Reliable Source: Internet addiction and Michael Bay

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Reliable Source: Internet addiction and Michael Bay

This week on Reliable Source: internet addiction camps, hardcore gamers and Michael Bay.

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Fatal Beating Therapy did make me chuckle, and I'm impressed by the rest too. Glad this is going to become a regular.
 

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This report is insane!

[small]I mean who WOULDN'T want see a Cosby Show movie directed by Michael Bay?[/small]
 

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Not bad. I liked the fatal beating one. It did read like it was kinda rushed. I'll look forward to another installment.
 

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I dare say this round is even better than the previous. Excellent writing, as always, and I'm looking forward to seeing more from it. Good work.
 

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wilsonscrazybed said:
Reliable Source: Internet addiction and Michael Bay

This week on Reliable Source: internet addiction camps, hardcore gamers and Michael Bay.

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Hey, that's actually really good. +1 props from me!
 

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The scene: Early morning, quiet lake. Me and grampa in his boat, he shows me how to bait the hook. I look in awe as he makes a mighty cast, it sails through the air in slow motion. It hits the water with a violent explosion, water and flaming fish fly into the skies. Two Megan Fox's climb into the boat in slowmotion, specks of water glisten in their awesome cleavage, and begin to seduce gramps. A motorcycle jumps over the boat. The End.
 

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Is there anything Bay is unable to ruin? Michael Bar presents Sesame Street the Movie! *shudder*

Page 2, did you mean lionized or demonized? Lionize means to make a celebrity of something. Demonize is to present it as evil or diabolic.
 

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I don´t know if cases where minors are beaten to death is exactly FUNNY!

I would call it CRUDE and while the notion "Fatal Beating Therapy" has the same Boot in the Face of Piety as "Endlösung".
There are limits you know.

How ever the shown SARCASM took the point. But Funny? No Sirs.
 

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Let's add your column to my weekly Escapist viewing queue, shall we?
wilsonscrazybed said:
VoltySquirrel said:
This is now #5 on my list of best features on the Escapist.
Awesome, you're #5 on my list too!
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and which list would that be?
 

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"American scientists are already looking at FBT as a cure for other deviant childhood behavior such as hyperactivity (ADD), depression,..."

Huh... Its funny that the Escapist would risk a sever Defamation Lawsuit by publishing this statement.

1. ADD and Depression are not childhood ailments.
2. They are also not "Deviant behaviour", they are mood disorders.
3. While Clinical depression is a milder form of mood disorder, ADD can seriously effect a persons life if not treated. ADD can also cause a far worse mood disorder called Bipolar disorder (which is considered a fatal desease by most countries with proper medicare).

It is extremely prejugdicial (which is also considered illegal in most countries) to make such a claim in jest. Its like publishing racial slurs and expecting it to be "OK".

Would a fatal beating cure MS? Cause these deseases have WAY more incommon with MS then behavioral problems such as stealing or gang affiliation (which yes can point to behavioral problems).

I find it entirely offensive.
 

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Wilson, continue to provide me with much of the same humour and I may get you a present.

joe_dracos said:
I find it entirely offensive.
Do not say it... don't say it... ah, the hell with it.

Would you like some cheese with your whine? (Sorry if I offended any alcoholics)
 

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That was brilliant.
I loved the dark humor in the first part the most.
 

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Page 3 does bring up a good point

What if "Platnuim Games" get mixed up with "Platnuim Hits"

I can smell the lawsuits :p
 

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joe_dracos said:
"American scientists are already looking at FBT as a cure for other deviant childhood behavior such as hyperactivity (ADD), depression,..."

Huh... Its funny that the Escapist would risk a sever Defamation Lawsuit by publishing this statement.

1. ADD and Depression are not childhood ailments.
2. They are also not "Deviant behaviour", they are mood disorders.
3. While Clinical depression is a milder form of mood disorder, ADD can seriously effect a persons life if not treated. ADD can also cause a far worse mood disorder called Bipolar disorder (which is considered a fatal desease by most countries with proper medicare).

