn care bears movies)
And its still just a way to cash in on an old brand and sell toys
4. Oh thanks, my friend drew that for me . And no, i dont feel bad its my fucking opinion and im sticking to it.
5. I would have just ignored the show with little to no thought to it until you 'bronies' ( at the risk of sounding homophobic, thats the gayest sounding name ive ever heard) started flooding the threads and forums with them on literally every website trying to get us to watch that stupid show to the point to where a bunch of us have nothing but contempt. for the show and tje annoying fan base that goes completely ape shit crazy over any critism.

The prosecution rest their case your honor.

 

[Aethren]

People hate it because people will not shut up about it and will make pony meme references whenever they can. It's cute for the first week or so, started grating about the third or fourth week, and is just plain annoying by now.

Great, now everypony will be in here ragging on it.

Point in case.

I believe the term you are looking for here is 'case in point'.

 

[Ninjasander]

I do believe there's a picture around for this very occasion...

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj09yiX8pi1qg34h7o1_500.png
We need an addition to the rules of the internet: If it exists, there will be ponies of it.

Oh we already have that. It's called the rules of the ponynet. There are a lot of rules.
http://comicmansion.com/rules-of-the-ponynet
#15 is the one you're looking for.

 

[Hoplon]

Because it's starting to look like the cover of a creepy pederast grooming group.

This is my biggest problem with the haters.

Just because people watch shows with a young target audience doesn't make them pedophiles.

If I were to watch a show aimed at an elderly audience, would that mean I want to have sex with elderly people? No. And you wouldn't assume that it would either. You would think nothing of it. The media just saturates everybody's brain with fear of sex offenders and in return we get discrimination.

The only time I see Pony threads are when either HATERS or CURIOUS people make them. You guys WANT to hate on Ponies, so YOU bring it up. (the above statements are generalizations)

No, honestly I think most of you are in to something that I'm not and that's about it.

The reason I gave that as to why I don't like it's prevalence is because it is a tactic used by people of questionable morals as means to an end.

Same applies to adults in to Pokemon etc.

 

[JediMB]

3. The characters are flat and one dimensional.

I'm gonna point at my previous post here...

Twilight Sparkle is a bookish introvert and (despite being magically talented) a strong skeptic. Not used to having friends, she doesn't always know how to handle situations that come up, and things easily get awkward. That said, she's very organized and possesses some leadership qualities.

Rainbow Dash is a cocky and competitive tomboy. She's an athlete dreaming of joining her idols in a group of aerial performers. Behind the brash exterior, though, Rainbow hides performance anxieties brought on by being bullied in her youth.

Apple-- No, wait, actually... this post is getting long enough without me describing the rest of the ponies too.

That's just the shortest descriptions I could come up with without feeling I'd skipped something important, and I didn't even go into the whole Elements of Harmony thing. By American cartoon standards they have quite a lot to their personalities. (Heck, off the top of my head I couldn't come up with as much for the fricking Ninja Turtles.)

 

[Echo136]

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Immediately invalid once you see

http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/terminal01/2011/2/14/21/my-little-pony-cosplay-6537-1297735783-14.jpg

Im sorry but its a little hard to take any adult seriously who watches this show and acts like its a show for adults. Sure, I watch some kids shows. On a daily basis Im watching Danny Phantom and Penguins of Madagascar, but Im not wearing it proudly on my sleeve like a badge because Im a grown ass man, and like I said, Im also a furry, so Im used to going to cons and seeing sexual deviants, manchildren, social outcasts, and generally disturbing things (thank god for alcohol).

 

[James Joseph Emerald]

Everyone knows video games are just toys for little kids. Honestly I think it's pretty obvious that teens/adults who play video games are just sad, lonely, developmentally retarded shut-ins. Imagine if you devoted all that time and energy to something important, like football! Don't you know this computer games thing is just a fad that will blow over, and you'll be left with nothing but wasted time? If you don't believe me, just watch Fox News (the only news station that hasn't been bought out by corporate interests trying to push that poisonous hobby)!

Big difference is that the show isn't an entire artistic medium, there are games out there designed specifically for children as there are also cartoons designed for adults.

Im not hating on the show, I don't like it or this following it's gathered but when it comes down to it I don't give a damn about it, im just pointing out the obvious fallacy of your argument.

That's not my argument. It was probably a bit too subtle, but I wasn't comparing games to MLP. I was comparing the dismissive, generalising attitude some people have towards games to the dismissive, generalising attitude some people have towards MLP.

Basically, I think it's a very hypocritical attitude to condemn someone's hobby/interest based on sweeping generalisations when that's exactly what we as gamers try so hard to put a stop to.

"You're just watching MLP to fit in with the stupid internet fad" == "You're just playing video games because you're too meek to go outside and make friends"