Actually its Repeater ammo, see the Pistol is the only "type" of gun that has two different sets of ammo for two different kinds of pistols.Poopie McGhee said:
Review: Borderlands
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It's weird... I rented the game two days ago and for the aforementioned reason I didn't really get into it. After reading your reply here I decided to give it one more try, and somehow the game starts growing on you. After discovering more and more awesome ways to pulverize opposing wildlife and bandits being alone doesn't bother me as much, reducing enemies to red gobs of shredded meat by running them over is a lot of fun, and mowing down hordes of bad guys just to find new and exciting ways to make things go BOOM becomes rewarding in itself.cainx10a said:I played the game by myself on the first play through to get a general idea of how the game world is, the quests are, as well as experiencing the boss fights, some of which were pretty amazing, or disappointing as in a certain behemoth who died before even hitting moi. But, it's still an amazing game to play by yourself.Sonicron said:Sadly I have literally no gaming friends at all, and as you predicted in this spot-on review, I couldn't get into it all on my own. It looks great, and the guns and gunplay are awesome, but being all alone in a huge open-world wasteland just doesn't work for me. A pity, really, I was looking forward to Borderlands.
And you don't have any gaming friends? Sure, a lot of people do, but that doesn't mean you can't hop in a public channel, or if you have steam, join the Borderland Personality Disorder group or the Escapist Borderlands Group, and get started on playing with people who will be your e-friends in the long run.
Don't miss that game, no matter what!
As it stands, I'm seriously contemplating Borderlands as a potential purchase.
As far as I know, yes. I mostly play in split-screen and it does take a little getting used to, but I find I hardly notice it now. The only lingering annoyance is that the menu doesn't get re-sized or restructured. It's also something you get used to pretty quickly, but I still find it jarring when I open the menu initially.happysock said:
At first I thought this was a terrible game. The unskippable intros, the claptrap that repeats his lines every 10 seconds, and the weak story and quests made me wonder why the critics thought this was such a good game.
After a few hours, I must say, it's addicting. The fights are exhilarating and the weapons are extremely diverse and thrilling.
There isn't much to it. Most of the quests aren't "kill x of y", but they largely are "collect all of x" or "kill this guy". At least there's something about having to kill enemies to get to the goal, rather than the goal being the actual killing that makes it feel less like grinding. The fact that even random enemies drop phat loot and that experience adds up quickly makes even the grind-y quests worthwhile and fulfilling.
And really, that's all there is. Like Diablo, the game is basically an excuse to kill. You kill things to get experience and guns which allow you to kill bigger things. As simple and stupid as it sounds, the killing part is so visceral and enjoyable that it doesn't really need anything else. At first the weapons seemed lame, but I quickly started getting amazing weapons, and just when I thought my weapon was overpowered, there was an even tougher enemy who dropped an even more amazing gun. I quickly became addicted to trying to find a bigger, better gun.
The game isn't without its problems. I could do without the mobs respawning as I'm leaving (especially when they respawn right next to me). Also, the characters often repeat their lines, especially the claptrap, who isn't nearly as funny as he thinks he is. In only a few hours, I also ran into several cases where scripted events didn't occur, forcing me to reload from my last checkpoint.
The cel shading thing is a gimmick if you ask me -- an excuse for critics to call it "artistic". The world doesn't seem all that unique -- it's a lot like Fallout 3. But the characters are interesting, the tongue-in-cheek attitude is fun, and none of it matters when you blast a guy's head off and leave his decapitated corpse to burn.
All in all, it's a fun game. It's not as amazing as the critics are making it out to be, but it's certainly worth playing. Despite the mediocre RPG elements, the overwhelmingly satisfying loot and visceral combat make it quite enjoyable. I hope to see more FPSs and RPGs adopt a similar procedural weapon generation system.
After a few hours, I must say, it's addicting. The fights are exhilarating and the weapons are extremely diverse and thrilling.
There isn't much to it. Most of the quests aren't "kill x of y", but they largely are "collect all of x" or "kill this guy". At least there's something about having to kill enemies to get to the goal, rather than the goal being the actual killing that makes it feel less like grinding. The fact that even random enemies drop phat loot and that experience adds up quickly makes even the grind-y quests worthwhile and fulfilling.
And really, that's all there is. Like Diablo, the game is basically an excuse to kill. You kill things to get experience and guns which allow you to kill bigger things. As simple and stupid as it sounds, the killing part is so visceral and enjoyable that it doesn't really need anything else. At first the weapons seemed lame, but I quickly started getting amazing weapons, and just when I thought my weapon was overpowered, there was an even tougher enemy who dropped an even more amazing gun. I quickly became addicted to trying to find a bigger, better gun.