It is extremely prejugdicial (which is also considered illegal in most countries) to make such a claim in jest. Its like publishing racial slurs and expecting it to be "OK".

Would a fatal beating cure MS? Cause these deseases have WAY more incommon with MS then behavioral problems such as stealing or gang affiliation (which yes can point to behavioral problems).

I find it entirely offensive.
The whole thing is meant to be a humerous take on the way many people look at ailments such as gaming addiction and such.. of course depression isn't a behavioral disorder, but the fun of the article is meant to be about how people often perceive such ailments.

And no one is going to risk any kind of legal action with this. I think it's kinda taking reasonable complaining a little far.
 

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AeroZeppelinSevenfold said:
Just when I thought the Escapist couldn't get any better.

You guys throw this gem out at me. Great job.
Impressive!
Fatal Beating Therapy' was appreciated....:D
 

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lewiswhitling said:
The whole thing is meant to be a humerous take on the way many people look at ailments such as gaming addiction and such.. of course depression isn't a behavioral disorder, but the fun of the article is meant to be about how people often perceive such ailments.

And no one is going to risk any kind of legal action with this. I think it's kinda taking reasonable complaining a little far.
my complaint isn't about the entire article... though I am getting sick of hearing "Micheal Bay sucks" but thats something I tend to ignore. My problem is with the one line. That is the focus of my complaint. And while I'm not threatening legal action I know several people in the health community that will not take it as lightly as I have. I'm not suggesting that I consider this reaction light, its just 1 in 5 of the escapists readers are going to be afflicted with a mood disorder (it PLAGUES my family), while most will be minor and temporary, there still is several that are serious such as those I have mentioned.
 

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Bullshit, it's well known the next Michael Bay movie will be ALF: Revenge of the Kittens.
 

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Aside from his movie projects, Michael Bay has been contracted to ruin other more personal experiences like your first kiss and that time you and your dad went out fishing and he gave you your first beer.
"Um... Dad? I don't remember the tackle box exploding when we did that."

"No, but it would've been AWESOME!"

"Yeah, you're right! Hey, pass me a beer."

"Sure."

KABOOM

This has been a Michael Bay production.
 

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Yeah, definitely checking this every time it comes out now. Well done wilson.

Although I still spend most days hoping against hope for another addition of Crazy Moderator Theatre.

tehroc said:
The scene: Early morning, quiet lake. Me and grampa in his boat, he shows me how to bait the hook. I look in awe as he makes a mighty cast, it sails through the air in slow motion. It hits the water with a violent explosion, water and flaming fish fly into the skies. Two Megan Fox's climb into the boat in slowmotion, specks of water glisten in their awesome cleavage, and begin to seduce gramps. A motorcycle jumps over the boat. The End.
No fighter planes involved?
 

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Is this a new feature? I want to see more.

Armitage Shanks said:
Yeah, definitely checking this every time it comes out now. Well done wilson.

Although I still spend most days hoping against hope for another addition of Crazy Moderator Theatre.

tehroc said:
The scene: Early morning, quiet lake. Me and grampa in his boat, he shows me how to bait the hook. I look in awe as he makes a mighty cast, it sails through the air in slow motion. It hits the water with a violent explosion, water and flaming fish fly into the skies. Two Megan Fox's climb into the boat in slowmotion, specks of water glisten in their awesome cleavage, and begin to seduce gramps. A motorcycle jumps over the boat. The End.
No fighter planes involved?
You've got to save something for the sequel.
 

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joe_dracos said:
my complaint isn't about the entire article... though I am getting sick of hearing "Micheal Bay sucks" but thats something I tend to ignore. My problem is with the one line. That is the focus of my complaint. And while I'm not threatening legal action I know several people in the health community that will not take it as lightly as I have. I'm not suggesting that I consider this reaction light, its just 1 in 5 of the escapists readers are going to be afflicted with a mood disorder (it PLAGUES my family), while most will be minor and temporary, there still is several that are serious such as those I have mentioned.
I think you missed the point of this. This is slanted humor, it is parody. This is like The Escapist version of 'The Onion'. I think you are reading into this too much. It is not real news, it is done in jest.
 

