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piers789 said:
pffh said:
piers789 said:
That's pretty heavy philosophy there... I'd say yes as you were once you (as it were). I suppose the next question would be whether, assuming the reincarnated you is reincarnated again, would the third reincarnation be another reincarnation of your first self or an new one of your second?

Ow, my head...
And what about the current you? Are your action now then guided by the personality of the former you and if so is there no free will?

(This is assuming reincarnation is real even if not everyone believes in it bla bla bla)
Being a good ol' fashioned pessimist I don't believe in it but I was working on the assumption that it did exist...

Anyway, err... I have no idea. Would that work along the same principles as Karma in so much as if you led as good life previously would you be more likely to be a better person the next time round?
But then that begs the question of what decides if we lived a good or bad life? Since living a good life is very much different in the west then in the east and also from now to say 500 years ago.

Would we decide ourselves if we lived a good or a bad life? => A person that believes he lived a good life gets rewarded but a person that believes he lived a bad life gets punished kinda thing.

Hmm maybe I should post that I in fact do not believe in reincarnation these are merely just random thoughts.
 

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reincarnation is just a very abstract belief. me i dont know, im not religous. I am terrified of what happens after somebody ties. i dont think about it i just go along.
 

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pffh said:
piers789 said:
pffh said:
piers789 said:
That's pretty heavy philosophy there... I'd say yes as you were once you (as it were). I suppose the next question would be whether, assuming the reincarnated you is reincarnated again, would the third reincarnation be another reincarnation of your first self or an new one of your second?

Ow, my head...
And what about the current you? Are your action now then guided by the personality of the former you and if so is there no free will?

(This is assuming reincarnation is real even if not everyone believes in it bla bla bla)
Being a good ol' fashioned pessimist I don't believe in it but I was working on the assumption that it did exist...

Anyway, err... I have no idea. Would that work along the same principles as Karma in so much as if you led as good life previously would you be more likely to be a better person the next time round?
But then that begs the question of what decides if we lived a good or bad life? Since living a good life is very much different in the west then in the east and also from now to say 500 years ago.

Would we decide ourselves if we lived a good or a bad life? => A person that believes he lived a good life gets rewarded but a person that believes he lived a bad life gets punished kinda thing.

Hmm maybe I should post that I in fact do not believe in reincarnation these are merely just random thoughts.
Good point well made... I see what you mean, what constitutes a good life? Does that bring Fate into the equation too? A sort of co-operative between Karma and Fate for example, deciding the outcome of the life led and therefore determining the overall outcome of the reincarnation. (Should that be a question mark? Who knows? anyway...)
 

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piers789 said:
pffh said:
piers789 said:
pffh said:
piers789 said:
That's pretty heavy philosophy there... I'd say yes as you were once you (as it were). I suppose the next question would be whether, assuming the reincarnated you is reincarnated again, would the third reincarnation be another reincarnation of your first self or an new one of your second?

Ow, my head...
And what about the current you? Are your action now then guided by the personality of the former you and if so is there no free will?

(This is assuming reincarnation is real even if not everyone believes in it bla bla bla)
Being a good ol' fashioned pessimist I don't believe in it but I was working on the assumption that it did exist...

Anyway, err... I have no idea. Would that work along the same principles as Karma in so much as if you led as good life previously would you be more likely to be a better person the next time round?
But then that begs the question of what decides if we lived a good or bad life? Since living a good life is very much different in the west then in the east and also from now to say 500 years ago.

Would we decide ourselves if we lived a good or a bad life? => A person that believes he lived a good life gets rewarded but a person that believes he lived a bad life gets punished kinda thing.

Hmm maybe I should post that I in fact do not believe in reincarnation these are merely just random thoughts.
Good point well made... I see what you mean, what constitutes a good life? Does that bring Fate into the equation too? A sort of co-operative between Karma and Fate for example, deciding the outcome of the life led and therefore determining the overall outcome of the reincarnation. (Should that be a question mark? Who knows? anyway...)
Then again say you reincarnate as a guinea pig or a worm is it even possible to live a bad life as that? To quote Eddie Izzard "I'm an evil giraffe I'll eat all the leaves on this tree and maybe the other giraffes will starve"
 

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Well if we are not reincarnated I would at least hope to wind up in paradise(none of that religous bull crap), but an afterlife eternaly enjoying everything you have come to love in your life on earth.
 

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pffh said:
Then again say you reincarnate as a guinea pig or a worm is it even possible to live a bad life as that? To quote Eddie Izzard "I'm an evil giraffe I'll eat all the leaves on this tree and maybe the other giraffes will starve"
Oh, man now were getting complicated. I was assuming reincarnation from human to human(oid) etc.. As Fate and Karma are human concepts, ergo animals don't have them then I really have no idea. Can an animal lead a bad life? Again, good and bad are human concepts so how could another species be judged in that manner. I was about to suggest an almighty being (god?) until I realised that that is yet again a HUMAN concept. My mind is at a complete blank... in short:
[HEADING=2]I DON'T KNOW[/HEADING]​