Reggie: No Reason for Wii Owners to Get PS3 Move

[Super Toast]

Considering how it is way more difficult to program for the PS3, less shovelware is a decent reason to get a Move instead of a Wii. still, PS3 owners have no chance of playing Super Mario Galaxy, which rocks. Hard.

 

[NLS]

He's got a point there, if you already have a Wii, why shell out more money for a PS3 as well? However, if you don't have one already, then perhaps it's best to wait and see how well the Move will turn out.

 

[GamingAwesome1]

I tend not to listen to Reggie. I don't particularly care for the path Nintendo has gone. I say the industry drops motion controls all together and gets back to the classic controls.

I agree, motion controls have got us nowhere fast. I can't name one game where the motion controls didn't completely get on my nerves after 5 minutes.

 

[Zersy]

Reggie is just scared.

He should be haha.

 

[LeonLethality]

...HD anyone?
there's something the ps3 has, and the wii does not.
ps3 games look GOOD on a good TV, most wii titles do not.
and don't talk to me about graphics<gameplay, this is resolution, which makes a large difference in terms of clarity.

Many wii games work around lack of HD, cel shading is a huge thing (look at no more heroes and tatsunoko vs capcom) and look at games like super mario galaxy, it looks great without HD, HD is not needed to make a good console in this generation.

Ok, so 3 games on the Wii were able to get by the lack of HD? Out of how many? The point being, having the ABILITY to go to higher resolutions, is better than just being stuck with years old tech. Is it necessarily needed in every game? Nope. But the option sure as hell better be there. Or is this the first gen that's satisfied with just spinning it's wheels in the mud, going nowhere?

There are more than three I just used them as examples. No the wii isn't spinning it's wheels in the mud it may not have HD but it has advanced in different areas. I should not to use the gameplay over graphics argument but that's a very valid one, I want more from a game than to just look nice. while I enjoy my PS3 I get a lot more out of the good games for the wii, as it uses the same strategy that portable consoles do: compensate for lack of power with creativity.
Judging the wii just because it can't push as many pixels as the 360 or PS3 is really stupid, in previous generations it was not about graphics, sure pretty graphics were a plus but really it was all in the gameplay.

 

[ntnimara]

I have a Wii and a PS3. >_>

and money?

I was very happy to buy a Wii.. cause I am a Nintendo fan mostly, but even more because my family wouldn't like to spend too much on gaming.

So the Wii was the cheapest of the consoles, and I was most interested in what it had to offer: innovating controls and the titles that most appeal to me


Naturally, if I could afford it, I'd buy consoles and games from all producers.

But till then, I'll route for the little console that could

 

[LeonLethality]

The point is, the PS3 and 360, and PC, allow for improvement in BOTH. The Wii FORCES devs to improve upon just one. I judge the Wii, from experience, not from just what some CEO says. I've played it, it amused me for a short period of time, and now collects dust next to my landlords TV (He'd rather come downstairs and play on my PS3, or watch me play on my PC). Thus, the power of the Wii....ooooooh!

But a game doesn't need good graphics, I enjoyed Megaman 10 far more than any game I have on my PS3 and it has 8 bit graphics.
And yes they do allow improvement in both but the devs don't improve on gameplay at all, just the graphics, every thing is the same old thing but the wii has so much diversity.

 

[Assassin Xaero]

I have a Wii and a PS3. >_>

and money?

Actually, no. lol
I got my PS3 this past year for Christmas/Birthday (the black friday special at game stop with the slim, LBP, and GoW collectors edition), and that was all I got from the majority of my family. Same thing with the Wii, only two years before that, back when they were nearly impossible to find. My step mom got lucky and walked into Walmart right when the got new ones in and she picked one up...

 

[SavingPrincess]

The point is, the PS3 and 360, and PC, allow for improvement in BOTH. The Wii FORCES devs to improve upon just one. I judge the Wii, from experience, not from just what some CEO says. I've played it, it amused me for a short period of time, and now collects dust next to my landlords TV (He'd rather come downstairs and play on my PS3, or watch me play on my PC). Thus, the power of the Wii....ooooooh!

If gamers keep this kind of mentality, we're all going to be playing Modern Warfare 12 at some point and creativity in gaming will die off. It's the gaming equivalent of the Transformers effect on movies.