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I thought this was brilliant and I hope to see more of this. Also thanks for the tips on how to get women over to play Halo, and other Platinum Hits! (That's sarcasm, really...)
 

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That was genius, the line dead rising in an article in a game featuring erotic Japanese games did cause me to shudder just a little bit
 

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Monshroud said:
I think you missed the point of this. This is slanted humor, it is parody. This is like The Escapist version of 'The Onion'. I think you are reading into this too much. It is not real news, it is done in jest.
Or perhaps I didn't miss the point. I understand parody, unfortunately it is a popular belief that the deseas ADD and other mood disorders are behavioural disorders that can be cured that way. I just don't find it funny.
 

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joe_dracos said:
Monshroud said:
I think you missed the point of this. This is slanted humor, it is parody. This is like The Escapist version of 'The Onion'. I think you are reading into this too much. It is not real news, it is done in jest.
Or perhaps I didn't miss the point. I understand parody, unfortunately it is a popular belief that the deseas ADD and other mood disorders are behavioural disorders that can be cured that way. I just don't find it funny.
That's what is funny about this, is the fact that we know things like this can't be cured that way. No. . . I think you missed the point entirely, especially when you tell a publication that they could be risking a defamation lawsuit. Defation for what exactly? If you don't find humor in something like this, that is fine. Don't read it. Just don't go telling people they are wrong for laughing at it.
 

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Well done, sir! That article was impressively humorous. I was, as the kids would say, "lolling".
 

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joe_dracos said:
"American scientists are already looking at FBT as a cure for other deviant childhood behavior such as hyperactivity (ADD), depression,..."

Huh... Its funny that the Escapist would risk a sever Defamation Lawsuit by publishing this statement.

I find it entirely offensive.
Defamation: a communication from one person to at least one other that lowers or harms the reputation of an identifiable third person, where the communicator (the publisher) has no legal defence.


Key word highlighted for your convenience =]
 

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There is no way this needed to split into five pages. Just making me load more :mad:
 

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joe_dracos said:
"American scientists are already looking at FBT as a cure for other deviant childhood behavior such as hyperactivity (ADD), depression,..."

Huh... Its funny that the Escapist would risk a sever Defamation Lawsuit by publishing this statement.

It is extremely prejugdicial (which is also considered illegal in most countries) to make such a claim in jest. Its like publishing racial slurs and expecting it to be "OK".

I find it entirely offensive.
Hi Joe, thanks for reading my column. The feedback I've gotten here has been great, but I know not everyone is going to appreciate some of the humor or imagery.

It can be hard to interpret an author's intention, especially when they're attempting to create a scene that is not only poignant, but funny. Obviously, not everyone is going to see the situation the way I do. My point was that it angers me that Chinese parents are trying to solve teenage growing pains with what are essentially boot camps with corporal punishment. Does beating someone solve mental disabilities or the desire to escape a future where you are forced to work in a garment factory for 10$ a month? No, it even aggravates the problems in most cases, right?

Most recently a teenager in one of these camps was beaten to death in one of these ?tough love? camps. That?s what gave me the interest and fueled my anger at parents who would rather farm out their children to an institution than help them by being understanding. After all we all had plenty of problems we outgrew as we got older.

China and the rest of the world, have a lot of problems with substitute parenting. It's humor, but it doesn't make the situation any less important. I think as someone who is sensitive to this particular issue your job is not to have a knee jerk reaction every time these issues are mentioned. It weakens your position and trivializes your cause when you argue semantics with people who are essentially agreeing with you.