The game isn't without its problems. I could do without the mobs respawning as I'm leaving (especially when they respawn right next to me). Also, the characters often repeat their lines, especially the claptrap, who isn't nearly as funny as he thinks he is. In only a few hours, I also ran into several cases where scripted events didn't occur, forcing me to reload from my last checkpoint.
The cel shading thing is a gimmick if you ask me -- an excuse for critics to call it "artistic". The world doesn't seem all that unique -- it's a lot like Fallout 3. But the characters are interesting, the tongue-in-cheek attitude is fun, and none of it matters when you blast a guy's head off and leave his decapitated corpse to burn.
All in all, it's a fun game. It's not as amazing as the critics are making it out to be, but it's certainly worth playing. Despite the mediocre RPG elements, the overwhelmingly satisfying loot and visceral combat make it quite enjoyable. I hope to see more FPSs and RPGs adopt a similar procedural weapon generation system.
Based on your current stress patterns, I calculate that you have a 94.3% chance of encountering an unfortunate death experience.
I like the concept they go for, especially the wasteland sort of feel, but it's not the wasteland I love. Not the Mad Max, everybody fights for the essentials they need to live, Borderlands is more of a comfy, we're just here for sight-seeing and alien weaponry.
Playing on the PC. so there might be differences..?..CantFaketheFunk said:
not only is it more tedious it is also harder especially when playing as a hunter.
I think I have finally figured out how to circle strafe jump kill my animal targets now. I did find that while playing, you can actually lead a boss character back to a respawn point and when you die you won't lose any of that progress you made. I haven't figured out if that is a bug or not.
I think the guys at Gearbox have made a good representation of an rpg shooter, you got your near voiceless hero from the FPS group, the tons of loot from the RPG group and the flimsy storyline from both. I also think that their choice to change the graphics to cell shading was a good choice because I would probably have dropped this game after an hour in brown and bleak landscape.
I like that in their missions that send out in the wilderness to find certain pieces of loot that their map actually tells you where to look. Later on in the game it becomes more like a general location of where the loot is, but that is so much better than combing the entire map for those pieces.
Sonicron said:Sadly I have literally no gaming friends at all, and as you predicted in this spot-on review, I couldn't get into it all on my own. It looks great, and the guns and gunplay are awesome, but being all alone in a huge open-world wasteland just doesn't work for me. A pity, really, I was looking forward to Borderlands.
We can cry together.
you know whats weird? the weapon i was holding, "combat cobra E42" or whatever, had exactly 94.3% accuracy. i assumed they were linked.Wandrecanada said:
i agreeCantFaketheFunk said:
i played it single, and thought "BL = bees knees"
then i played it split screen and i thought it was the "dogs bollocks"
then i played it XBL. and i thought, well i didnt think. i drooled. it meant i could ignore the psycho to my left, as the Siren had him, and close on the psycho in front with my "Cobra Death Murder Gun". the guy on the scaffolding turned to fire, but crumpled and fell when the Hunter behind us got Line Of Sight. we took out an equal level outpost in about 54 seconds.
However, its completely different if an ally is (even as low as) 5 levels higher or lower then you, as you would have about 50% better or worse weaponry and would either die a lot or end up carrying the weight. i got stuck on mothrakk at lvl 25, then a lvl 32 friends blew her into chunks without even losing shield. i was playing splitscreen on my campaign with a friend who was lvl 16, when i was 22, and i couldnt be bothered hiding behind him holding X anymore, so let him die. and die he did, many times
its fun with friends, but doesnt have the even feel of L4D. but at least you can consider playing single player
also i though of shurikens as soon as i saw a shotgun shoot lightning
Damn, I really wanted to get this game, but all my usual online play buddies are too engrossed with Left 4 Dead 2.
Are you on XBox live? My gamertag is miracleofsound and there are a few of us from the Escapist who are buddies there, you're welcome to join us any time, no matter what your skill level.Sonicron said:Sadly I have literally no gaming friends at all, and as you predicted in this spot-on review, I couldn't get into it all on my own. It looks great, and the guns and gunplay are awesome, but being all alone in a huge open-world wasteland just doesn't work for me. A pity, really, I was looking forward to Borderlands.
This was a really nice review, and I liked the narrator's tone of voice and eloquent speech.
It was a more subtle and honest review than the hyperbolic rants of IGN and Gamespot.