Thankfully, the gaming world is speaking with wallets and the Wii is destroyifying everyone else in sales figures. Sure it's got a lot of shovelware, but it's the only system/company that has tried to do anything new this generation, and now with "Move" and "Natal" on the horizon, those bigger meaner consoles are trying to play catch up.

 

[LeonLethality]

The point is, the PS3 and 360, and PC, allow for improvement in BOTH. The Wii FORCES devs to improve upon just one. I judge the Wii, from experience, not from just what some CEO says. I've played it, it amused me for a short period of time, and now collects dust next to my landlords TV (He'd rather come downstairs and play on my PS3, or watch me play on my PC). Thus, the power of the Wii....ooooooh!

But a game doesn't need good graphics, I enjoyed Megaman 10 far more than any game I have on my PS3 and it has 8 bit graphics.
And yes they do allow improvement in both but the devs don't improve on gameplay at all, just the graphics, every thing is the same old thing but the wii has so much diversity.

No you're absolutely right, games don't NEED good graphics, but should that mean they should not be able to have them? Seriously. Think about it. Games would never have gotten beyond Pong if that were the case. Innovation comes from everywhere, not just from gameplay. Not just from story. Not just from lighting. But everywhere. Had nobody thought to innovate beyond board games, we'd never have FPS', or TPS', or RTS', or RPG's etc... the list goes on and on.

Yes I admit graphics did need improvement but I think we got to the point where they got as far as they needed to be in the last generation, this generation is overdoing it. If we just left graphics where they are and put technology in to innovation games could practically do anything I think HD made things too real and I miss the old cartoony types of games that knew they were games and ran with it, with more realism in graphics brings games trying to be more realistic and failing.

 

[SavingPrincess]

I've never played Modern Warfare 1 or 2, so keep your stereotypes to yourself, there Princess. And PC Gamers still outnumber Wii+360+PS3 gamers by almost a hundred million. So technically, the PC gaming market is 'destroying' (I think was the word you were grasping for), the rest of you kids.

Haha did you just "correct" my made up word? Awesome.

Sterotype or no, it's the direction things are headed. And where in the heck are you getting those figures from. Is that a figure based on people who have computers with a game installed? Because you do know that every copy of windows comes with Minesweeper right? That doesn't necessarily qualify that person as a "PC Gamer."

I don't actually have a Wii, but I do have a 360 and PS3... I want a Wii though, so if you wanna send that dust collecting one my way, I can pay via PayPal... haha.

That being said... I will always take creativity over visuals. Period. I found the DS to be one of the most innovative and fun to play platforms in the current generation and it can barely do 3D in a passable manner.

Thanks for calling me a kid by the way, I don't usually get that much at my age. I miss it.

 

[GloatingSwine]

...HD anyone?
there's something the ps3 has, and the wii does not.
ps3 games look GOOD on a good TV, most wii titles do not.
and don't talk to me about graphics<gameplay, this is resolution, which makes a large difference in terms of clarity.

On the other hand, the kind of casual shit minigame collection which are the natural fare of the Wii, and now of Move, will not make significant use of the extra resolution or clarity.

 

[SavingPrincess]

It's kind of hard to tell a really compelling story without being able to see a character that you're getting to know.

You almost had me until this.

This statment is true for YOU... and god help us, for only you.

You fall under a personality type that requires visual stimulation in order to push your "suspension of disbelief" to a level that allows your brain to absorb a story. This is not true for everyone and, dear god, I hope only true for a minority or else books are dead forever.

Not all of us require something to be Crysis level visually (which if you ask me, the engine is an unoptimized piece of ash). I would gladly play a 16-bit Final Fantasy because unlike you, what hooks me is intelligent narrative and clever stortytelling.

That all being said, I realize I am NEVER going to get someone like you to understand the opposite side of the argument, so pushing the issue is pointless. Crysis couldn't hold my attention and I have a PC that can run it a near full quality @ 2048x1152... it just wasn't that fun. That being said, I STILL to this day play the original Unreal Tournament. I don't need my games to be tech demos, I want them to be fun and creative, entertaining and engrossing.

I will never see things your way and feel perfectly okay with that.