-Seth N. Abel
 

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wilsonscrazybed said:
Hi Joe, thanks for reading my column. The feedback I've gotten here has been great, but I know not everyone is going to appreciate some of the humor or imagery.
Thanks for responding.

wilsonscrazybed said:
It can be hard to interpret an author's intention, especially when they're attempting to create a scene that is not only poignant, but funny.
It is difficult to communicate efficiently through a written media alone. Unless you are righting a novel or short story their is no way to communicate the inflection of the words in question. Thats what makes touching on a subject such as this difficult. While humour may have been the intent, and most people who have never delt with the issue will see it in a different light then what was intended. Unfortunately the bulk of society currently believes that these deseases are infact caused by bad parenting or bad behaviour. Teachers have been trained to keep an eye out for ADD. Unfortunately similar deseases can take 10 years to get a diagnosis and that could leave the unfortunate victim's life in shambles.

wilsonscrazybed said:
Obviously, not everyone is going to see the situation the way I do. It angers me as a gamer that Chinese parents are trying to solve teenage growing pains with what are essentially boot camps with corporal punishment.
Unfortunately that is a part of chinesse culture (disapline and respect for family is extremely important) and their culture has yet to evolve to a point were they find another way to inforce these beliefs (largely thanks to centuries of outside repression and interferance). While it is angering, their is nothing that we can or should do (from a moral standpoint). One day their culture will shift, but we can not force them to change just because we want them too. Its a huge moral dilema.

wilsonscrazybed said:
Does beating someone solve mental disabilities or the desire to escape a future where you are forced to work in a garment factory for 10$ a month?
Just remember that most of the products made in chinesse sweat shops are owned by companies who would rather pay that miniscule amount instead of paying one of the citizens within their own country 10 dollars an hour. However, this really wasn't my problem. Further down I will reply to this.

wilsonscrazybed said:
Most recently a teenager in one of these camps was beaten to death in one of these ?tough love? camps. That?s what gave me the interest and fueled my anger at parents who would rather farm out their children to an institution than help them by being understanding.
The parents suffered more consiquences then lossing their son (I assume the child was male concidering Chinesse culture) and now their entire family line has been put in jeapordy (they actually really care about this). Not to mention that China does not have anything like old folks homes, it is the responsibility of their oldest male child to take care of them in their old age. They have essentially destroyed their future. While this does not have a large effect on us (our culture is vastly different), it does have an effect on them.

wilsonscrazybed said:
I think as someone who is sensitive to this particular issue your job is not to have a knee jerk reaction every time these issues are mentioned. It weakens your position and trivializes your cause when you argue semantics with people who are essentially agreeing with you.
While my reaction may have been knee jerksih, I didn't just simple slap a huge "I HATE THIS ARTICLE". I zeroed in on the focus of my anger, I identified my problem with the line in question and I fully explained the issue I have with it. Since it was suggested out of hand that depression and ADD (mood disorders) could be treated with a simple beating. The line even reinforced the idea that they are behaviour problems. While it was a joke with no intention of harm, so was racial jokes 30 years ago. I'm not saying that you shouldn't make light of the subject, you just have to do so with the appropriate amount of tact (watch the DVD Titus (any season)). Its not semantics, it is an important definition for those who have the desease(s).

As I've said before, all that joke does is reinforce the stereotypes and THAT trivializes everything these people... and (as you probably have already deduced) that I go through on a daily basis. So I'm not just some churchy-do-goodder nut job sounding the trumpet and flying the colours, I have a reason to complain and a position to base my complaint from (bipolar type II). Though I may live to regret this admission.

I feel it is YOU (capitalized for enphasis not anger) who has trivialized the desease (and those like them) by not only reinforcing the stereotypes but attempting to minimize my possition. If the joke had been properly phrased I probably would have laughed. You do not know the kind of harm you do to people with these desease by suggesting it is their fault (even if you didn't mean to). It is VERY (again, caps for enphesis) important for all people to realize that when somebody with a mood disorder does something out of character that it is the desease influencing them.

Again, thanks for the reply, but I am still angry.