Respect
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I wouldn't do it. Loads of old people are all about respect for them and them alone from everyone else. It doesn't work that way, respect must be earned, not given because you're older than everyone else. What's she done in her life that deserves more respect than a soldier jumping on a mine in Iraq with the bag on his back saving the lifes of four of his men, his comrades?
Age is not the deciding factor when it comes to respect. So what if some guy is 74? Is he wise? Does that make him smart and respectable? When people hit 65 are they given a ceremony saying "Congrats, you survived the first 2/3 of life! Now people will respect you for nothing!" No, it's what you've done in life that gets respect. Of course, some old people can still get respect, like the D-DAY soldier who played the bagpipes for his men in the middle of battle.
Take your hat off, and stuff it down her throat.
Age is not the deciding factor when it comes to respect. So what if some guy is 74? Is he wise? Does that make him smart and respectable? When people hit 65 are they given a ceremony saying "Congrats, you survived the first 2/3 of life! Now people will respect you for nothing!" No, it's what you've done in life that gets respect. Of course, some old people can still get respect, like the D-DAY soldier who played the bagpipes for his men in the middle of battle.
Take your hat off, and stuff it down her throat.
Take off my hat, and know to never put it on again indoors when she's around. I'm not about to piss off a old women because silly pride into keeping my hat on
Your logic didn't make sense, uncle Joe and Grandpa both EXPERIENCED those things, while Grandma watched those things happen on tv. She was rather well off growing up anyway and I think the only way she earned money as an adult was by marrying dudes who would mysteriously die and she'd inherit their money.EnzoHonda said:
Really, it is rude to wear a hat indoors. It may be antediluvian, it may seem silly to you, but that's the way polite society functions.whycantibelinus said:
On the other hand, I've been trying to parse out the family tree here. Your girlfriend's (granddaughter A) grandmother, visiting her granddaughter and her granddaughter's boyfriend (at the boyfriend's house, in which granddaughter B and boyfriend B cohabitate), told you (boyfriend A) to take off your hat. Is that right?
Frankly, I have more respect for the elderly, and would have expected your girlfriend, her sister, or the sister's boyfriend to back the grandmother up. If my girlfriend's grandmother told me to take off a hat, I'd take off the damn hat and sheepishly apologize. Respect and politeness aren't contingent on whose house you happen to be in at the time.
So, you think elders are "moral?" What about the blacks who were discriminted against and lynched because of the color of their skin? What about the homosexuals who were abused and jailed because of their unfortunate fate to have been born different? What about the tens of thousands of Japanese Americans who were placed in internment camps during WWII? What about the Native americans who had their land, heritage and life stolen from them? WHAT ABOUT THEM, HUH?Greasemoicockneypalm said:
Our elders are worse than us, not better.
I'm not whining, I was reflecting on a situation that I feel I should have acted differently in and asking the community what they would do. I wasn't asking for a critique on my own personal manners.Novskij said:
Yes she knows my opinion of her grandmother and she shares it, so the relationship isn't on the line.Gxas said:
It's not about the hat, I don't give a shit about the hat, it's mostly the fact that she was so rude about it. She could have asked me nicely and then if I didn't comply it would be legitimate to rudely come after me about it.
She doesn't know how I was raised, I was never taught this rule growing up, I had heard it in passing and randomly throughout my life but I had never applied it to myself and this is the first time anyone has requested this. It's that she doesn't respect where I'm coming from and thinks that everyone should know what she wants and fucking do it. I think that's more rude than wearing a fucking hat indoors.
Did I miss the Ann Landers column where she mentioned that wearing hats was polite? I was raised to understand that it was considered good manners and "a sign of good breeding" (whatever the hell THAT means) to remove your headwear once inside a building.
basically, I will use roughly what Marcus Brigstocke had to say about this sort of thing.
If you're 80 it doesn't mean you deserve my respect because it just means you haven't done something interesting enough to kill you.
So yeah, I'd have kept my hat on if I were you. If it was her house I would probably have taken it off but if it is not her home, I wouldnt think she had the right to tell me what I could and could not do.
Its not because of their age that I'll ever respect older people, I only respect those who have done something which commands respect, like fought in a war or done something truly noble.
If you're 80 it doesn't mean you deserve my respect because it just means you haven't done something interesting enough to kill you.
So yeah, I'd have kept my hat on if I were you. If it was her house I would probably have taken it off but if it is not her home, I wouldnt think she had the right to tell me what I could and could not do.
Its not because of their age that I'll ever respect older people, I only respect those who have done something which commands respect, like fought in a war or done something truly noble.
