jklinders said:
Dead Metal said:
No, that's not how I mean it.
Of course it should have worked on release and not be as broken as it is, but that's not what I'm arguing for.
My comment was in regards to those getting pissed that the PC fix takes so long, and implying that it's taking this long because they're focusing instead on console DLC, which is not the case. The console DLC has no bearing on the PC port, since both those things are handled by different teams. It's like if the car you just bought broke down while leaving the seller, them telling you they have no mechanic and you have to wait for it to get fixes, and you then complaining that the accountant, who's currently number crunching in the offices of the dealership, should instead come out and fix the car for you instead of doing the job he can do.
I might not have seen your reply had I not looked for it. Try quoting when you do so, it's easier.
I really don't see where people are bitching about the DLC slowing the process down. Only an idiot would think that. What happened here is a clear cut case of Rocksteady outsourcing the port, never doing a so much as a scrap of playtesting (that's the most favorable outlook as even a small amount of playtesting would have shown it to be broken and turned this into out and out fraud). The DLC was mentioned in passing but not as the main point.
People are pissed off because they paid money for something that should have even passed Steam Greenlight and being now told that IT CANNOT BE FIXED FOR MONTHS IF AT ALL. It needs to be a top priority.
Going back to my car analogy which you tried to rebuff. Get me my money back or a new car or I'll call the cops. But in video games we have businesses and even consumers that are saying that we have to just bend over and take it while they deign to fix their fraud on their schedule. We need to absolutely stop being tolerant of these practices which are (rightly treated) as fraud everywhere else.
I did aim for Quote, I was a bit surprised when the comment form lacked the quoted post.
It was pretty late when I posted the first post, so I might have overblown it when I saw the few comments that did mention the console DLC and this patch.
Don't get me wrong, they are fully in their rights to be angry at how the game was released, I'm not arguing against that. What I am arguing against is pretending like it doesn't take time to fix something. And lets be honest, Arkham Knight is so broken on PC, that it sounds kinda unrealistic that it would be fixed by September.
Luckily Steam now offers refunds, so you can get your money back for it.
And no, I wasn't trying to rebuff your car analogy, I was using it to explain my point.
It's stuff like this, as well as other things, that I barely even buy an play video games anymore, the industry is completely and utterly f**ked, the customer base is retarded (seriously, you'll pre-order a super expensive CE from a company that delivers barely functional games and are surprised when it sucks?[a more general thing, not necessarily aimed at Arkham Knight]), all the god damn DLC and the attitude the creators then have. Oh and the stupid dick measuring about what system someone chooses to play on.
After I had to sit and wait for three hours to finally start Playing my stupid pre-ordered Collector's Edition of Arkham City, because I had to download an ass full of firmware that didn't show up the day before, a stupid day one patch, and the Catwoman DLC which of course decided to randomly cancel its download so I had to restart it again and again, I decided to never, ever pre-order a game again. And with Arkham Knight, I decided back when it was announced that I'll be waiting for the Game of the Year Edition, so it will at least be complete and patched when I play it. No other industry is as broken as this and allowed to continue.
So you don't have to vent your frustration at me, I'm not the one responsible nor am I defending the way the game turned out to be, but I'm not so stupid as to believe that they can just snap their fingers and fix the game like that, because it'S not broken, it's not even finished if we're being honest here.
If I was an asshole like the guys who regularly comment on articles about broken console ports, I would have simply said "well, you should have bought the PS4 version then".