Report: Windows 9 Being Prepped For April 2015 Launch

Hawk eye1466

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I was perfectly happy with 7 but then I got a laptop that came preinstalled with 8 and at this point I can't get rid of it, so here's hoping 9 isn't a flaming middlefinger and they actually make an OS instead of trying to turn my computer into an iphone.
 

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I've spent every moment praying none of my computer illiterate family members bought a new laptop ever since Windows 8 came out. The thought of explaining the metro UI changes was worse to me than any of the other problems I had with Windows 8. Hopefully Windows 9 swings back to being more like XP & Win 7.

Though even then I cannot see myself moving from Win 7 anytime soon. I mean the only reason I still have Windows is gaming, everything else I do through Linux, and have done for a few years now. Plus with the chance of Linux becoming a more viable gaming OS I'd rather sit on my Win7/Linux dual boot for now and see how Window 9/SteamOS & Linux pan out over the next few years.
 

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Will they add the feature of being able to freaking close a program with a touchscreen only I wonder.
 

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sb666 said:
It will be interesting to see if it will follow this cycle.
If you read across the top of the picture it lists every Windows OS I've ever used. And the bottom is all the crap I skipped with the exception of Windows 95.
 

Something Amyss

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Oh, we're listening to Paul Thurrot again? That's usually ended well.

SecondPrize said:
I wish microsoft wasn't like an abusive husband I keep coming back to.
I think of them more as a mob boss. "Nice OS you got here. Be a shame if something happened to it."

unstabLized said:
I just got Windows 7 a few months ago, the Professional edition which is supposedly being supported until 2020, so unless Windows 9 somehow redeems the.. whatever Windows 8 was, than I'll gladly stick with Windows 7 which I'm enjoying very fondly after upgrading from Vista. Should've upgraded sooner but I was too lazy to back up all my stuff until my computer literally gave up >.>
Only problem I can see is that we've already got games coming out that are Windows 8 only. Even if 7 is supported to 2020, it might not be a usable OS for gaming (least, as far as future games). And I don't know how heavy a PC gamer you are, but I do note you have a Steam account linked here.

Vie said:
Fairwell Metro, you god awful attempt to tabletise a desktop OS.
There's no guarantee they won't continue down that road.

matrix3509 said:
I see Microsoft is attempting to imitate Activision's standard operating procedure. I wonder if they'll have the balls to actually start releasing an OS with minor UI changes every year. Linux and SteamOS is looking more attractive with each passing month.
Come now. This release would be nothing new or unusual for Microsoft.
 

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wombat_of_war said:
considering microsoft is determined to push the tablet interface on people ill be skipping windows 9 as well. hell if i didnt get a new pc id still be using xp
This right here.

If the Windows 9 interface is even remotely similar to that of Windows 8 or Server 2012 then I am just going to ride Windows 7 until it stops being supported. That interface was an abomination and every single piece of it needs to be thrown into a fire and lost to the mists of time. Just keep the Windows 7 interface and improve back end performance, that's all anyone needs from a new Windows OS.
 

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Well, lets hope their rush doesn't result in the same thing that happened with IE11. IE10 was horrible and broken, so they rushed IE11 out of the door as fast as possible, and it's just as bad as IE10. Realistically, everyone will wait till it's been out a little while to to buy it, regardless. First adoption is a pain in the ass because of massive compatibility issues. But, I'm hopeful this will turn out better.
 

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sb666 said:
It will be interesting to see if it will follow this cycle.
Well it doesn't cover Windows 2000 but I guess it doesn't count. I'm still bitter about Win2k being a viable OS and promptly being tossed on its ass for XP which was so much crap until about Sp2. I'm probably also bitter that I got my MCSE in Windows 2k about a month before it was tossed with no warning whatsoever.
 

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Owyn_Merrilin said:
A-D. said:
sb666 said:
It will be interesting to see if it will follow this cycle.
That picture is wrong, its missing Win98 Second Edition, Win NT 4.0 and Windows 2000, though the curve would still be correct for the most part.

That being said, it smells like another case of Vista to 7. So maybe Win9 will be the good Win8 essentially, like how 7 is essentially the good Vista version ;P
It also pegs 3.1 as good and 95 as bad. As someone who still periodically loads those two up in virtual machines (mainly for old Windows games that need 16 bit support), 95 was not bad at all. Yes, it was completely full of security holes, but it also came out at a time before the internet became ubiquitous, a time when files were more likely to be shared via floppy disk than modem. And from a user's perspective, 95 was a huge improvement over 3.1, which was really little more than a GUI that sat on top of DOS. 95 did a number of things that DOS couldn't, most notably from the perspective of a gamer, it introduced Direct X, which was a huge, huge thing. 3.1 mostly just made using a computer a bit more intuitive[footnote]It also wasn't the first version of Windows. As the number implies, there was a commercially released Windows 1, 2, and also something called Windows 386, which from what I understand was basically Windows 2 tweaked to better support the features of the then new and powerful Intel 386 processor. There's probably a few other variations I'm forgetting, not even counting stuff like 3.0 and 3.11.[/footnote].

