Rep. Joe Baca Rails Against Supreme Court Decision

Baresark

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Haha, the filth that should no longer be pedaled to the public is lies from politicians. It's an attack on children to tell them everyone is trying to hurt them.
 

Twilight_guy

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I hate to say it but... objective journalism, what's that?

Honestly I dislike stories like this. It's the writer calling the guy an idiot followed but a bunch of posters calling him an idiot. Yes the congressman's opinion is probably made out of ignorance, yes its dumb, no I don't want to hear a bunch of lemmings repeatedly calling him dumb.
 

DanDeFool

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Is it just me, or when a headline says someone is "railing against" something does it almost always mean said someone is "making short-sighted and unreasonable moralistic arguments against" something?

P.S.: If games need to carry health warning labels, then books like "Beloved", "The Jungle", "All Quiet on the Western Front", and "Romeo and Juliet" should carry similar warning labels reading: "The following material may cause you to hate all of humanity with the fiery passion of a gamma ray burst."

Seriously, why get pissy about violent video games when classic literature is just as likely, if not more likely, to make people want to do harm to their fellow man?
 

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Andy Chalk said:
Of course, that ignores the fact that the videogame industry does more than any other entertainment business to keep parents educated and informed about its products, and that videogames have a higher level of age rating compliance than any other medium on the market.
You make a few good points but that statement is complete nonsense. Both the music AND movie industries have very clear(to the consumer anyway) guidelines and ratings systems. And while video games have a system of their own, it is not in fact enough to discourage minors from playing games. which is a misnomer anyway. Let's call it partaking in interactive entertainment, since that is waaaay more accurate a description than gaming for a lot of the major franchises.

That is the biggest problem with the industry and IMO the crux of the general argument for this type of legislation. Games are not movies, they are not music, books... They are interactive entertainment requiring the participant to make choices, to consider morality(or lack there of). So while the fanboys and delinquents can sit around making fun of the old guys trying to "ban video games", they miss the primary point of contention: How do we safely transition our children into an age where the level of interaction is so great that it does in fact alter how we see and think of our world. Not just in games but with all forms of interactive media.
 

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I wanted to enjoy hearing what he had to say. I'm sure it was ridiculous, outdated, and lacking in facts. Unfortunately it seems I can't make it through a single article without an add taking up half my screen.
 

goldfalsebond

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go ahead, put a health warning label on it, its not gonna do anything. you say cigarettes have something similar, but last time i checked, there are enough cigarettes being consumed by minors to give superman cancer
 

guntotingtomcat

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Well, perhaps church's and schools should carry health warnings, as children primarily partake in sedimentary activities in those places.
 

Vykrel

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i suppose morons like this exclude movies, television, music, books, magazines, etc. from their anti-sex/violence hit list because they have actually experienced these things for themselves. im willing to bet that this dude has never actually played a violent video game, or even been in the same room as someone who was. hes too fucking old.

but even then, thats not an excuse for stupidity. my dad is 60, and im so glad he has always been smart enough to realize that violent games have no affect on my behavior. ive been playing violent games since i was in elementary school...
 

ImprovizoR

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They can talk all the want. There is nothing they can do now except take responsibility for their kids. If they don't like it, they can suck a big fat cock.
 

Zelda_Lover26

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Hey, my mom just came up with a crazy idea...

if parents don't want to pay attention... have the retailers do it... all they would really have to do is ask for an ID if it is a mature rated game. or if an adult tries to buy an M rated game, and they have a ten year old or something, don't let them buy it. They may end up hating it... but hey, if they want the government to step in, their going to have to put up with the consequences. And this sound stupid (and a note, I'm not on their side, this label thing is a really stupid idea, mainly because you have no physical evidence that any of those warning are true, and to me, you have no proof, your argument is invalid) but if it will finally make them shut up, I say let them... not like its going to make any difference to me, I'm 19, I'll by whatever games I want. Besides, when has such a label ever actually worked?
 

Alon Shechter

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I was allowed to enter "In Bruges" when I was 10-11 years old, but I'm not allowed to purchase Empire: Total War until I'm 16.
Even if the "Think of the children!" argument is legitimate, priorities should be set. The film industry is so much bigger and so much more violent.
 

Eri

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Sougo said:
Actually, baka means stupid in Japanese. But close enough.

theApoc said:
Andy Chalk said:
Of course, that ignores the fact that the videogame industry does more than any other entertainment business to keep parents educated and informed about its products, and that videogames have a higher level of age rating compliance than any other medium on the market.
You make a few good points but that statement is complete nonsense. Both the music AND movie industries have very clear(to the consumer anyway) guidelines and ratings systems. And while video games have a system of their own, it is not in fact enough to discourage minors from playing games. which is a misnomer anyway. Let's call it partaking in interactive entertainment, since that is waaaay more accurate a description than gaming for a lot of the major franchises.

That is the biggest problem with the industry and IMO the crux of the general argument for this type of legislation. Games are not movies, they are not music, books... They are interactive entertainment requiring the participant to make choices, to consider morality(or lack there of). So while the fanboys and delinquents can sit around making fun of the old guys trying to "ban video games", they miss the primary point of contention: How do we safely transition our children into an age where the level of interaction is so great that it does in fact alter how we see and think of our world. Not just in games but with all forms of interactive media.
You're wrong. Clear statistics were released by the (FCC I think?) that prove retailers follow ESRB guidelines much more strictly than they folllow any other media's
 

Gamegodtre

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Sougo said:
I believe 'Baca' means 'stupid' in Japanese.

Also what exactly could you possibly put down on a warning label on a videogame that would ACTUALLY discourage ppl. from buying it, short of citing a direct link with cancer. Wait.. I think I just made up Fox News' latest headline..
i believe its spelt baka but it close enough