Basically, the "pattern" has only really existed since Vista turned out to suck, or since ME if you want to ignore that 2000 was a thing.
Agreed that 95 wasn't that bad and that the chart is missing a few, probably to make its point seem more legitimate. But honestly, from what I remember of 98 I wonder if whoever made that graphic was using the same Windows 98 I was, because I remember it being pretty awful. Freezes, crashes and blue screens were frequent. I'm not sure I ever went more than a few days without having to reboot the damn thing.
 

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8 was a tablet OS at heart, that's the problem. If your machine doesn't have touch, it's incredibly difficult to use.

Let me clue you in, Microsoft - Apple maintains two separate operating systems - iOS and MacOS. Different systems for different devices. Follow this model - a tablet OS for tablets, and a Desktop OS for computers.

Or at least have the decency to give us the Win7 desktop, with a proper start menu by default if the computer doesn't detect a touchscreen.
 

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VinLAURiA said:
Oh look, another "Windows Cycle" circlejerk started by the very first reply. A.k.a. the new circlejerk people had to come up with only after their "XP will forever be the pinnacle of Windows" circlejerk was utterly shattered when even they had to grudgingly admit that Win7 was massively better.

Typical sweeping quantifications from the likes of folk who frequent internet forums and think they have the world all figured out and categorized through a pile of tabloid-worthy platitudes and supposed "patterns." It'd be adorable... if it weren't so infuriating!

*storms off*
Ya know, not everything is a "circlejerk".

Sometimes, you can notice a pattern and find it funny.

OT: I think I'll stick with my current transition to Linux, thanks.
 

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mew4ever23 said:
8 was a tablet OS at heart, that's the problem. If your machine doesn't have touch, it's incredibly difficult to use.
I wouldn't say incredibly, but it was needlessly complex and definitely more trouble that it's worth.

I had to learn how to use it on the fly, because some of my clients upgraded for God knows what reason (my clients tend to not be very tech savvy, hence their need for me), and it was frustrating as hell.
 

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So either Microsoft is trying to pull off the Apple bullshit business practice, or they really want everyone to forget that Windows 8 exists. Either way, I'm sticking to Windows 7 for a long time thank you very much.
 

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babinro said:
I have Windows 7 and have no intention to switch things up unless it becomes mandatory for future gaming. Given the option, I'd gladly stick with Windows XP. The only feature in 7 that gets any use is the snap left snap right feature for convenience.
How about support for new hardware, or the fact that XP is full of security holes. Why anyone would stick to outdated operating system software is beyond me. Especially when we're moving into a 64-bit age. There are a lot of reasons to get 7, and not any I can think of to stick with XP. XP was shit up until about the last 3rd of its lifespan and even then wasn't awesome. The only reason not to upgrade when Vista came out was because it was Vista. Windows 7 is much more stable, secure and pretty much runs better than XP in almost every way short of a few games that are wonky or won't work right out of the box due to the era they were released and the way they were programmed.
Most of those issues are solved with very little google searching needed.
EDIT: clicked post before I was done by accident.
I don't mean you directly but rather people who constantly say they'll never upgrade from XP. Thats just luddite in the extreme.
 

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I hope people realize that Paul Thurrott has absolutely zero credibility. And that "reports" of Microsoft reporting the old startmenu pops up about one per month, and are pretty much never substantiated. It's not necessarily that this article or Thurrott is wrong. It's just that there is such an oversimplification of what's going on.
 

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I still use Windows XP as my primary operating system, with Windows 7 living on a second hard drive for the couple of games that require it.
 

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Dragonbums said:
So either Microsoft is trying to pull off the Apple bullshit business practice, or they really want everyone to forget that Windows 8 exists.
I don't see how either tracks, but especially the first. Apple at least has the decency to have an OS for their computers that is separate from their portable OS.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Dragonbums said:
So either Microsoft is trying to pull off the Apple bullshit business practice, or they really want everyone to forget that Windows 8 exists.
I don't see how either tracks, but especially the first. Apple at least has the decency to have an OS for their computers that is separate from their portable OS.
Ignoring the fact that Google and Canonical(Ubuntu/Linux) are progressively merging their desktop/tablet environments into one UI much like Windows 8 and will continue to do so in future iterations, as well as the fact that the Mavericks (OSX) was actually marketed by Apple as being "inspired" by their mobile operating system iOS.

Indeed, it's not as radical of a change as Windows 8, but as more and more major tech companies are moving towards common kernel/common OS solution for all their products and tablet/laptop hybrids are becoming more popular, that decency that you speak of is something that you won't see much of in a few years.
 

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It really isn't fair to compare 8 to Vista or ME. Virtually all of its problems are UI problems which are easily enough worked around. ME and Vista had problems rooted much deeper, such as memory management issues, poor stability, being slow for no good reason, a completely broken System Restore feature that makes it incredibly difficult to remove viruses, etc. Literally all of 8's problems can be 100% solved with a $5 purchase of Start8. Vista and ME are unfixable trash, because the problems are too low-level.

And outside of Metro's easily-sidestepped annoyingness? It's considerably faster, more stable, and more secure than both XP and 7. This doesn't necessarily excuse the Metro BS (they should've made it more optional), but it simply isn't a broken OS the way Vista and ME were, and it can't reasonably be put on their level.

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